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ben_vulpes: mats: send me a cram?
ben_vulpes: fireworks are just marvelous for a fourteen month old's sleep ☟︎
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Error: "Congrats" is not a valid command.
mats: a day long shit show of people getting wasted and stumbling around causing trouble
BingoBoingo: But for srs, this is a very azn way of handling people
mats: parliamentarians appear to be trying to push it through despite some polling indicating a 1:1 split in public opinion
mats: in much less interesting news, tw is in a tizzy over a draft law regarding same-sex marriage
BingoBoingo: http://trilema.com/2016/disgrace-lucy-returns/ << "If he had a a gun he would probably be dead now"
trinque: it is the empty set that explodes in circles in my mind, not that I deny that it must be named first. that the definition of all things has void as a dependency induces virtigo when looking out at the world.
mircea_popescu: when you first expand your sex life to include a woman, you vividly remember her, and everyhing, minute detail. and once it further expands to include two, still. and three, and slightly dimmer four. by six its growing steadily dimmer, and maybe by the 7th is the first time you start losing track of them.
trinque: no, and I perceive that proceeding further will require more than a casual understanding of mathematics.
mircea_popescu: and on the other hand, "the number four told me to headbutt a door!". really, it did ? i suppose, perhaps, if the number four is followed by a double-sifr and occurs on your blood test result sheet right where the locals wrote "glucemia" it may be said "the number four told me to stop eating icecream", but it is rather forcing the point.
mircea_popescu: and in this perspective, arguments as to the existence of gods become truly amusing. even in a world in which, through some strange workings of happenstance, no set of four items did in fact exist, nor ever had, and supposedly never will... there's also no number 4 ?
mircea_popescu: apollo the symbol strives to mark down the discovery of apollo the god, much like ٤ stives to mark down the number 4. you wouldn't know it to look at the poor thing, but it is what the ~actual~ arabic numeral for a set of four items looks like.
asciilifeform: it was a perlism and i won't miss it.
mircea_popescu: "i gotta borrow trinque for a minute. i scrubbed the expiry off my pgp key, which of course makes a new pubkey even if it is the same modulus as before" not "i gotta borrow trinque for a minute. i have a refreshed (nonexpir) pubkey as of 5 min ago"
mircea_popescu: now do me a favour and also deliver the habit of sorting what you say in order of node importance!
mircea_popescu: i read 2 lines out of 3 before throwing a fit.
mircea_popescu: "but they're both written down with letters". so what if they are. if i shoot an hour of a woman fucking half a dozen men, thereby i've constructed a woman ?
trinque: I'm saying a man creates "apollo" the symbol as an act of will
asciilifeform: i gotta borrow trinque for a minute. i have a refreshed (nonexpir) pubkey as of 5 min ago
mircea_popescu: you don't make a very good teacher, even as you're a fine engineer!
a111: Logged on 2016-12-31 06:54 davout: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-31#1594446 <<< i'm confused, isn't the 8-ball a set of factors that you multiplied into the running product, and for which 're-running' makes little sense, as being already present in the global factors product?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-31#1594814 << bernstein's algo does not use a running global product. see his 'finding the smooth parts of integers'. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: to be a god they must have purpose without purpose ; both observably and demonstrably the Central Committee (which is what this is) do not.
mircea_popescu: i would say it is improper, because the fundamental quality of a god is that it's not constructible, much like no woman ever came in the shape of a lego set, be the parts delivered together or scattered in the landscape. conversely if you prefer, it is not proper because gods contain the metaphysical equivalent of a teleological dimension.
trinque: but then I don't know enough about that end of things to know whether the ideology actually flowed from a particular fountain
trinque: mircea_popescu: I've wondered whether it is apt to call these human aggregates gods, in that the term was a passable label for distributed-world-model running among nodes of a wot
asciilifeform: (dupes ~mods~ in table. which should not be a thing.)
mircea_popescu: what rms thought, in his amusing naivite, to be defending hadn't in fact existed for a decade by the point news of it reached him. fruhlingserwachen, the steiner offensive.
mircea_popescu: and it is a hope based on something, right or wrong. "is russia more complex than gcc ?"
mircea_popescu: "it could buy russia" does not mean - it could. it means - if anyone on our side has a prayer - them.
mircea_popescu: this apple, nsa, whatever, nobody gives a shit, but this "apple" is the empire's last hope, half-Alphabet-half-AAPL-half-contractors whatever it is. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: not as productively, yes, not for the end user, at any rate, but there never was a rule that intelligence be benevolent.
mircea_popescu: the "apple software ecosystem", while on a level dysfunctional as ben_vulpes oft informs us, is on another edge intricately designed.
mircea_popescu: which is NOT a random string, nor the result of a markov process, run on dry sand or wet protein.
asciilifeform: i dun see this as a necessary hypothesis. i dare say that if i had to write a c compiler, it would end up looking somewhat more like llvm than gcc.
mircea_popescu: and then thought abvout it, and then came up with a model for a world which includes gcc, and then ran simulations of that world and evaluated which moves best serve a specified interest.
asciilifeform: phf: 'impoverished' os is a plus from this pov
mircea_popescu: someone, or for the sake of rigor, "someone", a tom knight equivalent, sat down and read all of gcc, slowly, loaded it in head. i do not mean, "one version". i mean ALL of gcc, like i know words in the sense of who is their mother and their father and the fine degree derivatives in all trees in ten languages. all of gcc.
phf: windows for a longest time had a very stable abi, as per "you can run windows 95 programs still!1", where's i suspect mac os x probably doesn't. it's the same problem on openbsd, sure you can static link, but you will have to recompile after the next release.
mircea_popescu: llvm is, from a gnoseologic point of view, a superset of gcc, the upper node.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform to say it again : llvm is not "a competitor" for gcc. llvm was written quite exactly with full knowledge of gcc in mind. you know they fully understand how gcc works, and i don't mean on the first order, but on the last, BECAUSE of little signs like these.
mircea_popescu: this being the difference between a technology company like apple and a media company like yahoo, aka microsoft : the former actually fit gcc / their erstwhile competition in head. the latter just blather on in the hopes the holy paper clip will help with the printing press.
asciilifeform: notably the machine from this example is a mac with 100%-working gnat (on gcc 4.xx)
asciilifeform: aha, i recall, phf had a mac experiment
phf: we briefly exploerd this fun fact back when static linking became a thing (with bitcoind)
mircea_popescu: sure. they know how to do it ; llvm is not "a competitor" for gcc, the notion that someone could "hold out" is nonsense. llvm was written quite exactly with full knowledge of gcc in mind.
asciilifeform: grade a+++++ monkeyware
a111: Logged on 2016-12-31 04:50 asciilifeform: 'The ability to limit concurrent coredumps allows dumping core to be safely enabled in these situations without affecting responsiveness of the system as a whole. I have several servers running with this patch applied (actually backported to v2.6.26) and it has allowed me to deal successfully with the situation described above.'
Framedragger: probably a useful piece of code to have anyway; actual tests for proper maintenance. :)
davout: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-31#1594446 <<< i'm confused, isn't the 8-ball a set of factors that you multiplied into the running product, and for which 're-running' makes little sense, as being already present in the global factors product? ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2016-12-30 22:18 asciilifeform: historically accurate to the point of wtf -- even radio controls (what good are they in a sim?) are there.
davout: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-30#1594228 <<< protip for asciilifeform, if it actually gets off the ground, it's not a sim!11 ☝︎
asciilifeform: this is the last time i permit a linux kernel to be used on my watch that i did not with own hands build.
asciilifeform: 'The ability to limit concurrent coredumps allows dumping core to be safely enabled in these situations without affecting responsiveness of the system as a whole. I have several servers running with this patch applied (actually backported to v2.6.26) and it has allowed me to deal successfully with the situation described above.' ☟︎
asciilifeform: to complicate matters, there were a handful of jokers who made prime moduli.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform a modulus is by definition not prime.
asciilifeform: does a modulus count as 'has factor' if gcd(it, another) == it ?
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/34F88784CBE3A1C9FE5FC15F8FF3E193F70A1E08FE7611EC5614D071F848BBAD << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1575...4727 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '213.164.4.178 (ssh-rsa key from 213.164.4.178 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (mail.a-trust.at. AT 9)
asciilifeform: and a total of 3 since dec. 15.
asciilifeform: patience, folx. i have a potentially catastrophic wtfomf111 here.
trinque: lel, it's been a busy day!
asciilifeform: i was not, evidently, a tard. not of this type at any rate.
asciilifeform: interestingly i found several instances in log where werker crashed with a div0. and then went, by hand, to verify if i am a tard and permitted a crafted key containing 0 as modulus to be submitted. but no dice.
mircea_popescu: at least i banned a bunch of people for join/part spamming the logs today
asciilifeform: i have a suspicion re what.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'ma take home a copy of the db, and find out.
asciilifeform: but it is a pretty obvious thing.
mircea_popescu: so you did nothing, the 8ball didn't do it, and it's not a rank repeat.
asciilifeform: nao eventually i'ma make a veeeery speshul 8ball
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes a space in the set of integers where nsa parked its special, "secretly" nonprime eggs.
asciilifeform: (i'ma handle this case by putting the brakes on marking 'phuctored' anything for which a factor that isn't 1 < f < mod is known
asciilifeform: (this is a bug! as in, a case i never properly handled! when entire modulus is also a factor of another. i will have to filter these)
asciilifeform: for one thing, not a single key fell into the user funnel today.
asciilifeform: 'db resent' is not a thing that happens.
trinque: having a read db separate from workhorse db is pretty normal.
asciilifeform: DB DUMP IS THREE MINUTES OF A DAY
trinque: if you are already loading whole db, dumping whole db, repeat, could fart the thing into a second display database somewhere in there.
asciilifeform: trinque: i don't have a cluster to 'replicate' this onto.
trinque: but not much of a recommendation can be made blind, anyway
trinque: probably would involve replication to a db not doing the phuctoring
ben_vulpes: imma leave phuctor to stuff the log, kid is awake and i'm going to squeeze a skosh more dopamine out of the evening
ben_vulpes: look put a proper promotional video together you'd be happy to see in public
ben_vulpes: gabriel_laddel_p: i saw a few names and project details, figured they were placeholder content
asciilifeform: but it does mean that nobody else gets to read, for a spell.
gabriel_laddel_p: ben_vulpes: it is 14 min long, go, watch the whole thing, think about it for a bit and get back to me.
gabriel_laddel_p: asciilifeform: because I've already had a legion of idiots (#clim) show up when I show off masamune in public.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-31 02:23 mircea_popescu: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/1E261FCF04CFC3435CE00E1F39D1C2F153716DAFEB15474D4A7FB378624BA8CF << lolk wait, the entire modulus being a factor in others doesn't make this phuctiored does it ?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-31#1594370 << no, it is a peculiar bug, that i will fix as soon as current packet terminates. though strangely enough every single instance of it to date resulted in a validly phuctured (factors smaller than self) modulus eventually ☝︎
asciilifeform: i am not a wwwist
ben_vulpes: just out of curiosity, asciilifeform, why is key download...a submit button?
asciilifeform: because sks gave it to us with a revoke cert glued on.
asciilifeform: ^ not a valid gpg key for some reason, though not flipolade.
mircea_popescu: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/1E261FCF04CFC3435CE00E1F39D1C2F153716DAFEB15474D4A7FB378624BA8CF << lolk wait, the entire modulus being a factor in others doesn't make this phuctiored does it ? ☟︎
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/5C0133D00F4010B34DC83543007A2856300E7CDE1BFF5BCE4869E77EEF76FDA8 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 9799...1301 divides RSA Moduli belonging to 'Alexander Rudolf <A_R...om>; Alexander Rudolf <ale...de>; ' (broadband-109-173-21-64.nationalcablenetworks.ru. Unknown)
mircea_popescu: oh found it. and the reason google doesn't turn up is probably "artificial intelligence". http://trilema.com/2014/consent-is-a-myth-lets-see-how-it-came-to-be/
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/the-ungiven-fucks-a-modern-bedtime-story/#comment-94025 unrelated stuff dug up.
asciilifeform: iirc it was also a commentary on a tlp piece.
asciilifeform: the one where 'chick is unsure whether she is being used as a woman, or as poke chip in a hidden casino'