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BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Seems like a better alternatives to the peppers, Prolly spec any actual offers though to use horse radish rather than ginger for the thick root
ozbot: Erik Voorhees on Bloomberg TV : Bitcoin
thestringpuller: so just listen to the people who know what they are talkinga bout, don't play into the huxley mentality
thestringpuller: but then you disregard both teh media and what the government states
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: There are also offers for them to try gingering for the buttcoins https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gingering
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller yes but in typical commie style, the evil empire is trying to turn things around
thestringpuller: you even WARNED people not to leave money in MtGox
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: you already predicted the collapse of MtGox for those very reasons
mircea_popescu: the us government, it's agents and assigns are cordially invited to go suck an onion.
mircea_popescu: because such attacks are difficult for ordinary people understand. I have trouble understanding your proposal - ordinary users will be easily bamboozled by a government sponsored security update. Further, when the crisis hits, to disagree with the line, to doubt that the regulators are right, and the problem is the evil speculators, becomes political suicide, as it did in America in 2007, sometimes physical suicide, a
thestringpuller: The Federal Reserve act was the best thing that ever happened to the US
mircea_popescu: r, more serious, and more disastrous, as with the most recent one. Each attack is hugely successful, and after the cataclysm that the attack causes the attackers are hailed as saviors of the poor, the oppressed, and the nation generally, and the blame for the the bad consequences is dumped elsewhere, usually on Jews, greedy bankers, speculators, etc, because such attacks ar
mircea_popescu: The big and easy government attacks on money target a single central money issuer, as with the first of the modern political attacks, the French Assignat of 1792, but in the late nineteenth century political attacks on financial networks began, as for example the Federal reserve act of 1913, the goal always being to wind up the network into a single too big to fail entity, and they have been getting progressively bigge
mircea_popescu: y find easy money too seductive, and S. 190 goes down in flames before a horde of political activists chanting that easy money is sound, and opposing it is racist, nazi, ignorant, and generally hateful, the recent S. 190 debate on limiting portfolios (bond issue supporting dud mortgages) by government sponsored enterprises being a perfect reprise of the debates on limiting the issue of new assignats in the 1790s.
mircea_popescu: Then knowledgeable people complain that the evil financial network is heading for disaster, that the government sponsored enterprises are about to cause a “collapse of the total financial system”, as Wallison and Alan Greenspan complained in 2005, the government debates shrinking the evil government sponsored enterprises, as with “S. 190 [109th]: Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005″ but the
mircea_popescu: Government sponsored enterprises enter the business, in due course bad behavior is made mandatory, and the evil financial network is bigger than the honest financial network, with the result that even though everyone knows what is happening, people continue to use the paper issued by the evil financial network, because of network effects - the big, main issuers, are the issuers you use if you want to do business.
ozbot: Digging through archives yields gold pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: egitimate, law abiding industry partners to row the boat into law abiding waters.”
mircea_popescu: “As any industry matures it will face growing pains and there will be individuals who believe they can use the fog of uncertainty to cover up their follies. When it comes to policy, it is the responsibility of the federal government to steer the boat, not row the boat. Our Committee will continue to work closely with relevant U.S. government entities to steer the boat away from nefarious actors - and it’s up to l
mircea_popescu: “My staff is working closely with relevant federal agencies to determine what lessons can be learned from this failure to help ensure this does not happen here in the United States.
mircea_popescu: anyway, let's compare and contrast for the permanent record : ☟︎
ThickAsThieves: the art of the hyphen is so lost
KRS-One: think poor black kids care to use English properly? Hell no honky.
mircea_popescu: anyway teh cheek on this asshat.
ThickAsThieves: well the gov is in a perpetual state of release
BingoBoingo: cads: It is da rather than dat
cads: I believe that's, "release dat following statement"*
mircea_popescu: make english more accessible to poor black kids.
mircea_popescu: for your protection, obama govt abolishes the s on verbs.
mircea_popescu: " Today, Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee Chairman Tom Carper (D-Del.) release the following statement"
BingoBoingo: ThickAsThieves: Nah, I just want some IT drone to throw him some Trilema showing that Bitcoin regulated Gox out of existence using only death by exile as a regulatory tool
cads: I guess I should look into empirical studies to see how applicable it should be considered for options
ThickAsThieves: <BingoBoingo> http://www.hsgac.senate.gov/media/majority-media/chairman-carpers-statement-on-insolvency-of-major-bitcoin-exchange <<< now i just want gox to come back and say ha! we're solvent idjits
BingoBoingo: Woe unto the poor bastard who sold those Puts to the bot.
mircea_popescu: cads prolly this is better than #math
thestringpuller: so at what point does the bot start quoting?
mircea_popescu: i guess it's time for teh halting problem
BingoBoingo: Goxlast is going to be 135 forever it seems. Prolly prudent to quote USD/BTC as a percent of Gox last nao.
dexX7: it's frozen for more than 12 or so hours
mircea_popescu: so how's the turing point coming along
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 523.68, Best ask: 524.7, Bid-ask spread: 1.02000, Last trade: 523.68, 24 hour volume: 112246.41622198, 24 hour low: 400.0, 24 hour high: 552.06, 24 hour vwap: 480.668707869
benkay: heh i got that from you, mircea_popescu
BingoBoingo: MtGox has barely moved S.MPOE I guess it was much less important than either OpenBSD Charlie Shrem's bong
benkay: the best way to keep people who shouldn't be playing with dangerous financial instruments from doing so is to just disallow them from it. this is the MPEx model.
twizt: they are just pissed they couldnt use tax payer funds to bailout gox lol
twizt: and the banking system is any better
dub: real world gox news feedback thus far "so this is a good time to get in right?
mike_c: ;;later tell nubbins` ping me for eulorum nameservers
ozbot: "I have read your website and it is obviously that your a foggot."
gribble: Grave concerns re MtGox pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/2013/grave-concerns-re-mtgox/>; GPG contracts pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/gpg-contracts>; Full Hacker News: <http://www.fullhn.com/>
thestringpuller: ;;google site: trilema.com mtgox fractional reserve
thestringpuller: ;;google site: trileme mtgox fractional reserve
jurov: and the situation will be very closely monitored, don't forget!
ThickAsThieves: Lawsky says gox closing is a good thing, etc
ozbot: Mt.Gox: Decision was made to close transactions for the time being
Urushiol: people putting funds in securities for the expected decline?
davout: just ftr that was jed, not karpy
TomServo: Isn't that Jed?
nubbins`: wonder will they fix their implementation of clang next ;p
ozbot: Apple issues fix for major security flaw on OS X | The Verge
cads: but when it comes to what actually creates the knowledge of the history, we have a brownian motion.
cads: What gets me is that the other assumptions, like no arbitrage or market friction. seem reasonable and we might expect to weaken the assumptions later.
cads: so I guess this leads to efforts to quantify and estimate the actual brownian "volatility" in a given stock, given past observations.
cads: but one of the basic assumptions of the black scholes options valuation model is that the stocks are geometric brownian motions.
cads: I'm looking at the definition of geometric brownian motion as the sum of a normal brownian motion and a drift function, and I'm having a hard time believing it actually lets us model real world stocks.
cads: I have a question about the basic black scholes model
cads: hey what's a better channel than #math to talk about quantitative stuff?
pankkake: also, the java flaw, for months
pankkake: apple left the "get your phone rooted by a pdf" bug open for a month, so, nothing new
moiety: they have even taken the office plants i hear
BingoBoingo: MagicalTux has gone to the Moon where he hides in exile with the Doge creators, Trendon Shavers, and Usagi
BingoBoingo: Proposal, since Gox last will now always be 135, Instead of Quoting BTC/USD in terms of dollars, it should hence forth be quoted as a percentage of Gox last.
moiety: :) lol and nope the world is not less crazy today benkay!
benkay: is the world less insane today, boys?
mike_c: 2 errors! of course, the last two are always the worst.
nubbins`: [14:14:05] <nubbins`> had some issues with the Breakpad stuff so ended up commenting it all out for now
nubbins`: [14:13:29] <nubbins`> down to only two errors when executing jam on osx, related to duplicate symbols in libfparser
nubbins`: people knew it was a bad idea but they put their coins there anyway
moiety: nubbins`: i think they have died from laughing at gox
ozbot: The Evolution of Protest: The Bay Area Has Been Shaped by Dissent, But No One Can Stand in the Way o
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.30274502 BTC to 2`866 shares, 80347 satoshi per share
ThickAsThieves: "but it was once nearly as important a port as Savannah[according to whom?]"
deadweasel: I would liek this on my plates: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Come_and_take_it
ThickAsThieves: educating the populace is a thankless, stress-inducing task
thestringpuller: as an experiment to see if he can educate the local populace
thestringpuller: oh ThickAsThieves my friend started a Bitcoin business in Tifton
ThickAsThieves: “We believe that everyone has the right to preserve their heritage”
ozbot: A brief history of the DOW jones - YouTube
pigeons: its an exaggeration on the supposed oppression of skateboarding
thestringpuller: i didn't know about the beastie boys until 2002
thestringpuller: oh I'm too young to get the reference then
pigeons: not should. its a saying from the 80s
thestringpuller: Wu-Tang has better financial services than Gox :P
pigeons: use a skate go to prison
thestringpuller: because they don't skateboard
dexX7: and today again on bloomberg: http://www.businessweek.com/videos/2014-02-25/can-mt-dot-gox-failure-be-a-positive-for-bitcoin
dexX7: speaking of us bitcoin business. i'm somehow impressed about circle. came out of nothing, did nothing till now, but allaire participated as witness at the senate hearing, they joined the circle against gox etc..
ThickAsThieves: i thought campbx got banxed
dexX7: coinlab? they are still promoting the mining failure on their website
dexX7: KRS-One: is this personalized? i don't even see a picture.. only text links somewhere inbetween.. "More woe for Bitcoin exchange Mt.Gox" + "U.S.-based Bitcoin exchange coming"