asciilifeform: ( and problematic in other ways -- not even shy about using 'whitening' for instance. )
asciilifeform: and cheapest i know of, is north of 20,000 usd per
asciilifeform: Barbarossa_: there are commercial rng that use interferometer, yes ( NONE of them auditable by owner, in fact many epoxied and otherwise artificially painful to examine )
asciilifeform: 'We submitted extensive information about our random number generator (RNG) to an independent organization. We asked this trusted resource to perform an in-depth analysis of the randomness of the output of the RNG, and its implementation in the shuffling of the cards on our platform.'☟︎
asciilifeform: which contains not only no proof of anything, but not even an assertion re what exactly they supposedly use
asciilifeform: Barbarossa_: once you get a pgp key, consider registering with deedbot
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: what do you expect from toyota when you go to them instead of used dealer ?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i don't know specifically what.
asciilifeform: though i've thought about suggesting to mircea_popescu to offer hand-delivery ( chore would fall to asciilifeform... ) as an option. but i dun like nonflat prices☟︎
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: all fg should be assumed to pass through ftmeade. sorta what the audit process is for, neh.
asciilifeform: so if mircea_popescu is paying ben_vulpes 10 dubloons per diem to guard his plutonium stash, it does not follow that this is 'above market' just because there is a queue of redditors offering to do it for 1 dubloon
asciilifeform: if you think you see somebody willingly paying 'more than market price', consider that you might be mistaken re the identity of what he's paying for
asciilifeform: sorta like that thread where asciilifeform mentioned that he'd buy a 10,000$ comp. but not same comp he has , hopefully ! but ~a~ comp
asciilifeform: it does 0 good to earn back something other than the btc that was spent. because snsa operates in btc.
asciilifeform: btc earned back. not -- pointedly -- usd, or dubloons, or grain.
asciilifeform: Barbarossa_: to shed more light on (entirely not seekrit) price structure -- to pay for producing a device, btc is spent. then it gotta be earned back.
asciilifeform: however, the difference b/w what ~that~ costs, and what we charge, is denominated in btc.
asciilifeform: Barbarossa_: technically you can get it for exactly what it costs us -- make it yerself from the schematics
asciilifeform: 'time flows at 1 second per second ' (tm)(r)
asciilifeform: there are no plans to peg the price, however, to a fixed quantity of usd, or troy of gold, or pounds of grain, or any other babylonian metric.,
asciilifeform: and yes there was recently a price cut
asciilifeform: Barbarossa_: btc has been at alltimehigh maybe 4 days out of 5 for past 6 months neh
asciilifeform: ( the www people simply pissed on the problem, african-style, and didn't even pretend to solve )☟︎
asciilifeform: incidentally ted nelson struggled with this conundrum, and imho his failure to produce anything looked like a solution, is 1 of the reasons why he was relegated to 'voice in wilderness' rather than getting to define www