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mod6: yeah, your hand got away from you and knocked over a glass, which promptly went into Mr. P.'s lap.
davout: mircea_popescu: i didn't "pour a bottle on your head", i accidentally'd a wine ~glass~, at least that's what i remember!
mod6: yeah, same. maybe he'll be back when he has a bit more time.
asciilifeform: i miss mike_c , he was a solid d00d.
mod6: Or at least, iirc we talked about it for a bit.
mod6: Got to talk with chetty a good long while this evening too.
mircea_popescu: until a few years ago i still had stacks of those
mircea_popescu: coming soon to a govt accounting office near you.
asciilifeform: hey if boeing can count an instance of asciilifeform-shown-737-ad as $737price*$p-of-him-buying, and they also get to imagine that the latter is a positive number, >0, then gdp can be trillion!!!1
asciilifeform: it is a lol, picture if you searched 'boeing 737' one time, and then every ad you see after that is for buying one
deedbot hands you a broomstick.
asciilifeform: this must've happened at a parallel-c3
danielpbarron: indiancandy, eulora is a program you can run on windows and effectively use as a bitcoin wallet, without having to mess around with the block chain directly
mircea_popescu: davout knows, he poured a wine bottle on my head there for some reason.
indiancandy: i kno a blonde
indiancandy: u a guy
jurov: i would if you were a boy model :)
danielpbarron: you should get into Eulora. that's a great easy way to hold btc
indiancandy: need a teacher
asciilifeform: wtf is a shrude?!
mircea_popescu: there's a bunch of camho sites that will pay you in bitcoin too i think
indiancandy: so im thinkin of buyin a few hundred pounds
indiancandy: due to a site crashing
indiancandy: a month ago
asciilifeform: this has ~gotta~ be a spoof...
mircea_popescu: (a properly functioning woman is only distinct from a fighter-bomber in that she eats better smelling fuel. everything else -- same, fired from own hangar or boat, virtually undetectable en route, leaves behind trail of devastation etc.)
a111: Logged on 2017-01-11 19:10 asciilifeform: incidentally if this were me, i'd make a voyage-only wot key, rate it +1, then at the end, when getting back to home, sign statement 'my voyage key was uneventfully used N times and then incinerated' or 'pygmies stole my voyage key K and signed audacious forgeries F1, F2...' depending on how it went.
davout: asciilifeform phf thanks! i'll look into it, gonna start with clhs until i get back to a country where amazon delivers
phf: typically people recommend http://www.gigamonkeys.com/book/ and it's a sort of "rails for beginners" kind of book, but i think best cl option is http://www.norvig.com/paip.html. norvig's paradigms of artificial intelligence programming. it's not so much about "ai", but about some very useful symbolic algorithms, written in ~very elegant~ lisp code
asciilifeform: incidentally if this were me, i'd make a voyage-only wot key, rate it +1, then at the end, when getting back to home, sign statement 'my voyage key was uneventfully used N times and then incinerated' or 'pygmies stole my voyage key K and signed audacious forgeries F1, F2...' depending on how it went. ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: hey it ain't a hygienic box regardless of what you do or do not put in the holes.
asciilifeform: btw if you're going off on a voyage, afaik you can just as easily stick a gsm card in that slot
asciilifeform: iirc he had a place.
phf: 2 hours of battery is a bit sad, but i'm not planning on "working from a coffee shop" either
phf: yeah, i'm just building a typing laptop. probably going to take it to india with me instead of main machine. can't really afford getting it stolen, and don't want to bother with proper compartmentalization
asciilifeform: (going to tft from ips is a little like shitting in a hole you dug yourself, after lifetime of indoor plumbing)
asciilifeform: but i also can't recommend a better, all else equal, lappy.
asciilifeform: phf: i'm not a raving fan of the x60 -- can barely stand looking at the tft lcd.
asciilifeform: the vendor even flew in a flunkie
asciilifeform: phf: believe or not, asciilifeform sat on a jury once where 100% of the evidence was the computrace nonsense ☟︎
phf: "The system works by periodically reporting back to a central authority. In the event of theft, the central authority can instruct the resident agent to wipe all information as a security measure, or to track the whereabouts of the system, to help recover the stolen items via subsequent law enforcement activities"
asciilifeform: if you get a half-size card, you oughta also get the aluminum extender clip. (about $1)
asciilifeform: it was a disaster, as documented here.
phf: ooh a patched on.. i take it you hand patched it, rather than compile from some leaked source?
asciilifeform: aaaaalso iirc you gotta rip out the intel wifi nic and (optionally) put in a normal-people (e.g., atheros) one
asciilifeform: also there is a script for getting the weirdo buttons on that machine to work, but it isn't original to me, and can be found elsewhere.
phf: excellent, thank you very much. that just saved me a day's worth of upfront poking
asciilifeform: will take a few min to get it out.
phf: asciilifeform: do you happen to have a pruned config for linux kernel on x60?
asciilifeform: in other 'news', 'DESIGN WITH PURPOSE, CREATE WITH PASSION There’s a reason why Altium Designer has a new license activated every hour, every day.'
mircea_popescu: i'm also vaguely curious which 2nd rate herp is going to, in a decade or two, "innovatively" write down "his" ideas about the new novel and the future of authorship.
mircea_popescu: the "authorship" bullshit / englithment fiction really went as far as it could go. in fact, a lot further than it should have ever went.
mircea_popescu: in any case should be interesting once the v model takes hold for novel-writing, and no novel is anything but what it was meant to be : a tree.
mircea_popescu: which means you'll end up with a complicated pile of cutters servicing one photoghrapher.
asciilifeform: well that's why you do a cratefull, not 1 die.
mircea_popescu: ah like a polisher. mebbe. it will necessarily move some of the unerlying though.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there's good physics why you can't have a reliable microtome.
Framedragger: (iirc i had suggested elena (2011) but iirc it's of a similar colour palette hmh)
asciilifeform: ic reversers sweat over cauldrons of hot acids, fiddle with ion beams, etc. but: one thing i've always wondered re subj is whether anybody's tried... microtome! then you dun care how many layers there are, and of what. just blast away the edge, and scan THAT! a few 100 atoms at a time.
Framedragger: "singles are given 45 days to find a romantic partner or otherwise be turned into animals."
mircea_popescu: very nice two-year-apart binome of a) girl wanna-be woman in the ustardian vein ; b) girl recounting (retardedly) the failure of the attempt.
mircea_popescu: anyway the historical http://trilema.com/2010/femeia-nesuferita/ should prolly be read in tandem with http://trilema.com/2012/oameni-de-a-caror-nefericire-ma-bucur/
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski in the end, i wrote a continuation to hanbot 's thing.
asciilifeform: the other obviously spiffy direction is the man-machine pair. a la auto racing.
asciilifeform: see also the alphago thread (it was difficult to mistake the thing for a meat player)
a111: Logged on 2017-01-11 14:15 mircea_popescu: the reason playing loose works in poker is the same reason you can keep a camp dormful of teenage girls awake until 6am by hiding a tape with giggles on it that plays every 5 to 10 minutes
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-11#1601428 << poker 'solving' ai per se is ~uninteresting. the genuinely nifty thing would be a 'realistic humanlike' (e.g., 'loose') player. ☝︎
Framedragger: anything related in topic/matter to http://trilema.com/2014/peri-metaphyseos-in-english-this-time/ ? (i don't have anything particular in mind, just a vague suggestion-of-direction)
mircea_popescu: sooo, i feel like translating ; anyone has a trilema piece they've been wanting in english ?
mircea_popescu: lol ok. so make a key then.
asdfhasdjklf: don't have PGP, so not a person
mircea_popescu: the reason playing loose works in poker is the same reason you can keep a camp dormful of teenage girls awake until 6am by hiding a tape with giggles on it that plays every 5 to 10 minutes ☟︎
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski ftr, poker needs no such thing as "ai". poker is a deterministic game if you wish, can program machine to play extremely tight, will beat most humans.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-10 02:39 phf: i once read grothendieck's récoltes et semailles, which is a kind of an autobiography
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-10#1600064 << pretty cool. did you read it in french? is it full of musings about god (he did get a bit.. hallucinatory-mystical towards end of life, right?) ☝︎
davout: mitm-as-a-service was gag order'd since 2013. such surprise. https://blog.cloudflare.com/cloudflares-transparency-report-for-second-half-2016-and-an-additional-disclosure-for-2013-2/
pete_dushenski: runs on a single nvidia geforce gtx 1080 too
pete_dushenski: 'deepstack' be his name, poker be his game. smashed a couple dozen pros over 44k hands. some recognisable pro names even.
pete_dushenski: speaking of better than average ai, looks like some boys from the u of a cracked heads-up no-limit texas https://arxiv.org/pdf/1701.01724v2.pdf
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: musta been one of those new-fangled volvos/ford/hondas/mercs that stops for you. lucky you. a family friend's grandson wasn't so lucky when he was backed over and killed by... his own grandfather. couple years ago now.
ben_vulpes: i had nfi what joy could be had watching people play with a toy you made out of two tin cans and a string
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in "she's just a friend, honey" news, http://68.media.tumblr.com/5392ecbc77698966bcdb0f4744218983/tumblr_o1yfuvZZxI1rwxb4zo1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: but the solution of course would be, i'll register a key for it and have it speak the !!v string.
mircea_popescu: her lust is a little loose.
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/11BBA2D9CC87A30CB7B689112D36346DFDE132BFCDF14126E7CF3DE55A3A001F << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1716...6213 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '159.90.200.149 (ssh-rsa key from 159.90.200.149 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (dhcp.sos.dst.usb.ve. VE A)
asciilifeform: (correction: that was a ~fuse~ rom, not anti...)
asciilifeform: the one 'republican ic' i would immediately put into production if i had a fab, is the humble antifuse rom !
asciilifeform: '50 years from now we'll probably still have a working PDP-1, but sadly not too many working HP-35 calculators.'
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in a parking lot, http://68.media.tumblr.com/db7850be993d52a32e2d38aa19a4f01d/tumblr_o1xy6rHHK91u0i0qzo1_1280.jpg
asciilifeform: (at some point possibly we add a button that lets folx download privkeys for these!)
asciilifeform: www.appgate.com >> 'AppGate provides a new security model for today's perimeterless IT landscape' << lel
asciilifeform: http://cesga.es >> 'A propuesta de la Comisión de Igualdad del CESGA , el pasado miércoles 21 de diciembre en reunión del personal del CESGA, se aprobó por unanimidad la implantación de un Protocolo de Prevención e Actuación frente al Acoso Sexual o por Razón de Sexo. Dicho documento incluye una serie de medidas que tienen como objeto la prevención, información, sensibilización, formación y asesoramiento en materia de aco
asciilifeform expected a BingoBoingo monstrosity behind the link, no dice
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu had a mega-point though: from above it is clear that w.europe's linux uptake was, approx., == debian uptake.
asciilifeform: it was never any mystery which ones these'd be, if you see a prime factor ~1/2 the length of the modulus... it's a loose end.
mircea_popescu: so in the end a few dozen ? 100s ?
mircea_popescu: phf my reasoning was, that he was having a meaningless dispute with ben_vulpes ; possibly understood it to be meaningless ; and possibly therefore attempted to go upnode. that the selection of upnode wasn't judicious can't be held against him specifically because no standing.
asciilifeform: phf, ben_vulpes : actually i did harbor a suspicion that it was... ben_vulpes's eliza!
phf: aying. first of all, you don't use setup question technique unless you have standing, it's at least partially rhetorical. second of all, when you do, you don't drag it out. i dismissed him at that point as a tedious bore, which he turned out to be
phf: well, he opened with a "scale issue", but when started getting concrete answers from ben_vulpes "backtracked" but doing one of those setup questions, "do you believe in freedom?" sort of thing. ben_vulpes refused to eat the bait. that's where you either switch tactic or close the setup "well, if you believe in freedom then you obviously believe in bombing them sons of bitches". but instead of closing he started nitpicking whatever ben_vulpes was s