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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i intend to pack the crates 'to the waterline' , just like last go.
asciilifeform: ( i.e. ~with~ the surcharge , is what one gets from this vendor )
mircea_popescu: i dunno what this max load is.
asciilifeform: well i was 5kg short of the max load, so 3rd box would've had to be <5, even supposing they'd take another 300 and eat it
mircea_popescu: i don't mean, your luggage.
asciilifeform: funnily enuff i did. ( in fact was uncertain until last moment that the actual 2 crates would fly, the co's www is retarded)
mircea_popescu: "hey, i also have this one box, can you carry it ?"
asciilifeform: last time i rtfm'd , 'copa' (the 1 usable co.) permitted over-mass XOR over-dimension .
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's a calculable function. 4 'heavy' (32cpu opterons) added up to just 5kg short of the max permitted 'overweight'. anything lighter (e.g. rk plant) poses no pain from mass pov. but the suitcases i (specifically) bought for expeditions, are in fact of max permitted phys. dimensions. (w/ 2 u in ea. + paddings and fixators.)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the ones for mircea_popescu , are looking to cost 1-1.5 k ($) ea. (still hunting for the exact machines we use, the old seller seems to have vanished) . rk plant will cost ~1k , not counting drives (and switch, which, grrr, not found yet!) for a plant of 16 subunits. the remaining 1u is to be apu1 (4x) , not drawn yet so i daren't say exactly what costs, expect also in vicinity of 1k (sans disk).
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i used 'cattle car class', see.
asciilifeform: well, half the density, i.e. double the transport cost.
asciilifeform: i actually had tlp pegged in my head as a dour, aged, 'feminism'-flavoured chix
mircea_popescu: "i thought he was a great guy, right, so then i moved in with him, and OMFG HE IS INSUFFERABLE
mircea_popescu: add to that the FUCKING INSANE tlp being annoying as fuck, i'm having a blogging crisis over here
mircea_popescu: i don't think i have the stomach for more ; which is why the publish-with-drescriptions-instead-of-links model, it's the choice of this or not fucking publish at all.
mircea_popescu: i spent 60% of the time with that article hunting for references.
mircea_popescu: i dunno wtf i'm going to do here, but it's becoming a serious problem, i'm starting to bump against an objective limit in reality.
asciilifeform: sometimes i get notion that the hunted item is in mircea_popescu's www, but difficult to test given no search box .
asciilifeform: there's coupla moar of these, but i'ma leave off, evidently mircea_popescu still fillin'em in
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, nah, it's not expected to work atm. trying to figure out what i want here.
asciilifeform: for thrd-completeness, also painfully missing are back/fwd linkages a la phf, but these need working date/era handling before i even dare to touch the q
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: quoted strings? indeed still gotta bake'em ( see in readme.txt, they're on the listof missing essentials , and errybody grumbles, i'ma do these next )
mircea_popescu: i specificalty recall describing this situation in munchen whereby i took cab driver all over bars, trying to find some with decent seating, didn't find any, at end dude was like "well, there's no more left on the list, you have to sit here" and i was like "bitch, i dun have to anything"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, more importantly, how do i searc for the string "don't have" ?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-27 04:13:06 phf: fixing an old style link is then cheap e.g. for http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-07-2014#758070 i parse out 758070, (entryref 758070), then render the url (which is standard url rendering function) which uses whatever date that's stored in the message record, http://btcbase.org/log/2014-07-16#758070 in this particular case they happen to be the same, but the point is that this is not a regex transform. essentially i
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-27#1931353 << phf yer missing the point , i need so that http://btcbase.org/log/2014-07-16#758070 AND http://btcbase.org/log/1945-07-16#758070 go to same thing ! ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( whereas 'ntpism' , i.e. networked clocks, make sense in 0 case, it's simply riotously dumb idea, packet delay aint deterministic . ntpism is pure inca scamola. )
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-27 07:12:48 mircea_popescu: ie, not only im never gonna mandate inca's "ntp", but i'm not even going to make anything like it.
asciilifeform: my contention 'clock is luxury' is based on thought similar to mircea_popescu's, i.e. it dun make sense to bother unless yer doing shortwave or similar application where the intervals gotta be utterly fixed or no go entirely
asciilifeform: oh hm apparently i was wrong re the cheaper rb -- chinese sell ~pocket-sized unit . but still headache, would have to interface it somehow.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-27#1931361 << imho clock is a luxury and in foreseeable future i'ma only load essentials into the crates. but the good noose is, rubidium has halflife of ~5e10 yrs and aint setting off any alarms. while cesium clock uses the stable 133 . problem is rather that the buggers are heavy and can't be had , seems, in anyffin smaller than 2U .
asciilifeform: hence wai i posed the q. maybe trinque or lobbes , serious wwwists, can crack this one.
asciilifeform: unless i;m missing sumthing
asciilifeform: ikr. i also thought !
mircea_popescu: i could've sworn....
asciilifeform tried various browsers, all behave to spec, i.e. none send url-cum-anchor as part of get or post ( ff and chrome do put it in referrer, but it's quite useless for this job, i need a scheme where url entered by hand or otherwise no ref hdr , is valid )
asciilifeform: interesting. spec seems to say they ought not, so i suspect not erry browser sends
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-27 07:09:42 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-26#1931343 << this is terrible ; but i don't see anything wrong with parsing url by id first, such that log/date#index goes to #index on whatever date it might be, and to /date otherwise.
mircea_popescu: ie, not only im never gonna mandate inca's "ntp", but i'm not even going to make anything like it.
mircea_popescu: i have no intention o fforcing anything like "time", because (as per ancient discussion i suspect meanwhole forgotten but which i still remember) fiat time is doomed non-republican construct.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-26 23:07:47 asciilifeform: the obv. alternative is to actually do a db lookup when printing links, to get the appropriate local date. BUT this means a db lookup per link displayed, i.e. slowdown.
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-26#1931343 << this is terrible ; but i don't see anything wrong with parsing url by id first, such that log/date#index goes to #index on whatever date it might be, and to /date otherwise.
phf: fixing an old style link is then cheap e.g. for http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-07-2014#758070 i parse out 758070, (entryref 758070), then render the url (which is standard url rendering function) which uses whatever date that's stored in the message record, http://btcbase.org/log/2014-07-16#758070 in this particular case they happen to be the same, but the point is that this is not a regex transform. essentially i do a ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-08-27 02:20 asciilifeform: atm i also suspect that a certain % of links imported from 'era 2' (phf's april 2016 -- aug. 2019) also do not go where expected, on acct of clock difference b/w the boxen.
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-08-27#1931379 << btcbase is a continuation of kako's log, so there's no timestamp divergence. one log stops at dragon, and the other one starts. never the less i don't rely on dates at all: the entirety of log is stored in an array, so kako entry 123 is (aref *log* 123), likewise current log entry 1931379 is at that particular index in array. ☝︎
asciilifeform: the obv. alternative is to actually do a db lookup when printing links, to get the appropriate local date. BUT this means a db lookup per link displayed, i.e. slowdown.
asciilifeform: easiest pill is prolly to '301' e.g. a ...../log/chan/idx/31337 into correct /log/chan/date#31337 , and transform the payloads of all displayed links into the former. BUT this would break with historical convention. so i'ma ask mircea_popescu how he wants this sewn.
asciilifeform: atm i also suspect that a certain % of links imported from 'era 2' (phf's april 2016 -- aug. 2019) also do not go where expected, on acct of clock difference b/w the boxen. ☟︎
lobbes: in my trilema-lotto today; the (potential) $2 million couch loan. I worked with someone years ago who "lended" for the BTCjam thing... tried dissuade him and instead get him registered with a gpg key an' into the WOT but he just was too thick. Wonder if he's in a cardboard box these days
mircea_popescu: i was talking more re the whole best korea "false benjie'
asciilifeform: i'd be surprised if any bank were found to eat it, most dun have an archaeologist on staff to distinguish genuine from modern fake
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i saw it exactly 1nce .
BingoBoingo: I'll check real quick
asciilifeform: most recent usa bill to be cancelled, iirc , was the 2 $ . some illiterate shop clerks will in fact refuse it, tho it still, last i knew, is accepted by banks .
mircea_popescu: i dunno that they count as "circulating money".
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: numismatics is (was??) astonishingly popular in usa. ( for some reason, the most prized rarities are -- last i knew -- mis-struct ~pennies~ of early 20th c.. )
lobbes: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-26#1931251 << oya. Back when I was in "srsbizniss school" in 2006-2010 I remember it being a question on an exam.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: As far as I can tell the Miami 5th column is ~the same as Argentina's, but beat more frequently
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i have difficulty picturing a 'vietnam rerun' , tho the current crop of muppets is certainly dumb enuff. moar likely the linked item is intended as activation ping for whatever 'miami' 5th column can be mustered in br.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: as i understand, br has somewhat of an 'excess biomass' problem. possibly could even benefit from a 'great patriotic war'.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I suspect boats and boat related systems. Bofors and similar.
asciilifeform will have to adjust 'eater' proggy, but db i think is already able to eat.
phf: asciilifeform: yeap, i see no reason to leave really
phf: but the crack got infected, just because it's that kind of area, and by the time i got it dealt with i was in a pre-sepsis state. it took less than a week from a fall to 39.9 120 bpm infection
phf: hurt like a motherfucker, so i had no idea for a while if i broke my tailbone, tore something, or what
phf: well, i slipped at some point and landed badly into a kind of brush covered fallen tree stump
phf: this was actually quite similar, i went off trail in swiss alps, because the path was damaged and i didn't want to backtrack, it was maybe 200m to a parallel route, but the way was pretty much vertical
phf: mp kept making the same jokes about "fallen off ass", i thought it would've been obvious by now
asciilifeform: phf: i dun think you ever said, what was it that got you ? stray bullet ?
phf: the approach is from the "illuminated manuscripts" era of tmsr, so i kept all the files as is, but i think i can produce a kako style dump reasonably fast
asciilifeform: phf: i'ma swallow yours and invite anyone who thinks he has gap fillers to compare , then.
phf: yeah, i only added them recently
asciilifeform: phf: oh hm loox like you actually have 2013 -- present in there ? oddly enuff when i thought you were dead and wget -m ... 'd the site, only saw 2016--present in /raw
diana_coman: I just didn't expect it/plan it,lol; but precisely: why not; at least so far they have been very responsive, let's see how it works out.
diana_coman: I did a log-search and couldn't find it; ah, I searched in new ones
diana_coman: seems like an overkill for a logger but from all I can find about them I really like those guys www.cyberbunker.com/web/swat.php
asciilifeform: trinque: i also look forward to reading .
mircea_popescu: (hi all from ye olde temeswar. i will be here for a few days, then thurs-ish sibiu and then brasov for the weekend.)
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-25 23:26:22 trinque: meanwhile I'm over here writing this denuding, batshit piece. I think what's funny to me about lobbes is he may be the exact counterpoint to my narcissism
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-25#1931140 << might be the best promo for a piece being weritten i've yet seen. defo would reat that then!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, just about, yes. for many years i swore by debian,
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i've ordered 1u carcasses for the rk and apu1 plants , and will be machining the fittings for the internals in the next weeks.
trinque: meanwhile I'm over here writing this denuding, batshit piece. I think what's funny to me about lobbes is he may be the exact counterpoint to my narcissism
trinque: you just have this comical precision regarding which I'm too inarticulate to define why I'm amused
trinque: lobbes: I'm not even ripping on you
trinque: man I find lobbes such an entertaining character, and not in some kind of diminutive way.
asciilifeform: from 'i lost mah keez!111 and pgp obsolete!' zimmerman, to this.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-25 19:10:26 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-24#1930814 << heh, from back when i was rooting for debian / wanted to believe.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-25#1931115 << i suppose it was your 'gentoo', heh. ( as i understand, debian perished approx. at same time as gentoo. )
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-24#1930814 << heh, from back when i was rooting for debian / wanted to believe.
asciilifeform: me neither (and if anyone can think of a 3rd variant that i've omitted, plox to write in.)
trinque: I am not prescribing implementation.
asciilifeform: trinque: i'm actually all for offering it as a preconfigged variant of rk . my objections were 100% re the traditional variant, where all packets nominally become part of an indistinct outgoing soup via 1 shared ip.
mircea_popescu: i don't think he wants to talk to anyone, in general.
asciilifeform: trinque: i'm 100% through enumerating, lol. will go into read mode for a spell, if trinque has specific 'get this obv. $item through yer thick head!' i will read.
trinque: I dunno man, that metaphor went way off the rails
trinque: asciilifeform: I want to have a discussion that takes longer than the enumeration of your preconceptions.
asciilifeform: i thought idea (of orig thrd) was re how to monetize a large monolithic multicpu box.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: for my education, work through example where vpn customer starts sending spam. how do i even determine ~which one it was~ w/out loudly and publicly breaking the promise to the customers which makes the idea of relay appealing to start with ?