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mircea_popescu: and to be told that she's important, and valuable, and remarkable and all the rest of the shit women her age want
asciilifeform: yeah i read this even, but i still don't 'get' it. what does the woman want?
ozbot: Hey, stupid women ? We need to talk. Smart women don’t want to be with you anymore. pe Trilema - U
asciilifeform: i read the first turd, and my puny brain was utterly unable to determine wtf the deal was.
mircea_popescu: too much press, too little olive oil.
mircea_popescu: "A software engineer named Julie Ann Horvath sent shock waves across Silicon Valley over the weekend" = "nobody gave a shit, so we'll just keep yakking about it"
benkay: what happened to manners?
mircea_popescu: i pray they have the wisdom to choose correctly.
mircea_popescu: on the other, total extinction
asciilifeform: http://www.wired.com/business/2014/03/culture-offsets << the loltron continues to chug
asciilifeform: even 'truck loaded with tapes' if low latency is not a critical requirement.
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: No I'm trying to find the link now, it's a really weird little paper that nobody I mention it to has heard of.
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic the tor stuff ?
midnightmagic: where "enough" is smaller than I ever expected it to be
midnightmagic: There is a really neat paper that asserts that if you know "enough" about the edges of a connected graph network and measure the messages, you can map most messages sources.
asciilifeform: as i gather, you'd want to covertly connect two nodes (in 'distant') parts of graph with leased line
mircea_popescu: this'd eminently be one of those asciilifeform "parachute first pls" cases
mircea_popescu: the theoretical possibility still exists, in a variety of very difficult to model variants
midnightmagic: ^^ probably running more-connected nodes than I am.
midnightmagic: bitcoinyeezus: I have heard of them. I have never personally witnessed one happening.
midnightmagic: a bunch of us are trying to connect via non-internet connections to at least measure any attempt at chosen-cut/isolation attacks.
lopp: that's the direction I seem to be headed :-)
bitcoinyeezus: lopp: sit down and figure it out. write it up, post it somewhere. contribute to bitcoin nollij.
lopp: gotcha - I keep hearing that it's trivial but I guess I'd prefer to see actual numbers regarding, say, how many SPV client requests the average node is handling / how many historical block and tx lookups it's handling, how many invalid txs it's deciding not to relay, etc
bitcoinyeezus: we must all be talking past one another today.
mircea_popescu: it's more in terms of security, due to various graph splitting attacks that coudl conceivably be deployed
mircea_popescu: yeah the load isn't really significant
midnightmagic: there is virtually no load. i run an experimental node that deals with a few dozen transactions a day on an eeepc 701 just for fun.
bitcoinyeezus: what does load have to do with anything?
lopp: that is, how much more volume of requests could the average node be handling before it is straining its computational / bandwidth resources
bitcoinyeezus: mircea_popescu only knows that by volume owned statistic because he's actually the owner of the 'satoshi hoard'.
lopp: as yeezus noted, we don't really know enough to say whether or not these numbers should be underwhelming. I'm of the opinion that we don't have enough insight into the load that the nodes are bearing.
lopp: right, it's relatively underwhelming because it used to report > 100,000 nodes
bitcoinyeezus: (just 'cause it has Satoshi in the client string doesn't mean shit about the authors)
artifexd: loop: At the bottom of that page " Bitnodes uses Bitcoin protocol version 70001 (i.e. >= /Satoshi:0.7.x/), so nodes with older protocol version will be skipped."
mircea_popescu: lopp well "nobody" more in the sense of bitcoin owned
midnightmagic: apparently two days to wait to renounce US citizenship was too much for him, cause "they're after me." wtf.
midnightmagic twitches uncontrollably at mention of "bitcoin jesus" down in the Caribbean complaining about how slow it is to open a bank account as a recent import from the US
bitcoinyeezus: well then who can know what the whelmingness of that thinger implies abouty reality anyways?
lopp: only the really nerdy / early bitcoiners from my experience bother running full nodes
lopp: Nobody uses bitcoind > 0.6? Are you saying that http://getaddr.bitnodes.io/dashboard/ is so underwhelming because it's only counting nodes >= 0.7?
mircea_popescu: i only bring gifts to chicks that dress properly.
mircea_popescu: i guess in the end people do suck.
mircea_popescu is kinda surprised nobody claimed to be bitcoin santa.
mircea_popescu: well for further mind blown, consider there's no bitcoin jesus, either o.O
benkay: everyone calling themselves a core dev has hacked on the cpp hairball that turned into 0.7 and then 0.8
hdbuck: what's with MP's statement on twitter saying there is no such thing as Bitcoin core devs?! *mind blown 2*
bitcoinpete: benkay: I coulda sworn I went through that rigamarole once before… hopefully this is the last public flailing
Apocalyptic: bitcoinpete, try ;;everify
benkay: if you want to avoid flailing around in public, you can get down with gribble via pm, bitcoinpete
ThickAsThieves: but ripple never asked you to relinquish your bitcoins to use it
mircea_popescu: heh i guess they covered it by calling it "digital currency"
mircea_popescu: wasn't ethereum more like a new ripple than a new bitcoin ?
mircea_popescu: no because that is actually intended as a chump party.
mircea_popescu: he's seriously wasting his talents in bitcoin
ThickAsThieves: the text was via vitalik
mircea_popescu: there, that should put it in perspective.
ThickAsThieves: other than me
ThickAsThieves: who is constantly trying to look smart while displaying stupidity?
mircea_popescu: let's translate it for a moment.
mircea_popescu: too much describe, and also who are you to make recommendations to people running services ?
mircea_popescu: services to describe at least superficially describe their security policy
mircea_popescu: "both of these figures are reasonable estimates"
asciilifeform: just asking the question is an abuse of statistics
ThickAsThieves: just lookin for some insight on bitcoin, i'll leave the wars to the media
ThickAsThieves: to me it seems that hacking an addy would be even less probable than how this writer has approached it
ThickAsThieves: on the probabilities of a bitcoin wallet being hacked, can any of you review this short text to tell me if it is generally acceptable? http://dpaste.com/1739894/ ☟︎
mircea_popescu: "Some other questions: 1) how naked would you like the models to be?"
artifexd: At least in the reference client.
artifexd: It is named in a comment. Variables don't contain the name.
Dimsler: i dont' think its actually named
ThickAsThieves: but the protocol does call it a satoshi?
artifexd: If you're asking about the code, then the code keeps track of amounts in satoshi. API's accept amounts in satoshi.
mircea_popescu: it should be pretty obvious what the unit of account is.
Dimsler: satoshi as th elowest denomination
Dimsler: denomiations of bitcoin are just that
Dimsler: actually yes that is backwards
mircea_popescu: the satoshi name is not documented, other than through ancient convention
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves the satoshi is quite clearly the only unit of account, a "bitcoin" is just a courtesy style.
Apocalyptic: somehow missed that too
artifexd: There is reference to "satoshi" as the base element in the reference client code. All the code uses satoshi as the amount of accounting.
BingoBoingo: Trolls trolling trolls getting trolls
ozbot: Gym Bro Successfully Gets Fake Feminist Thought Catalog Essay Published
ThickAsThieves: i prefer a response from someone i think knows what;s up
ThickAsThieves: what is the correct answer?
ThickAsThieves: merely if someone asks What is the unit of account in Bitcoin?
Dimsler: microtransactions of that nature aren't possible
Dimsler: i don't think it matters
ThickAsThieves: is there any argument to say they unit of account of Bitcoin is a bitcoin?
mircea_popescu: very dangerous to buy property in non-torens lands. ☟︎☟︎
ThickAsThieves: wow, i didnt know that the owners of about 130,000 properties are without their title deeds in Cyprus
BingoBoingo: Oh, half an hour ago there were still a 300k or so left.
mircea_popescu: no wait, it's been done to death by hand already.
mircea_popescu: someone should make an ipo of a totally insane thing and just keep posting wall of text after wall of text of completely rambling, nonsensically, perhaps machine-generated text whenever someone says something
BingoBoingo: Oh, this dude is still shitting out non-text https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=297334.msg5722587#msg5722587
LordPutin: but we won crimea fair and square, they even voted to join us
mircea_popescu: didn't they call a general mobilisation nobody showed ?
ozbot: Ukrainian government refuses to remove troops from Crimea, prepares for war
ozbot: bitcoinx.com (bitcoinXnews) on Twitter
mircea_popescu: https://twitter.com/bitcoinXnews wait, 2012ish by the twitter they link