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ozbot: New Side Channel Attack That Can Recover Private Keys : Bitcoin
Apocalyptic: <r3wt> i seek knowledge of prepared queries in php // what happened to the LUA version ?
chetty: Former IRS official Lois Lerner pleading the Fifth right now. <<< again
mircea_popescu: i write too much ;/
mircea_popescu: i totally forgot i wrote that article.
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic i was shocked at the trilema link
Apocalyptic: mircea_popescu, no the quotes are from Hearn
asciilifeform: 'a secure system that was designed without human beings in mind'
mircea_popescu: wait i wrote that ?!
mircea_popescu: pretty much the foundation halmark. it's due to the failure modes of the ycombinated mind.
Apocalyptic: yeah don't focus on how shit has to be done, focus on the people fss !
mircea_popescu: mike_c he's just trying to misrepresent himself into relevancy
Apocalyptic: "The user experience must be incredibly simple", "The main justification for this design choice is usability. In the same way that security cannot be bolted on at the last minute, the reverse also holds — you can’t bolt usability on to a secure system that was designed without human beings in mind"
ThickAsThieves: "I asked my wife what she would trade for 5,000 Arscoins. Her answer: “A kiss?” Boom! A market had been created." lol
ozbot: Behold Arscoin, our own custom cryptocurrency | Ars Technica
ThickAsThieves: it took like 5min
ThickAsThieves: i dont even know what a SSL really does, nor am I a programmer, but I have successfully purchased and installed one on a system I advised the client was not really secure
chetty: A Florida woman has gone head to head with a local judge who has declared her efforts to live off the grid illegal and in violation of local and international code ordinances.
mike_c: the bullshit per line in that article is astounding.
mike_c: "being a CA involves tedious, mind-numbingly repetitive yet security critical work that unpaid volunteers are ill equipped to do well. " has he ever gone through the process of getting a SSL cert?? they don't do shit.
Apocalyptic: asciilifeform, thanks for the link
ThickAsThieves: "CIA officers allegedly hacked into the US Senate Intelligence Committee's computers to find out what the oversight committee had found out about its controversial detention and treatment of terror suspects.‬"
asciilifeform: the traditional de-colonialization move from imposed to... self-imposed
ThickAsThieves: "We’ve gone through 100 years of imposed poverty. That’s the fight we’re having"
ThickAsThieves: trailed him around the room as he hunted for a printer so he could issue the digital currency on paper. "
ThickAsThieves: "Anyone can buy or sell the currency, but the Lakota are keeping half of it in reserve in order to prevent the wild speculation that has caused Bitcoin such price volatility. ... After an hour of questions, Harris thanked the small crowd and was promptly accosted by a tall man and a woman in red who wanted to buy some MazaCoin, which Harris was selling for 10 cents apiece. The two
Apocalyptic: <asciilifeform> [15:03:49] this is just too good // it is
ThickAsThieves: before he takes the bitcoin jesus torch
mircea_popescu: type 1 is no longer interested. type 2 is now very interested.
asciilifeform: this is just too good
mircea_popescu: there are 2 sorts of people in this world, and they're made apparent by the reaction to the statement "few understand this"
asciilifeform: 'It’s not clear how you would build a secure way to initialise the Trezor, as you’d need to use an untrusted computer to present trusted keys into the device. A virus (MITM) could intercept and rewrite the keys as they were being loaded into the device. Unless you had key fingerprints written down on paper, it’d be impossible to notice a mismatch. Pre-agreed root certs installed at the factory solve this
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform :D chump selection techniques.
mircea_popescu: and north korea because too stupid.
mircea_popescu: euros because they're too lazy to do it, and prefer to suckle on the us drip,
asciilifeform: 'Usability studies have shown nobody outside of the tiny security community understands the web of trust or how to use it.'
asciilifeform: 'SSL is one of very few crypto systems that’s in daily usage by hundreds of millions of people. Remarkably, it seems that governments have not compromised the infrastructure.'
asciilifeform: (but not in the u.s. media, unsurprisingly.)
mircea_popescu: the tape is news.
chetty: well the tape is news :P
asciilifeform: chetty: this is not news to me
chetty: The snipers who shot at protesters and police in Kiev were allegedly hired by Maidan leaders, according to a leaked phone conversation between the EU foreign affairs chief Catherine Ashton and Estonian foreign affairs minister, which has emerged online.
chetty: 42% said they believed a "motherboard" was "the deck of a cruise ship"
chetty: 23% thought an "MP3" was a "Star Wars" robot
ozbot: Niagara Falls comes to frozen halt AGAIN as subfreezing temperatures freeze water | Mail Online
mircea_popescu: soo apparently the niagara has frozxen over
punkman1: "Since the code is obfuscated, would it be possible to monitor the web traffic going out from the wallet to make sure it never sends private keys anywhere?"
ozbot: MuCoWa - A MultiCoinWallet to your service - Update now: 1.3.0 Quark added
dub: when the one true altcoin rises to engulf them
cazalla: at what point do these alts collapse under their own weight?
ThickAsThieves: know someone reputable to make/run it?
ThickAsThieves: i had bet yes on the areolacoin bet btw
punkman1: "COMRADE crypto movement designed to replicate the economic tactics used by the Comrade leaders of the USSR to rise the Soviet Union from the Ashes to what become the most powerful nation in the world (at the time)."
punkman1: "-StakeHolder-Miners pay a fee of 0.1BTC to register. Miner-Stake holders who pay the fee for early mining access will be known as THE GENERALS"
punkman1: these guys want 0.1btc to let you mine or something
punkman1: you pay in minertokens to rent minertoken mining rigs
mircea_popescu: which one is this ?
punkman1: "Our minerrigs will be avaible for rent from launch. A total of 1.6 Gh scrypt will be rentet out for 50,000 MTK/Mh/day. When your total rent pass 1000 Mh you will be the legal owner of a 5Mh rig. You can then chose to continue let us host it and get 80% of the rentalprofit or you can get it shipped to your door"
punkman1: surprised there's not a dozen of these already
punkman1: "mine MinerTokens, rent more mining power to mine more MinerTokens to rent more mining power to mine more MinerTokens..... You can see where I'm going with this."
mircea_popescu: now this bullshit makes bitcoin easy to dismiss as "indian highschool tomfoolery"
mircea_popescu: i mean, intellectually ridiculous. back in 2011 bruce wagner's antics made bitcoin easy to dismiss as "that cp ring"
mircea_popescu: we need price signal, this is ridiculous
punkman1: there's like 3 dozen altcoin "exchanges" ready to add any random scamcoin
mircea_popescu: by now you can just edit the page, write random numbers. just as reflective of reality.
mircea_popescu: sorry, sanity. i tried.
BingoBoingo: I'll try not to
BingoBoingo: Imma be lucky if my farts don't kill me before I wake up tomorrow afternoon
BingoBoingo: jurov: I dun smell too good right nao
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BingoBoingo: ;;rate thebutterzone 1 sells things
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BingoBoingo: ;;rate ThickAsThieves 1 The Real Altcoin's Mother
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BingoBoingo: ;;rate artifexd 1 atc trade
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BingoBoingo: ;;rate artifexd_ 1 ATC trade
BingoBoingo: That example I linked in the logs is poorly structured, and in sports betting the actual likely best case is a 30%loss.
BingoBoingo: The challenge in BTC right now is that the only instrument which has really sustained honest loses is the MPOE bond
MisterE: but I'll read the log give me a few
MisterE: sounds like a major security hassle tbh
BingoBoingo: And finding venues to bet on.
BingoBoingo: MisterE: Like staking sports betting, Similar to how poker is staked. The challenge is doing it in a way that the staked party can't fake the results into an honest looking loss.
MisterE: like day trade?
BingoBoingo: MisterE: If we can figure out how to make something like http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-03-2014#546112 honest ☝︎
theviper: Bro., DO you even trade?
BingoBoingo: MisterE: Do you want to try something riskier?
MisterE: dunno wtf people were expecting... Magic The Gathering cards for everyone who had BTC in Gox...
MisterE: so market shat after that dud
MisterE: I'm still in the black but...
MisterE: had no business in there
ozbot: Don't panic, but that public Wi-Fi is coming from ... inside your house - TwinCities.com
kakobrekla: he is talking about THE current bet Duffer1