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mircea_popescu: so ascii is to blame huh ?
diametric: punkman: maybe, i vaguely remember reading after that came out the newer shipped ones don't work
asciilifeform: these folks are crackpots, quite possibly inspired by my ravings re: dataflow archs. so i am to blame.
punkman: oh sweet, you can hack these Rigols http://hackaday.com/2013/07/02/unlocking-a-rigol-scope-once-again/
mircea_popescu: navhul-lacsup wait, so is this actually an urbit powered irc bouncer ?!
asciilifeform: somebody linked to 'mill' in my comment peanutgallery once
mircea_popescu: benkay i don't know enough about cpus to be useful there.
benkay: ahoy the sub
benkay: asciilifeform, mircea_popescu, diametric and chipfolk at large: on a scale of zero to crackpot: http://ootbcomp.com/
asciilifeform: instruments with acceptable, if not great, quality, are more available today than ever.
benkay: lucky them, living in such a slow time and communing with such giants.
asciilifeform is mostly an uneducated brute, who learned of things by playing with them, and libraries.
asciilifeform: think of it that way.
asciilifeform: most of what we think of as 'high tech' was created by people who never lived to see a plastic bag.
asciilifeform: the first oscilloscope wasn't even electronic in the usual sense (mirror on a rope, deflected by electrostatic charges, candle, projects on wall)
asciilifeform: it's merely a voltmeter with a time axis.
asciilifeform: and you can usually find the manual on the net.
benkay: manuals having long since disappeared from the shop.
benkay: i had to have someone who grew up with them teach me how to use them though.
diametric: yeah I have a 79 (i think?) tektronics of some sort I haven't used very much
asciilifeform: i think most people (who have any dealings with such matters, at any rate) own at least 2 scopes - a chinese trambo, and a vintage american analogue unit.
diametric: thats the one I have, it works well for my uses.
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diametric: oh, I have a collection but ultimately I don't do enough electronics work to give that great of opinions on it.
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asciilifeform: and their purposes
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform dude i think i actually can prove there won't be no "lead standard".
asciilifeform: then watch the echos.
asciilifeform: the other end, to a probe.
asciilifeform: attach to a cable made with two segments of mismatched impedence
benkay: minimum bend radii, maximum cable lengths, nobody ever wanted to cram that many probes that close together before, handed the problem to resident kid.
asciilifeform: even the lowliest asian oscilloscope comes with built-in test waveform generator
benkay: once had to design a nightmare of a cable harness for wafer probing.
benkay: kinks can even induce reflections if your application's sensitive to 'em.
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asciilifeform: the 'lumped element model' of electronics was ok for the first half of 20th c.
asciilifeform: a kink in the cable - an inductor.
asciilifeform: at this point, even cable monkeys, afaik, know this - because at high frequencies, a wire is a capacitor
asciilifeform: just some are larger than others.
asciilifeform: in the russian wankasphere, at the time, there were countless wags suggesting nominating the drunk for 'order of lenin'
the20year2: do they put caps in styluses?
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asciilifeform: incidentally, capacitance of the body is not mere trivia, but modern mobile gizmotry lives and dies by it (touch panel.)
the20year2: that's more than double 100pf , right?
asciilifeform: homework: calculate 'if the chinese jumped.'
asciilifeform: if we take the 69 million available men figure,
mircea_popescu prepares to fall over laughing.
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asciilifeform: let's take the 100pF value, conservatively.
asciilifeform: because we're madmen, let's actually calculate this.
bounce: all the while "yourpass" sits in the process list for all to see
asciilifeform: but still interesting that people bother.
asciilifeform: the 'zorro' thing isn't a mega-news, on account of it being a kind of 'castrated' aes variant
mircea_popescu: and this to be done after all processes involved ended.
mike_c: ok, thanks.
mircea_popescu: a good approach is to search everywhere for another string in the history file, then wipe your password from everywhere you found keeps a copy.
mircea_popescu: yes. the shell only flushes the session at times.
mike_c: assume i am not worried about someone raw-reading my hdd. are there other attack vectors?
mike_c: true or false: if i type a password into my shell, and then call 'history -c', i am ok?
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user eskimobob: Level 1: 0, Level 2: -1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=eskimobob | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=eskimobob | Rated since: Sat Jun 4 12:35:57 2011
mircea_popescu: there, i've now robbed peter to pay paul.
benkay: i don't see my name there...
mircea_popescu: but seriously now, i fail to see what it offers. i mean i suppose one could loot their github for code, and the site could be just a demo.
benkay: o i thought the excuse was =========
mike_c: but if you use gpgauth and they get hacked, you have an excuse. so it's ok. like when your site goes down because aws goes down, built in excuse. </sarcasm>
asciilifeform: or something like that
mircea_popescu: and then hope that both gpgauth and your link to it is also secure.
mircea_popescu: benkay no i understand that. but if you use it, you have to still secure your site,
mircea_popescu: nefario trying the kenna trick.
benkay: mircea_popescu: re gpgauth.org, that doesn't store private keys though.
asciilifeform: in usa (and colonies) - a fellow who sells actual solutions to 'social problem' crapola is liable to 'begin to have problems.'
asciilifeform: these things actually work.
asciilifeform: incidentally, the same tech could easily test the composition of a drug (pharmacy or back alley, user's choice)
asciilifeform: (SRAM with immunoreactant crap permanently bonded to the capacitors) ☟︎
mircea_popescu: "i got hiv from sharing the hiv tester with a hiv sufferer"
asciilifeform: i believe the gizmo in question used a 'microarray'
mircea_popescu: who reuses a hiv test ?!
mircea_popescu: after that major scare a few years back
mircea_popescu: i know pron companies now use something on the sets.
mircea_popescu: this seems to work the same way neh ?
asciilifeform: could've been used by civilians prior to putting on condom, etc.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not this one. a re-usable, electronic gizmo that took a few min.
asciilifeform: 'fell from a strawberry tree' ?
the20year2: Although you could also blame it on lynshenkoism (sp) which kind of is a statistical thing there too
asciilifeform: and is not to be found at pharmacy.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not banned as such. but the 'holy grail' that could have eradicated the virus, a pocket-sized instant electronic gizmo, sat in a glass case at one of my old employers' facility
mircea_popescu: twas holodomor too
mircea_popescu: wait, hiv testing is banned in the us?!
the20year2: Didn't all those people die during holomodor due to USSR's amazing statistics & record keeping?
asciilifeform: when the usg banned the instant 'hiv' tester device, the argument, if i recall, was that people would kill themselves on learning the result, if no surrounded by government-approved shrinks ☟︎
mircea_popescu: let's see... if some guy needs an operation and the insurance won't clear it because they judge he's too old/poor/etc, and he dies
asciilifeform: i can think of one example
mircea_popescu: in the sense they are "related" to tobacco
mircea_popescu: i wonder how many deaths are "related" to statistics
chetty: no such thing as social problems