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asciilifeform: (fixed-wing drones aren't particularly useful in a city)
decimation: eh, my impression is that they don't enforce traffic from the air much
asciilifeform: don't forget the traffic jobs.
asciilifeform: police choppers don't shoot. (why would they need to ?)
asciilifeform: they aren't getting 'apache', no.
BingoBoingo: Cylinders and shit aren't that hard
asciilifeform missed that one, but doesn't give a fuck
asciilifeform: cisions, they are now gone from OpenBSD. And now they miss it. So now, all these guys who work for the same company have started a fork. And it is directed by the guy who hired them in the first place. From where I stand, that is the truth. Yet none of that is in that article, because the truth hurts, doesn't it guys?"
asciilifeform: There was a discussion about this on the OpenBSD misc mailing archives back in 2012: http://marc.info/?t=133961305400003&r=1&w=2 Theo's initial response to the thread, which may help illuminate the situation, was: "Except for the fact that it is bullshit. They started the fork because they got kicked out because one developer (Marco) hired 5 other developers for his startup company, and attempted to hire around 10 other deve
mircea_popescu: isn't this the guy that's active on like twitter and stuff ?
decimation: re: mechanical fetish << one thing I don't get are mechanical watches, they have poor accuracy
undata: mircea_popescu: does the disease reduce to "can't tell the difference between imagined and perceived"
mircea_popescu: this'd work fine in practice for as long as the martian contraption owner didn't also have a cock
undata: +asciilifeform | why not skip straight to chattel slavery - more honest, makes immediate sense to everybody. << this is "why propaganda?" isn't it
mike_c: thanks. that what google translate said but i didn't know if that was just robot talk.
pete_dushenski: eh i don't mind the crispness in the slightest
pete_dushenski: real rockets don't provide as many hours of entertainment for as many proles
pete_dushenski: if it weren't for "free willy" no one would bother with killer whales, too "mean"
mircea_popescu: hopefully i'll get a price per head, so i won't have to pay per pound.
pete_dushenski: then, while they're there, buy something they didn't need
undata: same chick threatened me with airborne ebola once; I didn't bother to find out whether she was serious
mircea_popescu: ndata> it wouldn't mount /home for example << prolly home didn't have the right pid.
BingoBoingo: And don't boohoo about X "needing" root without sytemd, because http://www.xenocara.org/ has done that for some time
undata: it wouldn't mount /home for example
undata: I tried systemd and bizarre breakage occurred which I couldn't be bothered to debug
undata: I like the idea of declarative config, knowing dependencies and whatnot; upstart doesn't seem too onerous to me
assbot: Portland http://t.co/vd3jRdMxqL
punkman: yeah because mexicans ain't heard of indoor growing
nubbins`: am i not allowed to down him becaause assbot hasn't refreshed the trust list?
mats_cd03: your part of the well isn't the only spot in town, you know
mircea_popescu: davout: cazalla: i don't even get why they feel the need to talk about bitcoin << virgins also feel a need to talk about the cock.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony: I can't believe in 2014 we have GoDaddy leading the way in managed DNSSEC and Facebook leading the way in correct Tor hosting for clearnet sites <<< bwahaaha this IS a fucking point. and it goes on : microsoft leading the way for linux, on it goes.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony: that fuckwit infosec "expert" that's helping them irritates me <<< i don't recall an infosec expert of the webz that wasn't a sort of "assigned female at birth genderqueer individual".
mircea_popescu: instead it's "now it's not volatile so not interesting anymore, can't use".
mircea_popescu: decimation: eh, flat makes those famed 'afraid of volatility' types happy <<< yet for every 500 guys that went "o bitcoin i can not use it is too volatile" for 3 years going, you don't hear as many as .5 guys today "o, now i can use it"
davout: cazalla: i don't even get why they feel the need to talk about bitcoin
fluffypony: I can't believe in 2014 we have GoDaddy leading the way in managed DNSSEC and Facebook leading the way in correct Tor hosting for clearnet sites
punkman: you don't want to be carrying too much stuff
punkman: !t m s.mpoe
mircea_popescu: why not charge 100 for a thing that doesn't work, so suckerlifeform can buy 20 ?
decimation: Jesus isn't a lie!
asciilifeform: i don't even grasp why a wireless to ethernet bridge needs to be a computer, with stateful memory and an os
asciilifeform: decimation: i don't run an isp, or a dc, don't care one whit for optimizations
asciilifeform: i don't even know what is more enraging - the sc4mz0r manufacturer, or all the shitmonkeys who claim to have 'fixed'
asciilifeform didn't watch him sleep, but believes
mircea_popescu: what "in power" is this where you can't fucking sleep ?
mircea_popescu: the cause, outside of drugs, is that they don't get any sleep.
mircea_popescu: you know, the ones that don't pop, for whose benefit the entire thing is made.
decimation: aren't chinese a big part of the sg population now?
BingoBoingo: !t n s.appl
joecool: mircea_popescu: it doesn't matter too much though, i like this channel
asciilifeform does not remember source of this tale, don't ask
mircea_popescu: well... colonostomy bags aren't any fun.
decimation: it would be nearly unbelievable if usg weren't involved
mircea_popescu: srsly, you can't plug it in because it's reverse threaded ?!
asciilifeform: i mean, back to the story, all i had to do is reach across desk and grab a ttl serial octopus. but what are folks supposed to do who don't have one?
decimation: the FCC demands that you reverse thread the connector so you couldn't plug your 1 watt router into a 30 dB amplifier
decimation: everyone can tell themselves that they couldn't possibly buy a reverse-thread sma connector
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but you can't run it because bus speed right ?
BingoBoingo would probably keep his own insulin pig as well, can't judge
asciilifeform: one of these days i buy something that doesn't have to be vivisected to make it go.
asciilifeform: decimation: i can't possibly guess
BingoBoingo: Isn't off topic what's been sustaining it these last few years, and even off topic still makes a case for loper
mircea_popescu: fuck em. they don't get to say what the topic is.
asciilifeform: lol. i suppose my site can't get any more off topic than already is.
mircea_popescu: if it doesn't work, all the redder.
mircea_popescu: gernika not just, but sure. also, i don't care about form. if meditation works all the better.
gernika: mircea_popescu are you referring to logical fallacies by 'modes of logical failure'? Also, by learning to control your emtions, I assume you don't mean learning to meditate.
asciilifeform: training to think consists of pure 'don't do's? news to me.
mircea_popescu: the difference is that the first's entirely negative (don't do this. don't do that. don't do the other. do something) while the latter's entirely positive. (do like this and like this and so on)
mircea_popescu: the important parts aren't visible.
mircea_popescu: same thing, for the exact reason you don't see much reading on tv.
mircea_popescu: just, much and important don't map.
mircea_popescu: because well, they don't get wtf french is.
mircea_popescu: kind bad example cause didn't we discuss this here earlier ?
mircea_popescu: but you're not free, being alive, and in that bound system you don't actually get enough elbow room to really find out.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i'll bet you you couldn't discern between a well trained and an intelligent creature.
asciilifeform: i'll volunteer that i can't easily lust over any creature detectably stupider than self.
TomServo: mircea_popescu: Due to a lack of beatings, I haven't yet learned Romanian.
mircea_popescu: you don't graduate from reality.
decimation: "The way you talk about superintelligence reminds me a lot about how medieval theologians talked about God. It's unbounded. It can do anything. Except maybe created a rock so heavy it can't move it. Has anyone ever made that observation to you, and what's your reaction to that? Guest: I think you might be the first, at least that I can remember. Russ: Hmmm."
mircea_popescu: just like rusted razors aren't programmable.
mircea_popescu: yes, but because of networking effects this isn't useful.
mircea_popescu: TomServo the theory is that you don't get that advanced human in any unverse that doesn't include beating as a possibility.
TomServo: I guess I don't understand why a beating is necessary when you have a sufficiently advanced human capable of reasoning. Help me out?
mircea_popescu: i dunno what's more insulting than the plain declaration that "[i really don't care enough about you to be bothered to] ever beat you"
mircea_popescu: it's like the nukes exactly. kids that know they can't EVER get in trouble grow up with various mental illnesses. kids that grow up knowing they could easily get in trouble grow up fine, and generally don't need to be beaten either.
TomServo: But shouldn't a citizen also be capable of finding a wife that doesn't require a sucker punch?
mircea_popescu: why shouldn't people who want to stay outside of scrutiny be able to ?
mircea_popescu: decimation yes, but you know exactly why it won't happen.
undata: I don't see how that's better
undata: BlueMeanie4: gun control, but they also ship people around so they don't have a group that's entirely from one state
mircea_popescu: <undata> making pizzas << aaaand whose brilliant idea is that "we don't need industry, we can grow rich by doing each other's laundry" ?
BlueMeanie4: in most american cities, esp. most black neighborhoods they wouldn't dare remove the police
mircea_popescu: slaves don't get to stand their ground, they get to scurry away and seek help.
mircea_popescu: here's a simple reform idea : take guns away from police. because government employees are slaves, and slaves don't belong carrying arms. that's for citizens only.
mats_cd03: earthquakes don't have anything to do with governance
BlueMeanie4: California in particular is going to be a huge mess. they can't pay their bills esp pensions and social services, politicians keep passing the buck
undata: I don't buy that our primary enemy isn't our own CIA.
mircea_popescu: but i shan't be denied again.