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asciilifeform: and a contrivance for transporting and releasing it.
mircea_popescu: do or used to ?
asciilifeform: (of the piss)
asciilifeform: some 'prole' work (restaurants, etc.) that were conned into paying for it
ozbot: Drug Screening for Employers | Quest Diagnostics : Urine Test with Quest Diagnostics
asciilifeform: (other traditional drugs have very short half-lives)
BingoBoingo: Shit, It would be less than a 12 Km drive to asciilifeform if I wrote off the necessary distance that happens on US 40
asciilifeform: my understanding is that it is done as a 'random' inspection
asciilifeform: it may or may not be happening. only the 'national seekoority' bureaucrats are theoretically subject to pisstesting.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so you live there, do you ?
gribble: (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX] [--market <market>|all]) -- Return pretty-printed ticker. Default market is Bitstamp. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure the (1 more message)
gribble: Bitstamp | There are currently 17296.977 bitcoins offered at or under 20000.0 USD, worth 15399449.7301 USD in total. | Data vintage: 1.6530 seconds
gribble: Bitstamp | There are currently 11017.05 bitcoins offered at or under 800.0 USD, worth 7802457.34039 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.3021 seconds
gribble: Bitstamp | A market order to buy 800 bitcoins right now would take 525811.5155 USD and would take the last price up to 660.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 657.2644 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0440 seconds
dexX7: i want to see where we'd end
dexX7: how does that work??
gribble: (buy [--long] <amount> <thing> [at|@] <priceperunit> <otherthing> [<notes>]) -- Logs a buy order for <amount> units of <thing>, at a price of <price> per unit, in units of <otherthing>. Use the optional <notes> field to put in any special notes. <price> may include an arithmetical expression, and {(mtgox|bitstamp)(ask|bid|last|high|low|avg)} to index price to mtgox ask, bid, last, high, (1 more message)
mircea_popescu: yeah, scammers tend tro have issues with me
mircea_popescu: o that guy.
mircea_popescu: who, this ?
MAKABEakira: he -10'd you, if i am reading it right. he banned me from mtgox for having the temerity to suggest he might be helping a crime happen
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: unrelated. little bug in your site. '<<' ends up slicing off any text behind it.
mircea_popescu: but be that as it may : get in the wot.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Less Bitcoin's weaknesses then its necessary inefficiencies
mircea_popescu: more productive, too, in that it builds you a moat.
mircea_popescu: MAKABEakira a better idea would perhaps be to re-structure the program so as to work better with bitcoin's weaknesses.
mod6: BingoBoingo: ok, will check it out then. thx.
BingoBoingo: mod6: It's definitely worth catching at least the pilot on the shady streaming site of your choice
mod6: BingoBoingo: I havent seen Chozen yet, its funny though huh?
MAKABEakira: also, disclosure, this would not be for network tv, this is a smaller Bitcoin-land specific project which will be bcast on web only. its a warmup proj to test workable ideas for a later network show
mircea_popescu: but then users would have to "log in" which... gpg ?
dexX7: introduce some kind of "bitbet balance/wallet" which you can fund before a show to skip confirmation times
MAKABEakira: mircea_popescu, wp. i didn't consider that at all
BingoBoingo: LTC has 20 minute blocks too occasionally
dexX7: i heard dogecoin has a time between blocks of 1 min
mircea_popescu: that kinda killed your idea right there
MAKABEakira: 22 min typically. sometimes we go over. and by sometimes i mean every time
dexX7: because you may need to keep in mind that there are confirmation times
BingoBoingo: MAKABEakira: who says he even hires Romanian. Trilema shows he tries to avoid it as much as possible
MAKABEakira: mircea_popescu, i'll update you after i due dilly on this plan a bit.
mircea_popescu: do yourself a favour get in the wot today.
mircea_popescu: reasonably open to this in principle then.
MAKABEakira: mircea_popescu, we are pretty visible, kinda hard to run from the romanian a-team if we burn y'all
mircea_popescu: MAKABEakira in principle it is externalisable, but in practice it's a problematic point, because if you scam the users on my trademark i'll have to kill you.
BingoBoingo: mod6: I'm actually starting to like it's followup Chozen. Reminds me of Bitcointalk last summer.
BingoBoingo: mod6: Kenny Loggins was the greater part of that though.
BingoBoingo: MAKABEakira: Well, the thing is... Audience interaction may be good for business but it is shit for art, even barely art art
MAKABEakira: mircea_popescu, we have a prod team who can has assigned a staff for that if it is externalizable
mircea_popescu: it can be done, if you have the volume to justify it. otherwise, just so it exists generally, it's not gonna happen
mircea_popescu: out of that 1% i'll have to justify someone sitting with eyes glued to your thing
mircea_popescu: well, consider the business caseas first and foremost. bitbet takes 1%
MAKABEakira: mircea_popescu, we wont do it if we cannot. i didn't even consider this idea till you brought up bitbet, but i like the prospects.
MAKABEakira: BingoBoingo, not much you can do in drama with audience interaction, which is what we specilize in. standup project in works though.
BingoBoingo: MAKABEakira: Well, honesly this got less interesting when you said game show. Honestly I was hoping you'd say drama, like The Blacklist, Almost Human, Archer, Chozen, or Hannibal
MAKABEakira: BingoBoingo, no sir. not *that* famous. but a hint. this show knocked wheel of fortune out of several markets
BingoBoingo: You can answer this next question or decline it as you wish, but Jeopardy?
MAKABEakira: mircea_popescu, live TV project needs live TV timeframes
mircea_popescu: MAKABEakira so why can't these be week bets like in sane land ?
MAKABEakira: i am working with a team that produces a nationally syndicated game show on US TV
mircea_popescu: this means that if you bet 1350 btc or less you are guaranteedly going to be paid out (should you win) with btc that are already held from old bets.
BingoBoingo: MAKABEakira: What sort of TV projects do you have experience working on if you care to answer?
mircea_popescu: the total actual exposure bitbet has to bets (ie, stuff people bet that hasn't been yet resolved) is 414.9x
mircea_popescu: but anyway, since we have been doing some auditing on bitbet : the total BTC held in currently published addresses is 1778.18326295. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: how the hell do you imagine an admin would get to it.
MAKABEakira: mircea_popescu, TV
MAKABEakira: a sub 20 min bet time limit would be useful
mircea_popescu: "forever" at 19 means about three months
mircea_popescu: yea see the mod comment
MAKABEakira: mircea_popescu does the bet stand even w/out gox in the pix
MAKABEakira: top bet 10k BTC. whats that, only $30/day rise every day till then, to win it.
dexX7: quick, get a blockchain.info tag
MAKABEakira: yes none of that blue horde discount mongol crap.
mircea_popescu: that's the address paying the house bets, refunds, referrals.
mircea_popescu: anyway, since we're discussing bitbet, i dunno if this was ever published, but
MAKABEakira: according to all my armenian friends (and in LA, you cannot not have them) they are all the direct issue of the big G himself.
mircea_popescu: it's in the contract you know, http://mpex.co/?mpsic=S.BBET
joecool: bbl tacos
joecool: oh well, i respect the mystery
grubles: who owns the other half, if I might ask?
joecool: how do i know you're not trolling right now?
mircea_popescu: joecool i rarely troll.
joecool: mircea_popescu: i never can tell if you're serious or trolling most of the time, imma roll with it though
MAKABEakira: hmm on there now. grep deadpool section
BingoBoingo: Bitbet is the best bet
MAKABEakira: mircea_popescu, i am not up to speed on bitbet. are they buy|sell|trold?
BingoBoingo: Well since the gox collapse last names with the Si* pattern of spelling are hard to track without pulling the redbook out of its safe place
copumpkin: mircea_popescu: thank you :)
mircea_popescu: what i don't love is how many people need to be hurt into comprehending that they're better off following than trying to lead.
MAKABEakira: dexX7, good catch. i love the way they float the ideas until they coalesce into precipitate. makes the fanclub think that these things 'just appear' somehow
mircea_popescu: MAKABEakira well ther'es the bitbet bet...
dexX7: the plans of the sm exchange go back to at least november. a "ny based exchange" was mentioned several times during the senate hearings and i guess that's no coincidence. also a bitlicense was promoted via the press at that time.
bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: Speaking of encouraging people to blog more , my latest, mostly a rehashing of asciilifeform on digital security: http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/digital-delusions-of-digital-security/
BingoBoingo: MAKABEakira: What I mean is if you want to run something as a "Trust" for patrons, you do indeed need to dogfood it instead of depositing with Gox.
Duffer1: i expect they'll still try to do an exchange, i have doubts about longevity of the venture though
MAKABEakira: BingoBoingo, agreed :D but i think they are interested in making their own dogfood
BingoBoingo: SecondMarket would have been well advised to avoid Gox and consider http://mpex.co/faq.html#28
MAKABEakira: i am sure there were some. i think it's more of PR 'not it' move
Duffer1: nobody paying attention for more than a month would have known to not have $$ there
Duffer1: if they had traders on gox then i doubt they're fit to run an exchange of their own
MAKABEakira: Duffer1 yes. silbert put an embargo on all employee trading actvity after Count Goxula started his final bender. has not resumed since afaik