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pete_dushenski: hey, mom could've give dude a lift, cut him some slack that his dick's dry as the sahara.
asciilifeform: is there a supermanised agitprop movie of martin and mitchell ?
trinque: guy always seemed like a bed wetter
pete_dushenski: trinque: and yet that impotent nerd character is 'supermanised' into bill gates, swordfish hackers, and snowden in the same breath. not that i have a model for this duality.
pete_dushenski: i read it as "no one asked the untermensch what they think, but isn't it funny to get a glimpse inside of what they think they think" (part cccxiv)
ben_vulpes: trinque: fwiw, if a girl doesn't at least allow for other women to engage in sex work she can't be called a feminist
pete_dushenski: wikipedia link and open in a new browser if you care to know more about me http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayesha_Gaddafi "
pete_dushenski: at least this is my impression from reading ch. been a few years since i was in portland
ben_vulpes: most people get around in covered wagons anyways, so it's not that big of a deal.
pete_dushenski: to use a mod6ism, it's slick as a minnow's dick out there.
pete_dushenski: "Hi, Would you be interested in Email List of Toxicology Industry Professionals?" << that's a new spam angle.
a111: Logged on 2013-12-23 15:39 Nick_Szabo: money laundering is a human right!
mircea_popescu: so i just ran a count and among the ~4k or so different names, there's a <Nick_Szabo> !
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: you'll be pleased to hear that i resurrected cycling season today. +2C and studded winter tires were a combo i couldn't pass up. route that takes 25min in the summer took 35 through the snow and slush. will be trying for once a week going forward, weather permitting.
pete_dushenski: that white priviledge is a stubborn stain
ben_vulpes: such a simple machine, detonator and compressive charge, how could anyone ever fuck that up.
mats: 'accidentally' bombed a refugee camp like usg accidentally bombed a chinese embassy
mats: in moar 'accidents', http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/AF_NIGERIA_BOMBING_ERROR
BingoBoingo: Anyways the lesson of yesterday's log is that asciilifeform needs a warm wet cotton rag to help the next kitten.
shinohai: "Why, you take your cat and go and get in the graveyard 'long about midnight when somebody that was wicked has been buried; and when it's midnight a devil will come, or maybe two or three"
asciilifeform had a dream last night, that he was tending a threadbare patch of ground in afghan. and another dream that he visited mircea_popescu's house, and it turned out to be a massive derelict freighter, tastefully rockefellerized on the inside.
asciilifeform: i read reddit/hn, & co., for a short while because it had a subculture of commonlisp folx. then stayed tuned for no good reason for a spell, from inertia.
asciilifeform: fwiw i never saw it and don't have a feeling of having missed anything.
mircea_popescu: i suppose if i gave half a shit about "online" and "the web" and whatnot in 2000s i might have read it too. as it happens, i didn't.
asciilifeform: at one point (mid-2000s) i quasi-regularly read hn. it always had a background hum of wagner/cyanide, but carefully filtered, the way slaughterhouse keeps the squeals isolated to one end of the conveyor, so as not to frighten the incoming pigs.
mircea_popescu: myeah. almost made me want to leave a comment. but, not gonna bother.
asciilifeform: dunno if there ever ~was~ a gap.
mircea_popescu: originally my "trei ani de experienta" (three years' experience) was a stab at the deeply illiterate, cargo-cultish third world shithole that was romania.
asciilifeform: in a continuation of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-17#1604239 >> https://archive.is/AQPoU ☝︎
mircea_popescu: in other nutty, apparently there's a rather active tlp subreddit. in case anyone's unclear as to how "foss" works : they'll soon enough come up with a tlp 2.0 and then discontinue the original website.
jhvh1: stormy with a chance of packeting
Ingolfr_Arnarson: You have to pay something, even if it is participating in a ridiculous hinduist ritual, and other things, so they are satisfied and leave you alone.
Ingolfr_Arnarson: It's useless to try to make a contract to solve an issue because the contract is way less relevant than the way you maximize the probabilities of getting what you want (i.e. buying from a scammer vs someone who was doing well for long -can still turn into a scammer anytime but less chances).
Ingolfr_Arnarson: Well, it depends, when your gf is from a conservative half hindu half muslim family you have to deal with complexity around the perisexual arrangements.
Ingolfr_Arnarson: It's useless to try to establish a contract to solve an issue is way less irrelevant that the way you make sure people can trust each other to give what was promised.
mircea_popescu: i have no idea why you imagine the perisexual arrangements of a coupla people are notably important. seems to me to be by far the least important and least complex item there is.
Ingolfr_Arnarson: but i didn't say i wouldn't take a contract, it means you have just touched a sensitive point in my life due to the complexity of actors involved with different interests (she, me, her family) that we need to provide of part in the contract because of trying to live in peaceful terms with them after it and still get with our own plans.
mircea_popescu: i dunno, a png i expect. same as here, neh ?
Ingolfr_Arnarson: Of course I don't think that the 'ancap agreement' makes people fulfill it automatically by just saying they will, and there is an additional actual effective system needed to 'enforce' the agreement in a concrete way.
mircea_popescu: we've been testing it extensively, over years, it's mostly a solved problem.
mircea_popescu: can't hurt. in any case, you don't need any prior agreement. there already exists, and in practice works, a self-righting mechanism for the same purpose.
Ingolfr_Arnarson: a bit.
Ingolfr_Arnarson: I apologize for using the word violence, because I know it is already being used in many ways that can be used to distort a specific meaning put on a so much touched symbol. Maybe I should use another word without participation in the already established language games.
mircea_popescu: and as a metholodogical principle : when you discover that your notion is baseless, the correct response is not to try and prop it up. the correct response is to get rid of it.
Ingolfr_Arnarson: I am afraid without the limits of qualias then everything is violence and if everything is violence then it is useless to even use a word for it.
Ingolfr_Arnarson: Your 2 machine guns are part of your legitimate defense. You can use violence, all you want. But if you want to conform a community that works as one, then you need to agree that among yourselves you won't be nasty.
Ingolfr_Arnarson: But did you ask your slaves how much violence from you they need in their lives? There is no problem in the question, because it is a question that can be asked to someone who can actually have a choice. The slaves don't, even if they'd rather have zero violence in their lives, you do have a choice, hence I can ask you the question.
mircea_popescu: seems a worthy continuation of the insanity that got the us in its present pickle in the first place. first, no child left behind, then, no to bullying, finally, "no violence". if a little bit of shit in the soup made it bad, and a little more made it worse, surely the solution is pure turd potage.
Ingolfr_Arnarson: trinque, got it, actually I know I was just playing with the feature as when *muting* in a conference :P
phf: building a virtual nation and ~starting~ with question of physical violence seems odd
mircea_popescu: motherfucker, imagine if these pansy-ass "ancaps" end up in power, and fail to hang ~everyone who was ever involved with a us political party in any capacity because "oh that'd be violent". holy shit you don't like reading history do you.
mircea_popescu: as presented this is just a tedious rehash of us-style evanghelism, itself a tedious rehash of catolicism, itself a tedious rehash of orthodox xtianity. there's ~0 need of re-re-re-re-doing a stupid idea, seriously now.
mircea_popescu: in which perspective, "stop whining, you weren't raped, it's called reproduction" on one hand and "shut it, you can't have ideas, you're not a person" become quite readily equivalent mirror processes of de-subhumanization.
mircea_popescu: it turns out on meditation that the blue-and-red usg as a matter of practical gnosis stands doubled by the subjective-objective vs need-want spurious equivalences. the charade promises "girls" that what they think is what is ; AND boys that what they want is what they need.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that is not a deformity, that is a learned behaviour. girl is supposed to be able to take that pose or else needs to work out more.
phf: movie is sort of an absurdist take on cargo cultism. in this case the quotes are instructions on social ritual on a backwards planet, that are obviously meaningless. a su viewer would see parallels to own life
mircea_popescu: plan a: create nation state. plan b: hack on some python code. plan c: kill some unloved males.
danielpbarron: Ingolfr_Arnarson, a blog is not only for you to judge the world, but for the world to judge you
Ingolfr_Arnarson: I have a definition under the ancap 'contract'
trinque: surely killing a person might be a waste, but one would have to bother to define person before using the term
trinque: first comes the "fuck you I won't do whatcha tell me," then later one considers that in a competitive arena, things tend to sort.
Ingolfr_Arnarson: I heard there is a republic running in here. Also bitcoin could work as one if it doesn't fail in an unexpected way.
trinque tends to think the ancap thing is a developmental stage.
Ingolfr_Arnarson: No but a lot of people have and are saying things better than I could.
danielpbarron: you have a blog already? then no, a second blog is not needed
phf: "plan a: create nation state. plan b: hack on some python code"
danielpbarron: should put a blog there
Ingolfr_Arnarson: asciilifeform: I do not have a www created. Just owning www.ancapia.com, trying to design the best plan to make it a guide for people into voluntaryism or to turn it into an actual virtual nation conforming instructions. If possible. If I decide it is not, then I'll drop it and dedicate onto other projects I have.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-15 19:10 Framedragger: another film recommendation by association - documentary: "whore's glory" - by one glawogger (who died from malaria or somesuch while filming in liberia or somewheresuch), a bunch of interviews with whores in bangladesh, thailand etc
asciilifeform: Ingolfr_Arnarson: do you have a www ?
Ingolfr_Arnarson: I am a normal guy with a normal work, who for some strange life chances ended up into libertarianism (politics until turning full ancap) and around the bitcoin community here. There is where I knew someone who let me know about Mircea's posts and about this channel. I am into coding, into maths, physics and of course crypto. And trying to organize a better society without state. I think that's all that may be relevant to say now. Any questions?
ben_vulpes: Ingolfr_Arnarson: you writing a novel?
mircea_popescu: i was thinking "hey, this is a recurring vulpes thing"
Ingolfr_Arnarson: Mircea asked me to introduce myself before, I'll type about myself a bit now and then press enter.
ben_vulpes: Ingolfr_Arnarson: indulge me for a second, i'm going to down you and then would you up yourself?
mircea_popescu: curl http://cascadianhacker.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/blocks.txt | sed "s/span>/\n/g" | grep "m, " | awk -F ", " '{print $3$4}' | sed 's/m/*60+/ ; s%s%%' | bc << that has pretty much everything that's needed. fiddle the awk to make an acumulator then print a 2nd colum,n with the sdev etc.
mircea_popescu: if anyone needs a refresher on that tony hain politruk, https://archive.is/CIFhA
asciilifeform: '... the demonstrated fact that they are unwilling to make the well documented changes to deploy IPv6 because they simply refuse to make a change, or to learn something new. ... In the beta version of Windows XP I made sure IPv6 was ON-BY-DEFAULT, with no knob to turn it off, because I knew that given the option enterprise administrators would turn it off. I lost the battle in the shipping version though, and sure enough the first
mircea_popescu: mats it is a "maximum damage" strategy, isn't it.
jurov: “Mr. Snowden fled into the arms of an adversary and has sought refuge in a country that most recently made a concerted effort to undermine confidence in our democracy.”
agustin: I have a gpg key now.
mircea_popescu: "we said the exact thing that someone was going to have said anyway in those circumstances and this should be recorded with a name associated." dude... why the everloving fuck already.
mircea_popescu: fucking quisman. there's always a bunch of these, and then they pretend to history.
mats: anyway, this is a bit circle-jerk-y, so ill stop
ben_vulpes: you have a gpg key?
mircea_popescu: i actually became a patriot with the invention of tmsr, whodda thunk it. i never thought i would care enough.
mats: i thought i was a patriot for a stretch.
mircea_popescu: technically : a patriot is a person who is willing to die in order to keep people who don't belong in his country out of his country.
mircea_popescu: mats and what is a country ?
mats: ben_vulpes: a person that loves their country!
mircea_popescu: kresty group loyalty is not patriotism as the prison is not a nation even if you include its culture.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: every year in washington there is a parade of grim motorcyclists with long, white beards. they served in vietnam. and naive description could be 'patriot' but they have the specific patriotism of folx who sat in same jail together. specifically focus on 'missing POWs', parading with black flags with barbed-wire head, etc.
ben_vulpes: mats: forgive me, but what's a "patriot" in this context?
mircea_popescu: and so there isn't such a thing as a patriot in that place since about the civil war, give or take.
mircea_popescu: the us had a "nationalization moment", when it attempted to become a nation (much like serbia did recently ; and got bombed for it by the same people).
ben_vulpes: cut taxes, increase social benefits. raise the debt ceiling, it's not like it actually matters, what the government doesn't balance its checkbook like a household omg
mats: a yes, the welfare recipient is a tru patriot
ben_vulpes: employing and accustoming armies of bachelors degrees holders to a 'nice middle class life'
mircea_popescu: wtf is ssi ? they already get ~700 a month
asciilifeform: mats: it is quite like hanging out with d00d who runs a massive, 19th-c.-style 'hellish mill', spewing coal smoke, but objecting to the smell of his cigar.