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mircea_popescu: no, he pretended to be a stranded marine
davout: i know of one where the guy pretended to be a pirate or sthg
mircea_popescu: hey, anyone recall that iconic confidence scam scene where the guy pretends to be an ex marine waiting for a money order ?
nubbins`: davout: "but it is an ownage!" "okay, then, smoke it" "..."
dexX7: i think this is the original thread on btctalk https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=515932.0
TestingUnoDosTre: did that guy just copy bitcointalk?
mircea_popescu: well... undeletable by the same crowd at any rate.
mircea_popescu: an undeletable tardstalk
mircea_popescu: i think pretty much everyone likes him by now.
mircea_popescu: dexX7 maybe drop the guy a note to come by ?
mircea_popescu: o wait wait... the 3k btc worth of server can be slowed down ?
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nubbins`: pankkake: i think thermos is, so he can cut and run with the forum upgrade funds
dexX7: hehe wanted to drop bitcointa.lk too
nubbins`: open a thread w/ images, all broken. refresh, all there.
pankkake: who's behind https://bitcointa.lk/ by the way?
nubbins`: btctalk is fucked these past few days
pankkake: because that obviously can't be cached…
nubbins`: so you could say that thermos has... INSULATED her?
pankkake: yes, because it slows down the server or some crap
pankkake: because of thermos
mircea_popescu: davout she totally owned joo :D
mircea_popescu: it's getting harder and harder to argue with that chick
nubbins`: rusty trombones
nubbins` endorsals your gf for the following skills
TestingUnoDosTre: oh my gawd that comment is priceless https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=271711.msg5902582#msg5902582
ninjashogun: mircea_popescu, weaker than usual pun :)
mircea_popescu: something to do with behinds.
pankkake: I removed a lot of friends this year actually
nubbins` endorsed you for the following skills: beard-growing
mircea_popescu: kinda why i love nanotube. he's a geek, and he's not making the wot any more social than it is
BingoBoingo: The people for whom any social interaction is a greater burden then clicking button on whatever virtual BBQ retreat they go to
pankkake: I've been endorsed for skills the people endorsing me knew nothing about. that's because it bugs you to endorse people…
nubbins`: "the hr manager at your first job out of university has endorsed you for the following skills"
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: And the wanna be Ceo aspies
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: The forum aspies
nubbins`: yeah, i've had people i worked with 3 years ago "endorse" me for skills out of the blue
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo the who ?!
TestingUnoDosTre: I've had some Indian dude that I briefly hung out with at work like 3 years ago ask for endorsements on his project management skills. I complied...
mircea_popescu: meanwhile at the farm of evil, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=271711.msg5902521#msg5902521
pankkake: they did some things right lately, you can *endorse* people
BingoBoingo: Basically the part where you contact the raters is why the apserzersorLords aren't keen on the WoT and default to Pirateat40 to justify their sloth
TestingUnoDosTre: I absolutely hate recruits on linked in. It's like they believe their likelyhood of staying with a company depends on how many contacts they have
mircea_popescu: and that's quite why i;'m so distrustful of various "Experts" and "ceos" and whatnot that don't have one.
TestingUnoDosTre: just joking. you explained the concept quite well
mircea_popescu: i can cut through the chase in about ten minutes because of it,
mircea_popescu: lol it's the thinking that makes it powerful tho.
TestingUnoDosTre: too much thinking. I'm going to go create a web of likes and dislikes ;)
mircea_popescu: and you go "but specifically in this context ? "
mircea_popescu: and i tell you "we've done a bunch of 0.0001 trades and i trust him to so and so and back and forth"
nubbins`: yep, top of my charts
gribble: You rated user mircea_popescu on Thu Oct 17 15:12:06 2013, with a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: patron of the arts.
mircea_popescu: "hey, what's this guy worth in trust ?" ☟︎
mircea_popescu: you don't know him, but know me. so you come to me ☟︎
mircea_popescu: TestingUnoDosTre suppose this guy comes to trade 5 with you. ☟︎
mike_c: thanks for rating mp. i have found wot useful even for someone like me with a small graph. you rate people you trust, and then can leech off their ratings.
pankkake: but I could trust someone I know nothing about
TestingUnoDosTre: Let's say your .001 trader comes around looking to trade 5
nubbins`: i think the highest rating i've left anyone is maybe a 2.
mircea_popescu: it's a web of trust not a web of facebook likes.
TestingUnoDosTre: I'm confused though
nubbins`: too true
mircea_popescu: nubbins` it's really how the wot's supposed to work.
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu. Trust relationship from user BingoBoingo to user mircea_popescu: Level 1: 6, Level 2: 11 via 7 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=BingoBoingo&dest=mircea_popescu | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=mircea_popescu | Rated since: Fri Jul 22 11:04:26 2011
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user BingoBoingo to user pankkake: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 4 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=BingoBoingo&dest=pankkake | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=pankkake | Rated since: Thu Jun 6 12:07:25 2013
mircea_popescu: conversely i could keep someone at a 1 even if we trade millions, if it's a hit and run affair and i couldn't really tell them from adam.
mircea_popescu: so in this sense, pankkake, i can mark as 10 someone with whom i only do 0.001 trades, inasmuch as i judge that i can 100% describe them to whoever asks
duduqa: "misapprehension"...boy, I´m learning good English for free here. Big THANK YOU, Mr. MP
mircea_popescu: and the individual score is not "how trustworthy is this guy" but "how well i am acquainted with this guy", ie, how valuable my input may be to a third party asking for references.
mircea_popescu: the only thing someone's aggregate score tells you is how likely it is for you to have someone who knows him in your network.
pankkake: no, I just take them as trust
mircea_popescu: that's not what they are. they're statistical dampeners.
mircea_popescu: pankkake it seems you're labouring under the misapprehension that these ranks are sort-of like school marks
pankkake: thought it was 5. maybe then
pankkake: is there a maximum?
mircea_popescu: pankkake how do you know how i score things ?
BingoBoingo: He didn't do much in the public chan
Apocalyptic: doesn't contradict the fact you may be a broker
dexX7: re wired: wasn't this mcmillan guy the one who was here a few days ago?
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user BingoBoingo has changed from 3 to 3.
pankkake: I don't qualify for this
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user pankkake has changed from 1 to 3.
TestingUnoDosTre: a little bit late, but this was an awesome comment in the california hacker article "It IS relatively easy for an nationally/regionally accredited operation to advertise a degree program, collect tuition, and then provide low-quality education. Somehow I see a deep parallel, and the problem is what again??"
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user FabianB has changed from 1 to 3.
mircea_popescu: ;;rate FabianB 3 Ruby pympex extension, some trades etc
ninjashogun: PDF of the original Securities Act (relevant section): https://www.sec.gov/about/laws/sa33.pdf PDF of Exchange Act: https://www.sec.gov/about/laws/sea34.pdf
ninjashogun: I asked about accepting bitcoin for shares on my site - since it's "play money" (monopoly money) that is PC software and anyone can run it (like a video game) to generate the virtual internet coins.
ninjashogun: (at the SEC.)
ninjashogun: as to whether something is an investment contract is a fact-specific analysis. \p The Division of Trading and Markets "
ninjashogun: "Mr. Viragh, \p If it constitutes a security, yes. \pThe definition of security is included in Securities Act Section 2(a)(1) and Exchange Act Section (3)(a)(10). In addition, the term “investment contract” has been further defined by court cases. While the determination that “stocks” and “bonds” are securities may be fairly simple (because they are specifically named in these definitions), the determination
gribble: Securities Act of 1933 - Securities and Exchange Commission: <https://www.sec.gov/about/laws/sa33.pdf>; Securities Act of 1933 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Securities_Act_of_1933>; Securities Act Of 1933 Definition | Investopedia: <http://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/securitiesact1933.asp>
ninjashogun: and Google: "Exchange Act Section (3)(a)(10)" and read the first sentence (of the pdf)
ninjashogun: Google: "Securities Act Section 2(a)(1)" and read the first sentence
ninjashogun: Google Securities Act Section 2(a)(1) and read the first sentence
mircea_popescu: which is the fundamental reason why stuff like the wot and otc trade and so forth are so important.
mircea_popescu: the problem with this, of course, is that it doesn't actually work.
asciilifeform: it's why 'gox == btc' in the us press, etc.
asciilifeform: this is the phoundation in 1 sentence.
mircea_popescu: on one hand they're scum anyway, so not likely they'll suddenly discover a backbone, and on the other hand even if they were to try you already have enough on them to put them away for a long, long time.
mircea_popescu: as far as the alphabet soup is concerned, the ideal situation is to have everything penetrated by people like kenna.