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ThickAsThieves: this is of course why ethereum can't be taken seriously, etc
ThickAsThieves: what's worse is they weren't even scamming
ThickAsThieves: the whole thing was surreal
ThickAsThieves: also they'd open source the miners after they mined "enough"
ThickAsThieves: indeed, it also reminds me of the quantum mining guys somehow arguing that soliciting investors to create it would make them rich in bitcoins, while out the other side of their mouth saying that quantum invulnerable wallets can be made afterward
Neil: I guess I can celebrate understanding sthg mircea doesn't / didn't 24 hrs ago. There is no problem with the compilers; whatever they do is good; it's all in the language spec and doing something with no defined semantics.
nubbins`: twist: nsa foresaw digital currency and created bitcoin codebase so that a flawed implementation would ruin people on the idea
Neil: When I release my bitcoin implementation, it may suck in many ways, but it won't have things like that in it.
Neil: NSA doesn't have to try too hard.
nubbins`: actually, you could remove everything past the first three words
Neil: ThickAsThieves: The problem is, these are always signs that the dude that wrote it doesn't really know what they're doing. Hence why we're all running code with remote exploits.
nubbins`: half that sentence isn't necessary
ThickAsThieves: "I can't think of any computer program that was running 130 years ago that is still running today." ...
Neil: Yeah so I'm zebedee on the fora
Neil: Lemme find the link
Neil: (though DJBs language conformance was pretty shit too)
Neil: The problem is most coders don't know the language they're writing, nor do they care. Hence the crap we deal with. We need more Dan Bernsteins and Matt Dillons.
Neil: But a bug it is; the code wouldn't pass muster in GCC which I used to maintain.
Neil: The laughing was something like "Yeah we'll all care about that in 2200" which is fair enough; no way will the bug last that long. And you won't care before then.
Neil: It's undefined behaviour to shift by an amount greater than or equal to the bitwidth of the type in C and C++. No such care was taken in the bitcoind codebase.
Neil: I pointed out the >>= bug about 1 year ago. I got laughed at on the forums.
ThickAsThieves: chetty 1, TAT 0
nubbins`: big ol' whitespace breaks going down the page
chetty: <ThickAsThieves> who takes delivery of a web dev project and THEN tests it? what web dev refunds money just cuz job isnt finished? <<< The US Gov?
ThickAsThieves: "It's not a currency," he said. "I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't around in the next 10-20 years." "It's being priced off the dollar," Buffett added. "It is not a durable means of exchange."
HeySteve: nubbins, what's up with the layout?
ThickAsThieves: ignore that i read it wrong :)
ThickAsThieves: "Mark Karpeles blatantly lied so as to hide an inexcusable fact: no development work had been done. "
ThickAsThieves: so far this tells the story of every single web dev project ever
ThickAsThieves: who takes delivery of a web dev project and THEN tests it? what web dev refunds money just cuz job isnt finished?
ThickAsThieves: "As a result of one’s legitimate desire not to pay for a job failing to comply with the original agreement"
ThickAsThieves: way to lead an article...
ThickAsThieves: Doge Tips? ...
ThickAsThieves: <nubbins`> wow, so bitstamp lost their email list? lel /// I'm skeptical
HeySteve: we have the story of Karpele's fraud in France before he fled to Japan and started Gox - http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/2014/03/03/exclusive-tibanne-co-ltd-sentenced-2013-mark-karpeless-lies-new/
nubbins`: wow, so bitstamp lost their email list? lel
ThickAsThieves: you can still see the Silver Member logo on his site today if you click thru www.inputs.io
ThickAsThieves: yes the post is errored in that TF was a Silver Member of the BTCFundnation
vexuall: Laughing time is over
vexuall: Warm yor cake hole corn hole sppooon fed fuckstick face by the fire
dexX7_: it's different this time!
chetty: <dexX7_> this is probably teh end of bitcoin :( <<<<< what again???
wao-ender: v00h, this is hell wimmie crazy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFdHe-_82Xc
vexuall: Not to be confused with atc. Altcoin
vexuall: Do they have newsgroups?
vexuall: Still a thing :)
vexuall: Some dude said how the internet routs around fucktardery wnd cesorship
vexuall: Such that an irc handle wont save you
dexX7_: this is probably teh end of bitcoin :(
ozbot: Bitstamp email list used to spread Mt.Gox malware : Bitcoin
vexuall: Good luck buying a corner to piss in dux
Apocalyptic: amazingly it's still there : https://members.bitcoinfoundation.org/current
vexuall: Tunnel time
Apocalyptic: mircea_popescu, "The only reason TradeFortress wasn't similarly has to do with cash" // I believe the foundation vouched for him in the sense they published some logo or whatever advertising for inputs.io
benkay: give it three years you might talk mp into flying you out to dj the next secret bitcoinspiracy con
benkay: you play sweet tunes
vexuall: Who gives a fuck what I think?
benkay: yeah well how the fuck am i supposed to rate you if you're not even in the wot?!
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user vexuall to user Benkay: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=vexuall&dest=Benkay | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Benkay | Rated since: Sun Mar 10 13:57:45 2013
benkay: you know vex you can get in the wot with just a btc wallet
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user Vexual: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=Vexual | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Vexual | Rated since: never
benkay: hey and what happened to your nick
benkay: i think ihop's over thattaway baby doll
vexuall: Ben10 can you point me to pankakke, s sexiness?
benkay: sorry nobody's around to tell you your news is stale on cue
benkay: they're linked in the message of the day.
benkay: azi` you could check the logs
azi`: have u guys seen that someone stole personal data from gox just recently?
azi`: gah I hope the guys at gox didn't store the passwords in playintex
vexuall: Can I get a link to pankkakes mpex charting?
ozbot: Calling out the Bitcoin Foundation Scam.
mircea_popescu: this is a serious problem, because one cent from one billion scum results in enough piled up money for shit like spears and aurora coin to pretenbd like they matter.
mircea_popescu: they'll spend it to buy britney spears records and aurora coins
mircea_popescu: if they have as much as one cent extra over what the bare minimum their sustenance requires,
mircea_popescu: that way you ensure any resources they have are judiciously expended.
mircea_popescu: this is the problem with welfare : this sort of idiot should be on a starvation diet
benkay: the surprise is that people buy this particular scam.
benkay: and yet the aurora coin people are nominally going to give coins to icelandic folk?
mircea_popescu: benkay well yes, the icelanders are under insane capital controls. what's the surprise here ?
mircea_popescu: they should have quit when i said it's a scam, not wait till after i killed their piggybank.
mircea_popescu: anyway. for the record : people quitting Bitcoin Foundation now are going to be getting exactly zero credit for it.
joecool: oh god i was missing this kind of scamming
Apocalyptic: yeah I can agree on that
mircea_popescu: bitcoin is here to kill aml anyway. why prolong its agony.
mircea_popescu: it's great, it will encourage anyone who isn't an imbecile to not send his data to aml bs.
mircea_popescu: o yeah, this is good drama, gotta keep it for at least a month.
Apocalyptic: damn, i've been off for a while and it seems the gox drama is keeping on
mircea_popescu: you'd think bfl's vleisides is advising them.
mircea_popescu: maybe this way they'll escape prosecution and everything
KRS-One: BREAKING NEWS: USD transaction maleability issue. News at 11.
mircea_popescu: in new news : bitcoin scamdation running out of the us
gribble: Error: This nick is not registered. Please register.
chetty: Tim Cook has shocked some in the US with an impassioned attack on the single-minded pursuit of profit – and a direct appeal to climate-change deniers not to buy shares in his firm.
Jakamoko: supposedly they got access to the user's aml documentation
ThickAsThieves: "nanashi____ who posted the leaked recording between Mark Karpeles and the Japanese bank also says there is a 20GB MySQL database. An unknown group is trying to decode it and retrieve non-personal information at the moment, and may release a torrent later."
benkay: i guess just another aspect of the problem we all face that we never talk about in public because just talking about it exposes your practices
benkay: stuff like this as well: http://lists.gnupg.org/pipermail/gnupg-users/2005-December/027626.html
MisterE: Crimerians are happy the Russians are there
asciilifeform: ('standardized stego' is the key hidden under door mat.)
asciilifeform: benkay: remember that steganography, unlike cryptography, cannot be simultaneously strong and standardized. ☟︎