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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: snapshot lets you take counts of live allocs as often as you like
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: nah this is an entirely other animal, 'igprof.' takes malloc byte counts from a living (!) process
decimation: mircea_popescu: yeah but the interesting thing is to see how they were involved in the early creation of internet protocols
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: plz read log. these are not leaks...
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i get a ballooning all the way to ~23M during first few hours of runtime, where it stays (based on pmap data)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re: which ?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes> why not just rewrite the memory allocation engine at this point, asciilifeform << this is two degrees of magnitude easier, at least.
asciilifeform waits for mircea_popescu to eat the log
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu is awake !
asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/1172660_mem_max.txt
mod6: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/172660_mem_max.txt << 404
asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/1172660_mem_max.txt
asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/1172660_mem_live.txt
mod6: <+ascii_modem> there are no leaks in the usual sense <+ascii_modem> the flat graph from mod6 tells us this << right
mod6: <+ascii_modem> nonono not leaks << ok i see, so with -mp in the MEM_LIVE output we're just seeing a live heap. not leaks as the other doc page said.
mod6: so the docs say, "MEM_LIVE records the ``live'' memory -- memory that hasn't been freed. If the profile statistics file you are processing came from the end
decimation: "MEM_LIVE records the ?live? memory ? memory that hasn?t been freed. If the profile statistics file you are processing came from the end of the application?s run, this will be the memory leaked by the job. If the profile statistics file was triggered during the running of the job, it is a snapshot of the heap, i.e. a heap profile. The statistic is accurate (not statistical) and records the number of bytes allocated and the number of c
mod6: http://thebitcoin.foundation/test/perf/nmon_tests_201505.txt
mod6: !up ascii_modem
mod6: asciilifeform: in the igprof_mem_live output, is the "Total" column in aggregate bytes - a sum of all bytes from the call's of said function?
decimation: http://www.reed.com/blog-dpr/?page_id=6 < "One project where my friend and officemate Steven T. Kent (now chief scientist and vice president at BBN, and a chief advisor to NSA) and I lost was our strong argument to put mandatory end-to-end encryption into TCP (and adaptations of the ideas to UDP-based protocols, such as RTP, hich I worked out but abandoned). "
mod6: <+asciilifeform> re: memory hunger: anyone investigated effect of https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E17076_04/html/api_reference/CXX/envset_memory_max.html ? << I haven't, but I certainly wanna try this out.
assbot: Logged on 28-05-2015 14:52:47; pete_dushenski: "Broadcom is known as a fabless company. It outsources all semiconductor manufacturing to Asian merchant foundries, such as GlobalFoundries, Semiconductor Manufacturing International Corporation, Silterra, TSMC, and United Microelectronics Corporation." << ahaha. so what the fuck did $37 bn even buy ?
mod6: asciilifeform: full sync of bitcoin-v0_5_3_1-RELEASE + { OrphanageBurner } + { TX Orphanage Amputation } underway
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, et al: ^^^^ sample output
asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/blockheight-115500_igprof_mem_live.txt
asciilifeform: 'MEM_LIVE records the “live” memory – memory that hasn’t been freed. If the profile statistics file you are processing came from the end of the application’s run, this will be the memory leaked by the job. If the profile statistics file was triggered during the running of the job, it is a snapshot of the heap, i.e. a heap profile. The statistic is accurate (not statistical) and records the number of bytes allocated a
asciilifeform: other options (e.g., MEM_LIVE) described in manual.
asciilifeform: this gives MEM_TOTAL (how much churned)
asciilifeform: igprof-analyse -d -v -g -r MEM_TOTAL heap1 > heap1.txt
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: your hardware is not the limiting reactant here
mod6: oh, darn. ok im compiling right now with : bitcoin-v0_5_3_1-RELEASE + { OrphanageBurner } + { TX Orphanage Amputation }
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, et al:
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> ben_vulpes: sorta like the proverbial 'jet engine on a ford pinto' situation. << obligatory: http://www.ronpatrickstuff.com/
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, et al: ^^
asciilifeform: re: memory hunger: anyone investigated effect of https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E17076_04/html/api_reference/CXX/envset_memory_max.html ?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, et al: incidentally, even though 'transaction orphanage amputator' may not be a magical pill against oom-on-pogo (my preliminary investigation suggests that it is -not-) it still rips out the idiotic ddos vector that every unbounded cache of anything whatsoever is.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, et al: incidentally, now that we have a bounded memory footprint, it may be time to try running pogo with swap space again
asciilifeform: mike_c: we no longer have orphan (bastard) blocks..
asciilifeform: mike_c: slab only really works when we have a small number of known sizes of object
danielpbarron: !up antonosika_
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: sorta like the proverbial 'jet engine on a ford pinto' situation.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: more seriously, the only kind of allocator that is a sure pill against fragging is a compacting one. which means -relocating- !! just picture this in a cpp proggy not originally designed for it
mod6: <+asciilifeform> ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, et al: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-May/000094.html << wow! nice. will review & start up a test on this later tonight. many thanks. :]
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asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: because the simplest way to get more space, so to speak, in one's house, is to -stop- bringing in and keeping driftwood, dead animals, neighbour's garbage
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu this patch sorta sits right down and has lunch right on top of your 'clean air filter' third rail discussed in c3. but this gordian knot -will- have to be cut one way or another.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, et al: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-May/000094.html
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: it will make sense once you read the patch.
asciilifeform: our 0.5.3.x has MAX_ORPHAN_TRANSACTIONS but the boojum is that a malicious (or 'cosmic rayed') node can transmit orphan transaction of any size, iirc
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, ben_vulpes, mod6, et al: has anyone considered the effect of not storing 'orphan transactions' ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu et al: is anyone interested in seeing the (elementary) 4294967297 proof as a proper article ?
felipelalli: ben_vulpes: congrats man! :)
assbot: Logged on 28-05-2015 16:29:59; ben_vulpes: (it's a boy)
assbot: Logged on 28-05-2015 14:32:02; pete_dushenski: i've never seen so many beautifully preserved copies of literature, philosophy, history, biology, you name it. in german, french, latin, english too
assbot: Logged on 28-05-2015 13:49:33; gabriel_laddel: So, they put up signs warning schoolgirls about being molested on the packed trains, but never put any effort into... putting personal space on the trains or the like.
felipelalli: Finally in English: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/37maml/the_fabulous_bitcoin_island/ - thank you danielpbarron for the help.
mircea_popescu: mike_c omaigerd...
jurov: ben_vulpes: congrats! hope it'll be mangy after the daddy!
mod6: ben_vulpes: congrats!!
mike_c: ben_vulpes: your baby arrived?
mod6: gabriel_laddel: also, it'll get discussed in the Monthly Address.
mod6: <+gabriel_laddel> mod6: Idk what exactly your goals are on your gentoo quest, but have you reached the conclusion that portage is insane and must go? << this project had to take a pause; I need to get some cash together to buy a physical box to put together steps for configuration on real hardware as opposed to aws or other cloud infrastructure. no, for now, I'm trying to stick with a Gentoo-amd64-uclibc-hardened. That's the goal anyway.
gabriel_laddel: !up pete_dushenski
gabriel_laddel: !up pete_dushenski
gabriel_laddel: pete_dushenski: Nope. Consider this a request for a blog post on your travels in these two regions.
pete_dushenski: gabriel_laddel just curious ? have you been to kr and cn as well ?
gabriel_laddel: pete_dushenski: ever been to China or Korea?
gabriel_laddel: pete_dushenski: are you traveling the world, or do you take up residency in these countries from time to time?
gabriel_laddel: !up pete_dushenski
gabriel_laddel: !up pete_dushenski
gabriel_laddel: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women-only_passenger_car#Japan << lol
gabriel_laddel: pete_dushenski: how do the trains compare to your merc?
pete_dushenski: gabriel_laddel ah ok.
gabriel_laddel: pete_dushenski: modular, robotically assembled human habitation
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: it doesn't map to henderson-style 'functional graphics' at all
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: i will also note that i tried the opengl thing, and barfed
pete_dushenski: gabriel_laddel what 'it' were you getting mr. sf-house-builder excited about ?
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: cars (at least of the petrol variety) underground is a ventilation nightmare. use trains, like sane people
gabriel_laddel: pete_dushenski: nah, it was a message to someone on #lisp
pete_dushenski: gabriel_laddel this is the spec/manifesto for BAD ?
gabriel_laddel: pete_dushenski: how I would go about it - pastebin.com/AdTXnKT6
pete_dushenski: gabriel_laddel how does one insert personal space onto an small mountainous island ?
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: they did proclaim female-only train cars iirc
gabriel_laddel: pete_dushenski: ah, but the weird bit is that this is (according to asa akira) the *most common* offense in JP, and happens to a huge percentage of the population.
pete_dushenski: gabriel_laddel it looks effective to me. at least as much as any fuzzy rat puppet (in canada) telling kids not to trust strangers
assbot: Logged on 28-05-2015 11:55:42; mircea_popescu: in other news, http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdd3hurG6I1ri9dzjo1_500.gif
assbot: Logged on 26-05-2015 00:50:22; mircea_popescu: ;;later tell pete_dushenski the funniest part about the medieval japanese cuts is that at the time, bare cunt was the standard there and nowhere else. meanwhile, they have to pixelate it today, lest it jumps out and eats their head or something.
gabriel_laddel: pete_dushenski: you've been to JP?
gabriel_laddel: !up pete_dushenski
gabriel_laddel: hola pete_dushenski
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BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: To be fair in illustrating the US's humiliation over the soccer situation the US's most bezzel'd league had teams selling tickets under five dollars to not fill stadiums in some the same cities soccer was selling out.
mircea_popescu: in other news, http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdd3hurG6I1ri9dzjo1_500.gif ☟︎
BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel: Isn't nubbsy in twodogs land?
BingoBoingo: lol http://www.slate.com/articles/sports/sports_nut/2015/05/fifa_arrests_sepp_blatter_s_organization_might_actually_go_down_thanks_to.html
BingoBoingo: !up gabriel_laddel
assbot: Logged on 28-05-2015 03:26:41; *: asciilifeform spotted a gurl from transylvania today; she worked in a restaurant; queried based on accent, familiar from hanging out with mircea_popescu
BingoBoingo: Linked from fatpeoplehate IRC https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/xo41d/doctorsnursesredditors_what_has_been_your_most/c5o66p2
BingoBoingo: !up diana_coman