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hanbot: Anduck: why so hostile? << stop interpreting gracious attempts to refine your idiocy into something usable as "hostile". people who don't make things as easy as possible for you aren't your enemies, they're your teachers. refusing to engage in the lesson ensures you'll stay comfortably stupid.
rdymac: I don't sign binaries
mircea_popescu: which'd be, "it's good like holy water. it doesn't fix anything, it doesn't break anything"
assbot: No, our Twitter account hasn't been hacked. This is Thomas V. I'm just voicing my opinions. After all, this is twitter...
mircea_popescu: what they're actually saying is, "you'd never pay for us to do things you don't want done but we do, so gotta force you to pay". which proper restatement of the argument is of course too plain for their taste.
mircea_popescu: and you're telling me the local school or w/e couldn't, IF IT WERE ANY USEFUL.
mircea_popescu: you know, reading on this people's temple thing... the general pro-state argument is that o noes, donation powered police department and government generally "wouldn't work" because "people won't pay, gotta tax!"
fluffypony: yeah so obviously whoever is controlling the Twitter account at the moment can't sign a message as any of those three
fluffypony: I haven't seen the tweet, but in the Electrum source in pubkeys/ there are a bunch of GPG keys
fluffypony: also verifying you are who you say you are through GPG isn't related to the WoT
rdymac: can't connect his twitter with his nick here, so dunno who he is
decimation: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-10-2014#892617 << us prisoners aren't so lucky ☝︎
undata: can't have people just selling things... on the street!
cazalla: https://twitter.com/ElectrumWallet/status/541420975716597760 dats racist, don't use electrum!
ben_vulpes: i can't help but think that the serial download is entirely unnecessary.
mircea_popescu: anyway, they don't speed up the download per se, because blocks are still downloaded
ben_vulpes: if i'm reading this correctly, checkpoints speed up the blockchain download process as signatures aren't checked, but they're assumed valid if the signature on the checkpoint blocks passes.
mircea_popescu: doesn't, really. just, slower.
ben_vulpes: --nocheckpoints Disable built-in checkpoints. Don't do this unless you know what you're doing.
decimation: so, it's just a telephone on a wall? I don't get it
mircea_popescu: as tlp would say, "don't change the system, just shuffle among its offerings"
mircea_popescu: what about when groups of friends go camping and some douche never buys anything ? doesn't last long does it ?
decimation: isn't an income tax a tariff on labor trade?
mircea_popescu: decimation wasn't exactly a secret, that.
cazalla: ah, i don't recall that but no matter
assbot: $296M in Bitcoin spending on Black Friday and Cyber Monday made it the 9th largest payment network in the world! http://t.co/jlTVDinyZf
mircea_popescu: "oh, setting our house on fire doesn't work ? I KNOW! let's set the house on fire WITH GASOLINE!"
Namworld: My darn cat just opens cupboard and so on and claws bag open to eat pastas and so on... I'll need big plastic container to store pasta and so on in accessible locations, and keep the rest in places he can't get in.
gernika: I was able to collect email addresses via a signup page running an FB campaign at one time. Don't recall the conversion percentage at the moment but at that time at least there were real people clicking.
mircea_popescu: Namworld can you be bothered to run a similar thing for me ? it's been half a year since i last tried them, moar lulz can't hurt.
punkman: I don't think Stellar was ever decentralized. They just had more than one server.
asciilifeform: first comment in above link has it: 'How'd you centralize your decentralized system? It sounds like something that shouldn't be possible unless it's actually centralized to begin with.'
Namworld: It might be that facebook ad bots don't tend to have Bitcoin in their interest... at least yet. Hence why demographic looks accurate.
Namworld: Eh, $50 for the heck of it and there was actually sales, but I didn't put a tracking link so hard to say. I have to change that immediately.
Namworld: The demographic isn't as random as I'd usually see, it's 66% males between 18-35
gernika: The world doesn't work like that here.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> reading for the first time about 'joyent', i couldn't help but wonder - what are these 'technologies' actually for? if they were erased from the good earth overnight, would i notice ? <<< if node.js were erased you would notice.
mircea_popescu: gernika this wouldn't be something called Room77 ?
asciilifeform: or one minute to think whether what they say makes any sense, that Henry Ford, the American entrepreneur whose worldview wouldn't probably stand much scrutiny from the modern perspective, gained his place in the canon of progressive feelgood policies for paying his workers the back then unheard-of high daily salary of $5, which made them wealthy enough to buy Ford automobiles, which in turn made the Ford company profitable.' (
asciilifeform: reading for the first time about 'joyent', i couldn't help but wonder - what are these 'technologies' actually for? if they were erased from the good earth overnight, would i notice ?
asciilifeform can't shake the feeling, reading this crud, that it was all an elaborate joke, and the punchline is to be read out soon
undata: and the gigs aren't even real gigs
decimation: asciilifeform: doesn't it feel like a cargo cult around an os that was handed down by betters?
undata: you didn't build that money meaning.
mircea_popescu: "@KristianOellegaard this isn't an issue of breaking or following the rules, it's an issue of doing the right thing and common sense. This situation is about people, not code."
mircea_popescu: no, it wouldn't be.
assbot: Don't Take Your Guns to Town - Johnny Cash & Willie Nelson - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1s3FV7Q )
mircea_popescu: AS IF the von flondor process won't see through that
decimation: right, but the guy wasn't an employee of joyent
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Apparently but this isn't http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2014/12/05/st-louis-police-investigating-possible-hate-crime-in-bevo-neighborhood/
asciilifeform: who doesn't speak the language - can enjoy the photos.
mircea_popescu: wasn't there some massive thing with that game
mats_cd03: can't afford to pay to be laughed at by a judge
undata: that wouldn't surprise me
jurov: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2odray/distributed_markets_for_drone_operators/ << i don't see how this ever can go wrong
mircea_popescu: (if you don't recall her, the girl with the wooden block up her cunt from just-dice)
mircea_popescu: mats_cd03 wasn't that sometime in 2011 ?
nubbins`: as if two wasn't enough
cazalla: don't they have a bitcoin embassy in ar?
mircea_popescu: mats_cd03: what a useless discussion of trust <<< that's what fucking happens with noobs ALL THE DAMNED TIME. But they know better! But why won't people who do thinks professionally consider their input! But amateurism is a do-ocracy! But reasons! But considerations! But he's not read five years of tardstalk so five years of tardstalk has never happened. Let's do it again!
mircea_popescu: badon: But I don't trade bitcoin, I have no need of gribble. << lmao
mats_cd03: i thought it'd get better, but it didn't, just one guy derping
BingoBoingo: No, it doesn't but what else is there?
badon: BingoBoingo: That helps, but I don't think it helps as much as everyone wishes it did.
badon: Vexual: You misunderstand, I'm saying I DON'T want to quantify people, because it's impossible.
Vexual: you won't find many connable people here
BingoBoingo: A person's a shithead or they aren't. If they aren't a shithead there's going to be qualitative reasons why they aren't a shithead.
punkman: also if by "formal contract" you mean that thing with 50 pages some lawyers drafted, yeah we don't usually like those either.
BingoBoingo: <badon> My experience has been that these trust models are useless. They're better than complete anonymity, because they end up having some practical monetary value, but the abuse of the trust always eventually becomes more profitable than honoring the trust. Therefore, if I don't trust you, I don't care what your PGP key says. << Trust isn't a point system though, it is a name system.
BingoBoingo: <badon> If someone betrays my trust, I can't punch them in the head with their PGP public key. << You can effectively indict them with the text they've signed
badon: Otherwise, no one would approach them. VC's don't normally solicit businesses to invest in them.
badon: If someone betrays my trust, I can't punch them in the head with their PGP public key.
badon: In fact, my business style is to be suspicious of anyone who insists on formal contracts. If they don't trust me, I don't want to do business with them, and vice versa.
badon: My experience has been that these trust models are useless. They're better than complete anonymity, because they end up having some practical monetary value, but the abuse of the trust always eventually becomes more profitable than honoring the trust. Therefore, if I don't trust you, I don't care what your PGP key says.
badon: I can't think of anything.
BingoBoingo: I don't really know how you are being prevented. You joined and a person voiced you, right?
BingoBoingo: I didn't make the system, I just join it
midnightmagic: nickserv is broken anyway and doesn't have static identity
badon: But I don't trade bitcoin, I have no need of gribble.
asciilifeform: can't solder'em
Vexual: i don't know much about electronics, but fuck i go thruogh some hookup wire
mircea_popescu: and ftr, last time we did wags and it didn't work out
Vexual: "I certainly don't want anyone mining technology ... away from my control" <<this would sound more intelligent if he was stuttering
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform would hold that "it doesn't work".
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: can't really see anything like that working anywhere near the speed of sound.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: "dragonflies" << well who doesn't love excellent cruising performance *and* agility?!
decimation: interesting I didn't know that
mircea_popescu: isn't jp-4 the thing that gets a lot of static if it flows ?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: So, a lawyer is inquiring what my hourly rate is as an expert witness... What does everyone else charge? << go for 40. too low you won't seem that expert. too high they'll just get antonoderp.
mircea_popescu: the sort you can't do anything with but that's ok.
decimation: but then again, it's not like flying wings are unknown to aircraft designers. I wonder why they aren't more popular
ben_vulpes: decimation: bang bang pneumatic valves aren't terribly hard to put together.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: answer then (i haven't any idea) - why is 'vtol' uncommon today ?
decimation: isn't that kinda what the f-117 does
Vexual: fair answer, they weren't expecting it
asciilifeform: china answered: 'we aren't a d3m0cr4cy111!11, we don't stockpile instruments of crowd control, we're a poor country and prioritize useful things'
decimation: with enough raw thrust, aerodynamics don't matter, can dance your vectoring fighter jet tango-style
Vexual: asciilifeform: is it beacuse they didn't have swarms of irritant devlivery drones?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: indignant (spontaneously or compensated, either) foreigners asked, 'why didn't you tase them, use tear gas'
asciilifeform: can't loiter