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wbaw: you think bitbet are more reliable than betfair?
Duffer1: everyone else will just tell you what you want to hear right up until they run with your $$
wbaw: wtf are you talking about?
Duffer1: perhaps you haven't been around long wbaw but if i was a gambler Bitbet would be the only site I'd trust to do what they say, no more no less
ThickAsThieves: youre used to be being manipulated is what you are
wbaw: i'm used to better service, rather than being insulted by staff
Duffer1: I am certain that those involved with Bitbet regard Bitcoin as substantially more valuable than fiat
wbaw: they know not to come back after that
ThickAsThieves: and they demand to be customer that is always right and able to take all business away
wbaw: they have lots of big competitors but they think they're different because it's magical internet money so customer service doesn't count
ThickAsThieves: the best part about these bitbet naysaying interlopers is that it's always for like $50 bets
Duffer1: ah i'm not a gambler, i haven't kept up with the offerings in the space
wbaw: doesn't matter to me i can just go elsewhere
Duffer1: afaik MP is an owner and not actively involved, but as an owner I'm sure he's more annoyed with delayed bet closing than you
wbaw: so i will just use those instead
wbaw: every bookmaker closes bets when the event is over
ThickAsThieves: does bitbet say it will solve all bets in under X amount of time?
ThickAsThieves: unless it breaks their contract
wbaw: or being too slow to execute them because they were too busy abusing customers
ThickAsThieves: which you dont get to
ThickAsThieves: no, you were complaining about HOW they execute them
wbaw: i was complaining about them not executing them
ThickAsThieves: dont enter into arrangements with people then complain when they execute them
wbaw: then again when i remembered never to use it again & recommend against it
ThickAsThieves: on their terms
ThickAsThieves: their only obligation is to fill it
ThickAsThieves: no that's when you entered a contract
wbaw: when i became a customer & paid them money
ThickAsThieves: and when did they ask for your opinion
wbaw: every business has to serve it's customers or it fails
wbaw: no other bookmaker that has lasted has done that
wbaw: other bookmakers don't call me a bitch for giving them money
ThickAsThieves: if you want civil interactions with people, try being a human being
Duffer1: TaT i hear AM added 600th recently, might have something to do with it :P
Duffer1: ah that's cute
wbaw: never heard that?
wbaw: i think they're in romania though, so no excuse, was the middle of a working day
ThickAsThieves: wbaw that's one issue you won't win me over on
ThickAsThieves: well i just woke up and everything was the way it should be!
ThickAsThieves: wbaw, how could you possibly expect the diversity of bets at BitBet and immediate resolution on all of them?
ThickAsThieves: <mircea_popescu> uh what happened to this thing /// there's a frenzy over AM solving more blocks than usual (sell Neo! Buy AM!) and the Neo bid book didnt fill much behind the rally
wbaw: i'm not worried about anything cazalla, just explaining why it's my first & will be my only bet on the site
cazalla: so what are you worried about then
wbaw: so i'd be getting taxed for their mistake if i bet now, or the betting is corrupt
wbaw: *even though
wbaw: and i can't put bets on even those his website says that i can
wbaw: cazalla, according to mircea_popescu here that'd mean i just get taxed 1%
cazalla: wbaw: you should be more given the outcome is known, that will fix your problems
mircea_popescu: and anyway, i'd love to keep chattin' but got some stuff to do right nao
mircea_popescu: wbaw thjat's besides the point. i being already comparably big, your argument fails
Duffer1: following for the lawls
wbaw: they're not even the biggest
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic afaik that's a paid service.
Apocalyptic: I thought you were referencing the credit-rating claim
wbaw: Revenue rose 18 percent to 1.49 billion pounds of which net retail revenue accounted for 907 million pounds, up 10 percent, and online revenue rose 12 percent to 446 million pounds.
ozbot: William Hill plans cost cuts to offset new tax regime
mircea_popescu: well guess what... i'm not that far off. now what do we do.
Apocalyptic: mircea_popescu, you just linked me an article from today
mircea_popescu: wbaw what's the mkt cap of this williams thing ?
MisterE: lol Apocalyptic that's almost as bad as letting the 2 companies with the worst customer satisfaction numbers in the US merge :D
wbaw: mircea_popescu, this is why you'll never be big like they are
MisterE: almost got back in to ride is back to 570 but we're going under 550
mircea_popescu: wbaw in a word, yes. especially because bitcoin isn't a currency in this sense.
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic http://www.tdb.co.jp/tosan/syosai/3889.html if you can read that.
wbaw: so it's all different because of the currency?
wbaw: and they're the big name, not the new competitor
mircea_popescu: in bitcoin ? i dun think so.
wbaw: mircea_popescu, they were here first
mircea_popescu: wbaw how can they ?
wbaw: and how they do business
Apocalyptic: "<maz0> Teikoku Data Bank, Japan’s largest and most respected credit-rating agency, in July of last year reviewed the company and gave it a D4, the worst possible rating a company can receive on their scale. One of the reasons for the low rating was the lack of qualified accounting staff at the company." mircea is there any truth to that N
mircea_popescu: there was a weakness in the system
wbaw: and that's what it's about, taking those 1%s & fuck repeat custom
mircea_popescu: the lyf and tymes.
Apocalyptic: <ATH5> "There was a weakness in the system, and the bitcoins disappeared" << Karpeles live
cazalla: wbaw, why not use it to your advantage and bet on some props where the outcome is already known?
mircea_popescu: wbaw ideally people bet on things they know.
mircea_popescu: every business will make a choice as you can't have all three.
cazalla: ask snackman, he knows the answer to that one wbaw
mircea_popescu: these are the three ends of the triangle : how much it costs, how secure it is, how fast it goes.
wbaw: how do people know it's after the fact if the bet is still open?
mircea_popescu: and while it'd be ideal to move faster, it's also ideal not to make mistakes, and not to cost an infinity.
mircea_popescu: but you're in no way at risk. if people bet after the fact hey just get charged a small fine
wbaw: i'm not saying it's a scam, just you should act a bit faster to protect your customers
mircea_popescu: Bitcoin suddenly opened the gate. It is a poisonous offering. You are grossly unequipped to interact straight with the refuse of Western society. Accepting investors with fortunes under a million dollars or whatever the limit was placed for US citizens may make sense. Accepting investors with fortunes under any arbitrary value and simultaneously wits under any arbitrary threshold is not a sound business plan but a stra
mircea_popescu: ver they’re called now, non-lethal something or the other) to correctly handle them. They have the chemicals, they’ve done the research, know the behavioural patterns, have the walls all built to obstruct vision, living arrangements all thought through and everything.
mircea_popescu: Up until recently it was practically impossible to become embroiled into any sort of dealing with the subgroup, their ownership being strictly assumed and their lives strictly subsumed by the corporations competent at dealing with the human cattle : fastfood providers, supermarkets, the government. Both as employers and providers these specialised bureaucracies have the necessary tools, including cattle prods (or whate
ozbot: Strategic superiority, a saga pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2012/strategic-superiority-a-saga/ < that.
mircea_popescu: bah i can't believe i gave out the wrong link
cazalla: talk to snackman lol
mircea_popescu: if you're curious as to how that goes, see http://trilema.com/2013/bitcoin-prices-bitcoin-inflexibility/
chetty: hmm what huge company with lots of support team takes btc bets? I might want to check that out
mircea_popescu: i actually am not competing with huge companies for the favours of you.
wbaw: should have faster service instead of acting like you're not trying to compete with huge companies with customer support teams ☟︎
chetty: Seriously whats the rush? Not like you can get interest on BTC
mircea_popescu: dood, i'm sure it's good enough, a mod needs to get to it.
wbaw: for the context of that bet?
mircea_popescu: meanwhile : A talking parrot has helped Indian police crack an intriguing murder mystery and led the cops to arrest the killer.
wbaw: you take a 1% fee from returned bets, says on your site