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mircea_popescu: but yes, very much that's the problem, "threat of depersonalization", specifically as "what do you mean republic laughs at me and my http://trilema.com/2013/the-danger-of-homebrew-crypto/ "
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the name sounds familiar, but i think the bulk of him happened before asciilifeform tuned in
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i dunno if you recall this naphex character. possibly the best illustration of the concept republic's to date known (though he was doing iirc webcams or exchangesd or somesuch, not directly casinos. but -- just as marginal a cvasi-business)
asciilifeform: iirc mircea_popescu had a piece where 'usg.college victim, thoroughly hollowed out, incapable of discussing subj , because he perceives that he ~is college~' or how did it go
BingoBoingo: http://pizarroisp.net/pizarro-hosting-rate-sheet/ << First run at the prose
asciilifeform: the 'TW' , 'educated' by decade of reddit and hn, is usually incapable of even considering 'tor is honeypot', it threatens 'depersonalization', sorta like pushing the hanging stool out from under feet. iirc naggum described this psychopathology at length. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform exactly so, concordance seeker seeks concordance. "don't tell me about disparate objects, let's compare pairs that are well matched, item-description-and-review"
mircea_popescu: because he can't rely on others, see ? the IM judges "well, there's concordance between the marketing copy on this webpage and what my TW is telling me" and the TW judges "well, nobod ycan be trusted anyway, here's my caesar cipher -- at least it is my own"
asciilifeform: typical exchange with these goes like, 'trng, what's that. tell me instead how is your tor onion hosting'
mircea_popescu: and the TW is very vulnerable in that a lifetime spent in his own coffin swimming in the liners has produced in him this ability to self-bless. so he's going to do "some secret trick" and that'll make it all good.
mircea_popescu: well, yes. in the exact sense "nobody got shot for buying ibm" : as far as IM is concerned, the marketing copy suffices, he doesn't understand the workings anyway and moreover is well inhabituated to not expect to understand.
asciilifeform: i'd go as far as to say that the principal enemy is the pseudorepublic, the gapons.
asciilifeform: both types suffer from the sort of brain damage where they're readily taken in by pseudorepublic, where 'bulletproof hosting' served up on cisco and advertised with rounded corners www on rails etc
mircea_popescu: as a result the former perceive the need but don't know how to proceed and the latter antiperceive the need and well, the blind leading the thirsty results in many salty snacks.
mircea_popescu: the latter are a deeply asocial sort, utterly incapable of very basic tasks such as "exist in the world without a farcical self-secreted notion that you know what's going on".
mircea_popescu: the former are a deeply atechnical sort, utterly incapable of very basic tasks such as "compare these two items".
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the way that sort of thing works (it's "business" in a very limited and marginal sense) there's two kinds of marginals involved : "idea men" and "technical wizards".
asciilifeform: ( then again iirc there was a mircea_popescu thread where explained that these dun use trng at all, as matter of principle )
mircea_popescu: republic in being. very much the same mechanism as in "you don't need a buncha paperwork for pizarro, the forum can resolve disputes for you anyway"
asciilifeform: i admit that i was slightly surprised that there wasn't at least 1 casino etc d00d immediately banging on the door, of the only (afaik) isp that offers trng
mircea_popescu: moreover, there's nothing wrong with incomplete lists -- let the fellow come and ask, "oh, but what about Y! GOTCHA" only to not gotcha and therefore...
mircea_popescu: yes, but it's a decreasing scale of importance. every enumeration gotta stop sometime, and imo if one's not sold by those items adding more isn't the way to go.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: can you think of anything that oughta be in there, that aint mentioned above ?
mircea_popescu: imo this should be written out in prose.
asciilifeform: sanity is a very concrete thing.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo, mod6 : imho we oughta add a 'we do not use bmc's' statement to the pizarro www .
a111: Logged on 2018-09-10 15:30 mircea_popescu: "why are you reading that crap ?" "because i wish to know how the news relates to me. spoiler : it doesn't." is verbatim contained in the slavic word's meaning.
mircea_popescu: in being truth-which-is-self-evidently-true-and-not-open-to-doubt-on-any-possible-grounds, it then necessariyl is exactly http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-10#1849101 "truth". ☝︎
mircea_popescu: this is EXACTLY what pravda even is. it's not "truth" sole and alone like that. it's also "proofed" and "proved" and "certified" and so forth.
mircea_popescu: "why are you reading that crap ?" "because i wish to know how the news relates to me. spoiler : it doesn't." is verbatim contained in the slavic word's meaning. ☟︎
asciilifeform: ( how did mircea_popescu formulate it earlier, 'if yer this stupid, a usg will coalesce out of the vacuum for you' )
mircea_popescu: amusingly, the word itself quite well connotes this.
mircea_popescu: so no, it's not that "apple this" and "microsoft that" and "war on web" bla bla bla. if you permit internet access to inflate, you end up with a bulk of morons who STILL have no business on the web, once theyr'e there, just like they had no business on it before they were there.
mircea_popescu: in short : i am saying that "the problems" that naive holdouts from the 80s and 90s perceive confront "the open web" are chiefly in their imagination. the truth of the matter is that the same sort of scum that creaded the 1950s pravda in the first place are simply re-implementing it out of "web" nowadays.
mircea_popescu: but i seriously do not see the need for a "web" to support this nonsense. they'd be much better served by a single pravda. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: eir opinion" to the "interviewer" evidently taxes the system, there's no substance there so it's just as well that there's no substance demanded downstream.
mircea_popescu: this evidently works well enough for the "what does the news mean to me" crowd, seeing how the vapid "celebrities" that can't fucking spell (lulzy case in mp household recently, as girl tried to bring testimony of uma thurman re her being mistreated, only to see her charge collapse under heavy laugther at how WOMAN CAN NOT SPELL) have ~nothing to say anyway. getting a bunch of soccer players to dress up in suits and speak "th
asciilifeform: they could learn civilized langs, and climb down from trees. theoretically.
mircea_popescu: "William, Prince of Albania explained What is William, Prince of Albania? Explaining what we could find out about William, Prince of Albania. [Search domain everything.explained.today] everything.explained.today/William_of_Wied/" << check out this gem. "what they could find". guess how the could works.
mircea_popescu: wtf, why even have a "web" then.
mircea_popescu: but i mean, seriously, this particular fragment repeated verbatim dozens of times AND NOTHING ELSE ?
asciilifeform: this is unremarkable, cargo cults ~always turn up with copies, there's never enuff actual fuselage frags to go around
mircea_popescu: truly this is a waste. turn off the web, it's weasting electricity bitcoin could put to better use.
mircea_popescu: we're approximately in the position where across the land there's museums dedicated to maintaining COPIES of original pieces of airplane fuselage fallen on the island.
mircea_popescu: why the fuck does the electricity need to be burned so the SAME EXACT fragment of cargo cult is repeated 50 times ?
mircea_popescu: BUT! the internet consists of a vast plurality of... EXACT COPIES.
mircea_popescu: the phrase originates from a nephew of the romanian king, temporarily mbret of albania. he left during ww1, cuz actual people were doing things, exactly like a 19yo would leave the 14yos he was playing with when the cheerleaders show up.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in "other successes of the failed female state", let's look at https://duckduckgo.com/?q="he+deemed+it+necessary+to+absent+himself+temporarily."
mircea_popescu: oh three layers!!
a111: Logged on 2018-06-19 16:29 asciilifeform: His personal computer, federal prosecutors alleged, held more than 10,000 images and videos of such material, protected under three layers of passwords.'
a111: Logged on 2018-09-05 17:40 asciilifeform: if 'digital evidence'(tm)(r) supposedly 'found' on some zek's hdd can be 'evidence', why not this.
asciilifeform: as if it had any substance to begin with
a111: Logged on 2018-09-10 14:54 mircea_popescu: "we found that the BMC code responsible for processing and applying firmware updates does not perform cryptographic signature verification on the provided firmware image before accepting the update and committing it to non-volatile storage."
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-10#1849057 << note that if you plug the thing into net, anybody can push 'update' into it etc ☝︎
mircea_popescu: it so totally pays to be one of these usgistani "investigative journalists"...
mircea_popescu: oh, and in "comunismu-ntii te-ajuta, tac tac tac, si apoi te executa pac pac pac" lulz : let's open our hymn books at the roger casement page. first knighted for "exposing" "atrocities" in usg's enemies at the time (boers and whatnot), was then hanged (and declared a faggot) for proposing the germans help liberate his homeland from usg in ww1.
mircea_popescu: "i have no money, no job, and Bernie has been the biggest political influence in my life"
mircea_popescu: they just wanted to.
mircea_popescu: "we found that the BMC code responsible for processing and applying firmware updates does not perform cryptographic signature verification on the provided firmware image before accepting the update and committing it to non-volatile storage." ☟︎
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/09/usg-talks-georgia-into-abducting-and-extraditing-russian-man-to-manhattan/ << Qntra - USG Talks Georgia Into Abducting And Extraditing Russian Man To Manhattan
esthlos: mircea_popescu: thank you
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the usg machinery is not powered by sense. if you didn't know you wanted to move to miami, hereby you find out. if you're not the sort who finds this out thusly, terrorist.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> i suppose my wut is spurious ; while it's true i can eat it about as much as salt, nevertheless salt ALSO comes in kg boxes. << It doesn't really come in much smaller packages. They go UP from here.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the most eyepopping nonsense was where timis was covered in 'win a flat in bucharest' ad crapolade
asciilifeform: ever since the flood
asciilifeform: (today there's an inner core of printolade-purchased glass boxes, outside of it - 1890s construction, some of it still with faded e.g. 'fine imported furst' stencil print on the smog-coloured walls )
mircea_popescu: and today's new york looks like 1998 chicago, and so going.
asciilifeform: bucharest has maybe 6 blox that look like euro civ. the rest -- bananistan
asciilifeform: i think they're using the same trains
asciilifeform: in related lulz, bu subway is almost exact copy of chicago's, at least in re the degree of rust and grime
asciilifeform found a decent turkish place in bu., was in outskirts, behind a playground where trees grew through the slide
asciilifeform: what was this
mircea_popescu: trades so much on the latin underneath, i give you 0% chances!
asciilifeform: ( and i walked no more than 30km of bucharest )
a111: Logged on 2018-08-31 00:18 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-30#1845938 << this supposed untranslatability of ro, is illusory imho, translates just fine to ru and prolly other civilized tongues
asciilifeform: lotsa equally rusted/dusted monuments to 'shot during uprising', ads for german kindergartens, miscellaneous parts of ??? rusting on the ground (where are the metallists!?) , etc
asciilifeform: standing right next to ordinary-looking (presumably)working ones
asciilifeform: and also the other great marvel, the 1980s-looking autos, standing 'parked' near boarded-up (yes) city park, on blocks, solid block of rust
asciilifeform: nah, actually saw this scene
mircea_popescu: if only. that sounds rather serbian, much better.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: when i think 'inhabitants of current bucharest', immediately think of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-29#1730399 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: unrelatedly, i rewatched http://trilema.com/2011/aurora/#selection-49.276-53.70 and the original comment very much stands. anyoen want to know why "romanians" (esp in the sense of "lives in bucharest cca 2010") should've been fucking shot...
asciilifeform: i could eat whole can ( but wouldn't , these days )
mircea_popescu: i suppose my wut is spurious ; while it's true i can eat it about as much as salt, nevertheless salt ALSO comes in kg boxes.
asciilifeform: asciilifeform prefers the ru-exported one, costs ~1.5x , sold in the same spots where sprats
mircea_popescu: usg is "how to go through the motions of doing things withouy doing anything" and usg "opposition" is "how to go through the motions of opposing usg, without fucking anything up for them". they're not all that substantially different.
asciilifeform has yet to meet a us.muppet who knew of priest gapon
asciilifeform: so fully expect 'donations' to all go to google or whoever's in charge of sed s/terroristbtcaddr/reichsbtcbank packet-diddlage these days
asciilifeform: 'Bitcoin has become the preferred payment method for Stormfront, the oldest and largest white supremacist...' << ~they~ dun have pubkey either, last i saw
mircea_popescu: in fact, there's no serious reason to suspect pantsuited clowns of any peculiar relationship to reality.
asciilifeform: to this day no 'isis' pubkey , for instance.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: fuckknows, could be based in some fact, somewhere, cousinfuckers afaik are genuinely this stupid
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: That's the testimony, does not appear to be the reality
mircea_popescu: good thing they stopped climate change.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Terminal disconnect from reality
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo ahahaha what the fuck, these morons.
asciilifeform: just when 'hard to think of anyffing dumber than goxcoins', this
a111: Logged on 2018-09-09 20:16 deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/09/us-congressional-expert-witness-testimony-bitcoin-being-solicited-over-postal-service/ << Qntra - US Congressional Expert Witness Testimony: Bitcoin Being Solicited Over Postal Service
a111: Logged on 2018-09-09 20:07 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this cleverness leads to "implemented solar panel out of wooden stick"
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/09/us-congressional-expert-witness-testimony-bitcoin-being-solicited-over-postal-service/ << Qntra - US Congressional Expert Witness Testimony: Bitcoin Being Solicited Over Postal Service ☟︎