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asciilifeform: programmatically pissing out transactions is trivial, use your imagination.
asciilifeform: under no circumstances should you tell us - or anyone else - which.
asciilifeform: benkay: depends on the actual mechanism used.
benkay: what is the going rate per kb?
asciilifeform: 'pay' in the sense that stuffing bits in the blockchain costs.
chetty: in the end a key based id is no different than the various numbers and stuff we use now, how do you protect those?
benkay: yeah, i'll buy that.
asciilifeform: (if you are not willing to pay what this costs, the payload cannot be important)
asciilifeform: encrypt, using a process known only to you, and inject in the blockchain.
benkay: i'm interested in best practices for this sort of scenario.
benkay: my whole business is tied up in this thing
benkay: it is the sum of my identity 25 years from now
benkay: is there a checklist for the professional keyholder i've failed to find?
benkay: am i retarded or is this problem hard?
benkay: #3 make it hard to parse the possibility space, #4 have rock solid encryption as a last barrier?
chetty: #1 - don't be a target, #2 - don't be an easy target
benkay: so the only thing to do is an encrypted drive with a memorized dicelist.
benkay: right. they got the backups.
asciilifeform: next lower class of attack: enemy willing to steal every single one of your identifiable possessions
benkay: more along the lines of list of things to do that will reduce attack surface area
asciilifeform: for some reason i thought that is what this line of thought was about.
asciilifeform: and doesn't know (or care) where you keep the stash
asciilifeform: situation where enemy (willing to torture and kill) knows that you're loaded
asciilifeform: none of you seem to be thinking about the obvious
benkay: i'm afraid of becoming an old man and actually losing it in the mess, though.
chetty: fillup a lot of storage with random stuff, encrypted with different keys, lose it in the mess
BingoBoingo: perhaps find a "collectible" surplus or replica for the purpose
BingoBoingo: carry some microfiche that looks like a one time pad and you actual keys more discretely, misdirect the attention
dub: benkay: one thing I do is delete or hide any wallets im carrying across borders
benkay: how do i best ensure i have access to it forever?
B007: just store your keys encrypted and offline, hope for the best?
benkay: okay i have this gpg key
B007: benkay: all your bitcoins are belong to me
asciilifeform: benkay: "personal crypto security: basically impossibly hard" << every time this is said, nsa cafeteria fillets and serves a white tiger kitten (or insert rarer and cuter animal)
benkay: i'm thinking best practices for personal backup and recovery strategy for keys and private contracts and such.
benkay: but also it has to be a sustainable, fault-tolerant thing that a person can practice their whole lives.
benkay: probably relatively high-profile from target perspective.
benkay: or suits as the case may be.
BingoBoingo: Nah, one doesn't want to appear to be a dorky BTC Jesus. One wants to look like a simple blue collar actual jesus.
BingoBoingo: benkay: Tack hammer on one's belt
B007: o rly? I heard he likes to eat it raw
MisterE: John Kerry: "You just don't in the 21st Century behave...by invading another country on completely trumped-up pretext" http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26405635
benkay: what goes on the ideal crypto-savvy human's personal-security checklist?
kakobrekla: i thought he wasnt coming back
benkay: oh hey herbijudlestoids good to know you're still alive
benkay: ;;later tell mircea_popescu re auroracoin wtf http://www.mbl.is/vidskipti/frettir/2013/12/19/hoftin_stodva_vidskipti_med_bitcoin/
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell mircea_popescu Maybe you are right http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/movies/moviesnow/la-et-mn-navy-seals-found-dead-captain-philips-ship-20140219,0,4241146.story?utm_campaign=linkbox_override&utm_source=wwwlatimes&utm_content=section#axzz2urlu269Y
benkay: more on the US polizei's role as underclass regulators: http://www.nickfarr.org/2014/02/what-i-learned-from-an-unfortunate-incident-with-the-nypd/
Jakamoko: did you build that exchange?
ozbot: Coined Up - The FREE Crypto-Only Currency Exchange
dub: and he ragequits all the time, the signal-drama ration is about normal
benkay: it's all going to come out eventually.
dub: I don't hate the guy, no reason to drag old shit into the -assets blogparty
nubbins`: me too, you've likely heard em
benkay: and to work for posterity just oodles of research into this rapeghost character
benkay: well that's bloody interesting
nubbins`: [21:43:57] <rg> and everyone is being mean to me
nubbins`: [21:43:53] <rg> well this is annoying
nubbins`: it's not a web of people who eventually made good in the end after being publicly embarassed
nubbins`: which, after all, is what a web of trust is
nubbins`: doesn't seem to want to come to terms that this is because i don't trust him
nubbins`: also butthurt that i rated him -2
dub__: ah the log goes into that
ozbot: Urban Dictionary: Paying the Rent
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Paying%20the%20Rent | Paying the Rent. A sex position in which the man fits his shoulders into the back of the womans knees, lifts her off the ground so that only her shoulders are on ...
dub__: ;;ud paying the rent
kakobrekla: [21:21:00] <HappzzC__> yeah, youre like a week late snd i depend on the miney
kakobrekla: well what has the world come to
nubbins`: finally decided to start talking today
nubbins`: he was lurking as Guest56803 for the past few days
ozbot: [21:05:50] <rg> but i had to pay rent today [21:06:04] <nezZario> The only - Pastebin.com
benkay: well it might be caselaw nubbins` that's the thing
benkay: hey nubbins` would you be a friend and pastebin some logs of the -otc drama for us?
benkay: that's right we had some luls with that one time
BingoBoingo: Nah, Steve Jobs had Pancreatic cancer, Real Jobs is the last survivor of the Jobs family
benkay: steve jobs is the future
kakobrekla: cause real jobs is the future
kakobrekla: later to get a real job and leaving it up with namworld
benkay: ah right and sold it to someone else iirc?
nubbins`: and is now scrambling to undo the damage
nubbins`: rg is raging at the world in -otc
benkay: "Greg and Connie were born in New Jersey, but from the moment the Internet struck, they might as well have just arrived from Taiwan. When the Internet landed on them, it redistributed the prestige and authority that goes with a general understanding of the ways of the world away from the grown-ups and to the child. The grown-ups now depended on the child to translate for them. Technology had turned them into a family of immigrants."
benkay: kid needs to get into btc
ozbot: Jonathan Lebed: Stock Manipulator, S.E.C. Nemesis -- and 15 - New York Times
nubbins`: "It seems like Mark Karpeles is blinking "GAG" repeatedly in MORSE code during the video, did anyone else notice this?"
benkay: here's to a fantastic 2014, assettes
benkay: shipped a project skeleton last week and the pm wants to bring us on to another project he's doing
nubbins`: right on, brought a stack of zines to a coffee shop yesterday and they've got a third of them sold already
ozbot: How one defence staffer stood up for Access to Information - Politics - CBC News
FabianB: some improvements to the portfolio cmd too (statistics of STAT / prices)
FabianB: and improved security of password handling (even though i recommend using gpg-agent)
FabianB: mircea_popescu: someone requested 'push' without having to use the 'plain' raw command
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 558.01, Best ask: 558.99, Bid-ask spread: 0.98000, Last trade: 559.22, 24 hour volume: 5157.75311747, 24 hour low: 553.0, 24 hour high: 574.0, 24 hour vwap: 563.038889631
peterl: what's the gribble command to see the current exchange rate?
mircea_popescu: stop dating tweens!
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla thats probably because you've not seen hair on a woman's pubis since 2005
kakobrekla: gf showed me that earlier
mircea_popescu: "You can't see it, but since this is America, the problem here is debt. Not credit card debt, though I suspect that's substantial too, but self-esteem debt. They're borrowing against their future accomplishments to feel good about themselves today, hoping they'll be able to pay it back."
benkay: anyways when there's capital to be flushed down the drain of styling around here you can bet i'll do it. appearances ain't a priority on anything but http://survantjames.com until we're booked for a year solid.
benkay: dunno if you can inspect elements in lynx and get their computed css properties, but if you do that you can verify the above claim.