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mircea_popescu: > 200 tons of gold in items, many older than 1700
mircea_popescu: they (ie, indian govt) recently opened the vault of donations of one of the larger temples
bitcoinpete: Huh… nuts I must be. This, I did not know
mircea_popescu: if you think anyone can compete with buddhism over that you're nuts, they probably have more than all the others combined.
mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete the objection was to art land and gold
mircea_popescu: MisterE: Little late for that eh? < lawl. it's what bystanders do, usually. comment on future events as they perceive them, which obviously to the actual players are long past.
bitcoinpete: Moderately familiar with Hinduism and Buddhism. I guess the branch-tree argument is valid. Continuity is continuity
Namworld: Go abraham (not the lincoln one)
mircea_popescu: only because you're unfamiliar with the east.
mircea_popescu: but if you go by headcount i guess you gotta count the muricans.
bitcoinpete: Catholic Church still seems to win the "most successful" award for land, art, gold, etc
mircea_popescu: generally they're ignored for their complete lack of intellectual production and cultural impact
mircea_popescu: i guess you can include the various protestant and neoprotestant sects in there.
mircea_popescu: minor disagreements over who exactly the prophets are
mircea_popescu: judaism -> orthodoxy -> catholicism -> islam, same thing
Namworld: islam too
mircea_popescu: nobody in the business seriously considers the branches apart from the root.
bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: Sure, Judaism too… Maybe not as centralized as such, nor as auspiciously
mircea_popescu: either of them has more followers today than jesus
mircea_popescu: for that matter, so has buddha
Namworld: No... those transactions... some are in the blockchain it seems.
mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete you know, there are numerous religions longer lasting than the catholic church
chetty_: they left the fake transaction bots running?
Namworld: Ok, I'm laughing now. This is too much.
Namworld: This must be an ode to stupidity.
Namworld: looks like MtGox is still publishing that it's moving lotta Bitcoins...
mircea_popescu: link is to mtgox api
mircea_popescu: Transactions are recorded automatically every 5 minutes from this page, which displays all Bitcoin transactions from Mt.Gox that have not been confirmed for 2 or more hours according to their wallet software.
Namworld: API isn't there anymore, but some MtGox addresses where known.
Namworld: I believe this is based on past addresses used by MtGox, as per past transactions listed in their API
mircea_popescu: kinda dubious in that it's based on gox.
Namworld: A stats and tracking website.
Namworld: Movements? The heck.
ozbot: Mt.Gox BTC Transactions - Coinsight.org
Namworld: ref to something Mats said earlier
KRS-One: whats that mean Namworld
MisterE: Little late for that eh?
MisterE: US warns Russia not to annex Crimea: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26501716
asciilifeform: (an american would think: ~167,000 but he's wrong.)
chetty_: crossing the street?
Mats_cd03: > Travelling 1000 miles (1600 km) by jet
Mats_cd03: > Travelling 6000 miles (9656 km) by train
Mats_cd03: > Travelling 230 miles (370 km) by car
Mats_cd03: > Activities that increase the death risk by roughly one micromort, and their associated cause of death:
ozbot: Micromort - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Mats_cd03: on the subject of death
MisterE: nothing worse than a flat market
ozbot: What Is Business? The Roman Catholic Church, For One | When Bitcoin Met Pete
bitcoinpete: In which I figure out how to use footnotes:
joecool: Philip Morris International was split from Philip Morris USA in March 2008. < ah missed that
mike_c: not rebranded, they split up their domestic and international business.
joecool: altria, rj reylolds, and lorillard i think are the big 3
joecool: altria is PM rebranded, they are the same
mike_c: it's interesting, because i have always heard anecedotally that taxes were killing US tobacco. i guess i heard it from the tobacco lobby :)
mircea_popescu: usa tobaccomuch more productive. i guess bans help indeed.
mircea_popescu: International tobacco48,260/ 8,458
mircea_popescu: USA tobacco18,474 / 4,812
mircea_popescu: hahahaha this is hysterical :
mircea_popescu: in fact, it bolsters it : intl only pm does substantially equally well as the us-only pm
mike_c: i thought it would, but it does not. altria has doubled over the last few years
mircea_popescu: mike_c yeah it doesn't substantially alter the argument
mike_c: although they have done well over the last few years too
mircea_popescu: mike_c it doesn't sell in the us ?!
asciilifeform: visit the web site of any u.s. pcb maker, they're all decorated with pictures of fighter jets, boats, etc.
asciilifeform: i think every other customer of that place is part of the DOD wankatron.
mircea_popescu: well at least that gold didnt turn into pure shit.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the four little green RNGs were made at a u.s. plant. cost: ~their weight in pure gold.
Duffer1: if you want it to taste really good and take 30 years off the average life span of your customers.. and be dirt cheap, then you want american expertise
mircea_popescu: how quickly the cool goes...
mircea_popescu: the consumer appliance that inspired jobs.
mircea_popescu: The trademark is a subsidiary of and owned by Conair Corporation which acquired the brand following Cuisinart's bankruptcy in 1989.
mircea_popescu: they don't really make the cuisinarts in the us anymore do they
asciilifeform: how quickly the 'cool' goes.
mircea_popescu: but i can't readily think of anything which'd be improved by being made in the us.
mircea_popescu: then there was a war and a number of unfortunate choices... and by today people may want japanese stuff,
mircea_popescu: it was like... people actually came an extra distance with oxen fucking carts just because of that cool.
mircea_popescu: my grandfather was a mayor, and a bunch of other things, but the one true source of public respect was that he owned and operated an american mill
mircea_popescu: B007 what huge industry were you tihnking about ?
asciilifeform: and, mostly completing the list, maintaining infrastructure (sort of!)
asciilifeform: and then there's building the gun
asciilifeform: well, there's pointing a gun at people to make them pay for copied bits
asciilifeform: 'Industry is the only true source of wealth, and there was no industry in Rome. By day the Ostia road was crowded with carts and muleteers, carrying to the great city the silks and spices of the East, the marble of Asia Minor, the timber of the Atlas, the grain of Africa and Egypt; and the carts brought nothing out but loads of dung. That was their return cargo. London turns dirt into gold. Rome turned gold int ☟︎
B007: we have about the same gdp as all of europe
mircea_popescu: it's what happens when places go to shit. everything goes down.
mircea_popescu: fucking is also down in the us.
B007: I never stated anything about profits or size compared to fb
B007: thats accually a good point, but it is still true that smoking in the us is down
mircea_popescu: so there you have it : smoking is down and the industry makes a degree of magnitude more than social media.
mircea_popescu: BTI is probably a better example. ~5 per share in the 80s, 100+ per share now.
mircea_popescu: much better profit margin, too. twice as good, in fact.
mircea_popescu: about 7x as big as facebook, to put it in terms readily digestible by the online crowd
mircea_popescu: PM was trading ~50 a share in 2008 and is trading ~90 a share now
asciilifeform: folks who don't get their 'dietary minimum' of 'millideaths per day' tend to get edgy.
B007: smoking is way down in the us
mircea_popescu: people seem to have taken the smoking kills adds the same way
ozbot: Two for the Money (2005) - Quotes - IMDb
mircea_popescu: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0417217/quotes?item=qt0158941 << re this excellent pacino performance :
asciilifeform: (people who endlessly fidget with their cars)
mircea_popescu: all those "guns are not toys" adds backfired i guess
mircea_popescu: i would guess this'd be because a gun is pretty much the coolest toy adults can afford.