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topace: but we only pay out ~50% as dividends, with extra being reinvested
Bowjob: same as asicminer, tho smaller
Bowjob: imo best investments as a growth stock..
dub: as ThickAsThieves is saying there is no market for AM beyond a couple of pissant PTs and some forum auctions
topace: Bowjob: yes, the leveraged trading will happen on virtex, using the short fund on havelock as collateral
Bowjob: if you watched the video.. he mentioned the leverage as part of cavirtex
mircea_popescu: as unromantic as this may sound, it's true.
Bugpowder_: how people keep getting BTC given to them as loans is utterly mystifying to me.
kakobrekla: just not as convinient - for me.
kakobrekla: which might not be as convinient
jurov: and convert back only as necessary
Bowjob: "A more complex password is required. This can be done in several ways, such as joining the words of a phrase together or combining the first letters of each word.
Chaang-Noi: we have ath and killed the walls, im happy as fuck
Bowjob: ill be bored as hell though, i've been thinking of opening a food cart.
Bowjob: i made a deal with my friend, id sell him a BTC for $38 as long as he watches this anime
TomServo: I'm indecisive as hell. And I'm sick of listening to my GF bitch that I didn't buy in a $2 when she told me to.
Chaang-Noi: bugpowder is a btc millionair! i hope we all will be as lucky soopn
splnkr: i missed batch 2 by a few minutes and yet I was ready to spend 4X as much to get in on this one
Bowjob: mhm, it could be he's planning a dump as wella ctually
mircea_popescu: that'll be just as entertaining as the original.
Chaang-Noi: i almost got registered as a minster under them
mircea_popescu: as they didn't actually witness it.
smickles: next month, we witness jcpham mad as a hatter
jcpham: it's off the map as far as i'm concerned
mircea_popescu: anything as long as it's not something run by the celebrated failures.
Chaang-Noi: i started work at age 12, im sure my son will as well
mircea_popescu: as to where his college fund went.
ozonelayer: yea...i agree. however, the convention is well established. so, this kinda goes opposite of it. no big deal. i just buy 100 as many
MJR_III: fucking testament to the strength of bitcoin as an IDEA that it survives the shitty management that people throw at it
mircea_popescu: as enjoyable the indulging of it may be.
MJR_III: calculated capital reserves requirement. Bonds that were not accepted as well as the unaccepted parts of partially accepted bonds are extempt from this reduction.
MJR_III: (k)In the case where MPOE, after having paid the interest as detailed above as well as all costs and fees resulting from contracts purchases and executions will be found to have a shortfall, that shortfall will be applied to the capital of the bonds deposited that were accepted proportionally, so that each bond is reduced by the same ratio as the ratio between the shortfall and the
MJR_III: investing in a company that loses value in bitcoin (as long as its not too fast) just slows your rate of gain for now
Bugpowder: Also known as the bitcointalk forum
mircea_popescu: as far as i know you're the only person with a positive experience with them.
MJR_III: well that theory was busted for me...i guess their book is pretty accurate, as far as they actually have funds behind orders
MJR_III: as you'll see...i told him if market was efficient it'd be broken
mircea_popescu: but they can't publish that as it'd tell a real sad story.
MJR_III: in some ways it makes more sense to think of SDICE as a private equity stake
mircea_popescu: course corps like s.dice have no choice in the matter, as there's no practical way to deploy.
mircea_popescu: so in a very macro sense you are better off as a portofolio investor with the "have to sell ot realise" paradigm, as inconvenient as it is
mircea_popescu: the fact that stocks work as bonds (ie, they issue dividends)
MJR_III: it tends to repeat itself as tiberiusiv keeps circling back to his old flawed points
mircea_popescu: smickles my npd goes as such : yest told waitress she has a beautiful smile and it's a pleasure to talk to her which made her smile compulsively like an idiot every time she saw me and then gave her a nice tip. today cooked pasta and had jasmine tea (4 cups). so you tell me.
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jurov: and for puts it uses same formula as mkopt
jurov: my calculation was as per the faq, but there's some padding.
mjr_: its a function of the difficulty as of the last futures contract known
ThickAsThieves: i thought i had seen his name as trustworthy, but was unaware coinbase was for sale
mjr_: as evoorhees is the only manager
jurov: http://bitbet.us/bet/113/bitbet-will-we-worth-more-than-satoshi-dice/ can be conveived as a proxy bet, too
mjr_: my point is...promise to pay is not the same as coins in the bank...no one would say that it is
smickles: ok, who would you accept as an escrow?
smickles: who would you accept as an escrow?
smickles: and would you accept nanotube as escrow?
smickles: i wasn't at the keyboard the whole time, so i might have missed tiberiusiv's reasoning as to why SD is gambling or gambling in the order that it needs to be regulated
Namworld: He doesn't appear as a troll...
smickles: so if voorhees is jailed, and the service keeps running as if nothing happened, you think the price would drop for any significant lenght of time?
Namworld: In Canada, you're taxed on 50% of your gains. Not 100%. But you can get as much as 43% tax on that 50% if you're in the top income bracket. So as high as 21.5% on gains... hmm, interesting.
smickles: even assuming SD qualifies as a casion
smickles: and also, the market is fickel, ;you can't use that as evidence to their legality
tiberiusiv: as i said, the market shares my opinion of higher then normal risk with sdice shares.
tiberiusiv: poker night is allowed as long as its not a regular occurance
mjr_: lol: the "major player" herein referred to as the party of the first
jurov: and that's equally as bas as unregulated gambling
smickles: easy as pie
mjr_: as is weed
mjr_: <tiberiusiv> as long as satoshidice managers are openly operating an illegal casino while having a cashin service in the United states, and a presence in the united states satoshidice is not cheap
mjr_: tiberiusiv: since as i've said...their won't be anybody in the US
tiberiusiv: as long as satoshidice managers are openly operating an illegal casino while having a cashin service in the United states, and a presence in the united states satoshidice is not cheap
mjr_: tiberiusiv: or new product lines which are as yet unknown
smickles: tiberiusiv: you mean gambling, right? from what i've read, the lawyers over there see playing satoshi dice with bitcoin as a game, not gambling
tiberiusiv: smickles: BTC can be defined as equivalent to casino chips.
tiberiusiv: because as far as US authorities are concerned, he is selling casino chips
tiberiusiv: voorhees should have never been a memeber of the cash in service as well
tiberiusiv: hes a member of bitinstant as well
mjr_: satoshi dice "we will pay 100% of profit as dividends"
tiberiusiv: nobody else cashes out as fast as they do so far in north america
ThickAsThieves: i'll skip to you telling me how there's not as much risk as one might think
mjr_: only a few military grade trucks could outperform you...and they wouldn't look as cool :)
mircea_popescu: as long as their trade grows from 1k to 5k to 8k it all seems top notch and scaling well.
ThickAsThieves: abstractly speaking i've considered in the past that as a species we should spend some effort figuring out ways to make society more adaptable to paradigm shifts
mircea_popescu: i was just offering it as a backstop
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i imagine it will become quite a revenue stream as things develop
mircea_popescu: in a sense i suppose as a new guy it's just as good an assumption as any other.
ThickAsThieves: you could arb if you owned shares in each location, or if you bought on mpex and trasferred (in some bulk, minimums depends on who youre dealing with, as do fees)
tiberiusiv: as i stated numerous times
tiberiusiv: BTC should only be used as a savings vehicle, and purchasing equities in viable BTC business's(which are rare)
tiberiusiv: so youve introduced exchange rate fees as well
jurov: such as credit card taxes and regulatory bs in many areas
tiberiusiv: thats why there is so many scammers, most borrowers are short selling BTC and posting nothing as collateral
tiberiusiv: as i said, we are at 0.001% of total users?
tiberiusiv: as i said, speculation/gambling
ThickAsThieves: they are the most popular as well I think
ThickAsThieves: the events of the week can probably amplify or dampen that effect as well
Bugpowder: and the partially funded one shows up as 92.39 BTC instead of 100 BTC
Bugpowder: but they are still listed on my own page as existing but unfunded.
splnkr: as far as the current dip i'd point to this http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324373204578374611351125202.html
chmod755: and they're almost as old as mtgox
chmod755: as an example