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mircea_popescu: "At least MP is an asshole equally to everyone, there is some amount of credibility in that."
asciilifeform: so perhaps i'll teach the penal battalion.
mircea_popescu: A revealing exchange about an exchange that isn't revealing?
asciilifeform: people have said to me that my teaching anything would qualify as cruel and unusual punishment
BingoBoingo: I've always wondered why more marksmanship classes aren't taught with a mirrored target
asciilifeform: people teaching everything from number theory to marksmanship complain about this.
asciilifeform: grls have this thing that they do, where they pretend to make you teach them maths, but they just pulsate
BingoBoingo: Ah, isn't that kind of the operation you are running atm?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well, if you need a trained Librarian.
asciilifeform: quite a few of us here could probably teach.
mircea_popescu: maybe. too much hassle so far, and who'd teach
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I dunno if you've answered yet, but what are the plans for MP University? http://trilema.com/2014/fata-morgana-ii-or-dont-you-just-hate-it-when-you-come-up-with-an-idea-and-a-title-and-then-discover-you-need-an-introduction-which-keeps-swelling-so-eventually-youre-stuck-publishing-it-as-a-sta/
mircea_popescu: people need to grow up already.
dexX7: "Why is Havelock Investments in the SEC's crosshairs? I made an account with them, but never bought anything. Should I be worried?" "Can you get in trouble for just a few mBTC?" ...
asciilifeform: i'm already signed up to be gassed at nsa, sec will have to wait in line.
dexX7: wow.. some people can turn everything into fud: "If you have ownership of BTC-denominated securities such as those traded on Havelock or MPEx (such as NEOBEE, S.DICE, S.MPOE, etc.) now would be a good time to talk to a lawyer."
dexX7: someone here from http://satoshibox.com/? add the option to add a file hash/signature or whatever
ozbot: AbsoluteZero2 comments on MP was approached by the SEC about Bitcoin exchanges; handled it very prof
nubbins`: are there any other OOP rags looking to make a comeback?
nubbins`: "I heard that Leah McGrath Goodman is writing an article that proves that "Mircea Popescu" is in fact Erik Voorhees."
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: tyvm!
BingoBoingo: I thought that was related to http://yro.slashdot.org/story/14/03/19/1218252/full-disclosure-security-list-suspended-indefinitely
artifexd: Is it irony that #netsec was hacked?
nubbins`: i thought that was just the name of a miles davis song D:
nubbins`: i just asked google what time it is and it says "yesternow"
nubbins`: created a time paradox
kakobrekla: i didnt know we support bets that long lel
mircea_popescu: i;kk be sure to look
chetty: oct 2015 - thats more than 1 year ...
Duffer1: more americans thoroughly unaware of their complete irrelevance
BCB: mircea_popescu: I'd be standing in the crowd during your perp walk
mircea_popescu: BCB well so then how would we meed in this counterfactual future you propose ?
asciilifeform: (we don't even know if he leases the bear, or keeps it on retainer, or it lives in his bed)
BCB: asciilifeform: they don't need a trial. Just and indictment
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform sucks for the us.
asciilifeform: the trial is about as likely as mr. putin personally hand-feeding preet bharara to bear
Duffer1: lmao reminds me of some of the reddit comments about the trilema article
BCB: mircea_popescu: I don't think you'll have a choice in the matter.
mircea_popescu: BCB well cause i don't intend to visit the us till they dissolve the homeland security crap and put the people responsible on trial.
BCB: mircea_popescu: SEC will fly you on their private jet
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/propositions/ vs http://bitbet.us/bet/791/s-mg-above-2x-par-on-october-1st-2015/ -- year changed from 2014 to 2015, what gives!
nubbins`: but i don't want that bet
kakobrekla: nubbins` it seems bet was altered by the mods
asciilifeform: 'endless war and endless underfeeding for the sake of war, slave populations toiling behind barbed wire, women dragged shrieking to the block, cork-lined cellars where the executioner blows your brains out from behind. So it appears that amputation of the soul isn't just a simple surgical job, like having your appendix out. The wound has a tendency to go septic.' (orwell's 'notes on the way')
BCB: asciilifeform: cork-lined - they are actually cement
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: nope, the other kind.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Is the cellar a wine cellar?
nubbins`: that's actually not the bet i submitted
asciilifeform: BCB: would you personally travel to a place where there's a cork-lined cellar waiting for you?
BCB: mircea_popescu: why's that?
mircea_popescu: bcb that may take a while.
nubbins`: house bet there too
BCB: mircea_popescu: I want to meet you when you come to New York.
nubbins`: they should really note that somewhere on the page
mircea_popescu: carsam type in the lower box to talk
BingoBoingo: electrocuting someone in the throes of Delirium tremens wouldn't be sporting at all
BingoBoingo: Then again the street drunk would need to be drunk to enjoy this protection
mircea_popescu: who am i to argue.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Ethanol is a crude anti-convulsant and is rather neuroprotective against these things.
novusordo: mircea_popescu: yeah, I looked at the CSS because I thought it was a fall-back font
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: But it took so much more electricity to electricute the first street drunk verus than the first idiot
asciilifeform: i recall reading that it caused great public wankage at the time
asciilifeform: people don't seem to grasp the fact that the situation in 'shall be delivered' is as inevitable as that first street drunk who electrocuted himself in the 1870s (?) ☟︎
novusordo: comic sans blog title.
novusordo: until recently, I'd never visited trilema.com on a windows machine
asciilifeform: i think it was 'stare decisis'
asciilifeform: meatspace courts are supposed to operate on principle of 'least astonishment' (someone cough up the right term plz) ?
mircea_popescu: this, however, is a head of the hydra burried for another two decades.
mircea_popescu: btc will pose some very srious problems to legal systems based on caselaw, perhaps enough so to make them unworkable in practice
mircea_popescu: very theoretically.
asciilifeform: arguably any case involving stolen btc could, theoretically, bake crypto-signature precedent
mircea_popescu: in which case the judge'd definitely see through the pgp.
mircea_popescu: most cases are testamentary contestations
mircea_popescu: for what it's worth the opinions i have re likely romanian court reaction would be that should a signature be repudiated you have about 2:3 chances to get the judge to process the pgp part of the text.
asciilifeform: but, IANAL, and not sure how settled the case law is.
asciilifeform: i vaguely recall that pgp 'counts' in the usa
mircea_popescu: certainly ample space for that, sure.
asciilifeform: sure, but in the 'microscope is backwards-compatible with hammer' sense.
mircea_popescu: you can trivially print out gpg signed contracts, sign on the paper, and register them
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what's the princeling to do with it ?
asciilifeform: if your local princeling believes pgp to be the work of satan
BingoBoingo: ;;google the drinking record digital signatures
mircea_popescu: three years later they're still the standard in practice
gribble: PGP/GPG Guide | Bingo Blog: <http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/pgpgpg-guide/>; Signature Thursday: Geany a GUI text editor for GPG tasks | Bingo ...: <http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2013/10/31/signature-thursday-geany-a-gui-text-editor-for-gpg-tasks/>; Contact and Credentials | Bingo Blog: <http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/contact-and-credentials/>
BingoBoingo: ;;google the drinking record GPG
BingoBoingo: Eh, Maybe I'll find out about Missouri's version of this thing in time. Jefferson city is a more pleasant drive than Springfield anyways
mircea_popescu: didn't bingo write something about that ?
nubbins`: surely there's an article written on this, anyone got a title handy??
nubbins`: [14:50:31] <Inkata> can anyone point me to a modern way to sign contracts? real-life contracts with crypto?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo clearly they're stonewalling you
BingoBoingo: I still can't believe Illinois did not invite me to their hearing on Virtual currencies as an honored distinguished guest, and that news of it happening didn't even reach me until it is two hours too late to start driving and make it on time.
nubbins`: figured i'd sweeten the pot a bit
benkay: (re: "who runs this": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBmMU_iwe6U)
nubbins`: i sent one along immediately after submitting the bet
nubbins`: does it usually take a while for initial bets to appear?
mircea_popescu: BCB As the wolly-haired Melanasians of Papua, New Guinea once said, (Makes a series of clicking and popping sounds)
ThickAsThieves: "Today, however, founder Tim Sweeney is announcing a new business model: Epic will charge just $19 a month, and 5 percent of a game developer's gross revenue, for access to the complete Unreal Engine set of tools and even its source code."
BCB: mircea_popescu: you command of the english language is impressive
BingoBoingo: BCB: Generally kakobrekla runs the channel MP's handle is...
BCB: who runs this channel