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asciilifeform: yeah i can see it.
asciilifeform: and i never saw 'luke', but it looks neato.
mircea_popescu: it's an old leisure suit larry idea. I SAW THE FACTORY
shinohai: I saw that on trilema, so I know it's possible.
asciilifeform: this is ftr the WORST possible kind of tech, which is why i even mention it here:
mircea_popescu: well then may i recomend a tardis.
mircea_popescu: i think they use a mechanic plucker, ~beat carcass with sticks
asciilifeform: i might have to use mircea_popescu's method. but it will take thousand years, because my proper pillow had 0 feather stems.
shinohai: I bought a down pillow at JCPenny but has been a bit
asciilifeform under voodoo curse; 50-year-old genuine feature pillow finally detonated in the wash, made for 2+hrs of wetvac, and 'where the fuck do i get one of ~these~' experience
shinohai: I was looking into that time when Ver doxed the guy over (at the time) $50 and found that gem
mircea_popescu: anyway, as far as "online web industry" is concerned, definite signs of a trumpocalypse. sort-of how there was a pre fdr and a post fdr or a pre lincoln and post lincoln america ; there's going to be i suspect a pre-trump and a post-trump web
thestringpuller: all the SEO people I know ended up going into machine learning
mircea_popescu: dude, you have no idea, i was looking at trilema article earlier and had nfi what it's supposed to be, even.
shinohai: Which I freely posted 4 weeks ago and nothing happened.
shinohai: Best I can tell he posted a link to theymos' personal info
mircea_popescu: well, a whore is the sexually active girl who won't fuck you ; and the alpha is the dude she'll fuck in preference. i'm pretty sure that's the extent of the common ground, ie, the "community" definition.
asciilifeform: unrelatedly, https://triton.quarkslab.com/documentation/doxygen/py_ast_page.html << possibly spiffy, i have not tried
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that was actually the part i found to be the puzzler -- who exactly are these.
mircea_popescu: (how the fuck anyone even marginally conversant in the respective topics manages to wade through the bullshit is anyone's guess. but somehow a concept for group role in evolutionary biology became a brand of identity in "evolutionary biology", and we're all speaking of "alphas" and "betas" as if these are a thing, a brunette, a beta. i guess in a very postmodern cartoonish sense they are. aanyway.)
mircea_popescu: it's becoming quite evidently a poor-white-vs-poor-black dynamic, now that i think of it. "engineer" is there in the sense "ceo" is there in soap operas as the symbolic job of the husband. not like he ever does any ceo-ish things.
mircea_popescu: i suppose that's actually the demographic underlying the conceptual oddity, "red pill" subculture is mostly low wage rural whites, who work for a highway diner, go in afghanistan, etc.
asciilifeform: i thought when 'good boy went on deployment,' it is 'rear rat' who fucks his wife
pete_dushenski: i don't know ?
trinque: pete_dushenski: I dunno that gates was ever cool, just in "the media" lots.
pete_dushenski: trinque: and yet that impotent nerd character is 'supermanised' into bill gates, swordfish hackers, and snowden in the same breath. not that i have a model for this duality.
pete_dushenski: i read it as "no one asked the untermensch what they think, but isn't it funny to get a glimpse inside of what they think they think" (part cccxiv)
asciilifeform: possibly because i find the underlying wank that provoked it, quite mysterious
ben_vulpes: gotta wail together or it doesn't work i guess
trinque: "I reject the continual erasure of sex workers from our feminisms" << lel
pete_dushenski: does nigerian prince have own entry ? "look, i'm real! my wiki says so!"
pete_dushenski: more lulzy spam today, "This is the only available means of communication to me, so I crave your indulgence to kindly read my email and I'll start by introducing my self, my name is Aisha Gaddafi the daughter of Muammar Gaddafi, the deposed and deceased former president of Libya. I am currently residing in Muscat the capital of Oman under political asylum along with my remaining three kids. Copy this
pete_dushenski: reading journal entries from those years definitely sounds like i can soulcancer.
pete_dushenski: don't need to tell me, i cashed their paycheques for years.
ben_vulpes: moreover i live in clackamas county, where civilized men load the children and whiskey into the trucks and go plow each others streets for fun.
pete_dushenski: i have nfi. assumed you (or landlord) paid prop tax, gas tax, parking ticket tax, whatever else
pete_dushenski: at least this is my impression from reading ch. been a few years since i was in portland
ben_vulpes: ("i know what this entirely figured-out industrial process needs -- more steps and parts!")
mircea_popescu: so i just ran a count and among the ~4k or so different names, there's a <Nick_Szabo> !
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: you'll be pleased to hear that i resurrected cycling season today. +2C and studded winter tires were a combo i couldn't pass up. route that takes 25min in the summer took 35 through the snow and slush. will be trying for once a week going forward, weather permitting.
ben_vulpes: i'm sure the nukes are in fine condition.
trinque: when I had two kittens around, I just folded the things in half until they got the message
shinohai: I mean, we *all* have to learn how to lick buttholes.
asciilifeform: shinohai: i thought it was edgar poe who warned.
shinohai: This is what you get for digging graves for cats at midnite asciilifeform ..... I think Samuel Clemens warned about things like this happening.
asciilifeform: i read reddit/hn, & co., for a short while because it had a subculture of commonlisp folx. then stayed tuned for no good reason for a spell, from inertia.
asciilifeform: fwiw i never saw it and don't have a feeling of having missed anything.
mircea_popescu: so i guess i miss out on most of the... what is it, "this used to be not bad" roots of the nonsense, much like my girls that started watching mtv in 2005 rather than the 90s.
asciilifeform: i didn't either. just bored.
mircea_popescu: i suppose if i gave half a shit about "online" and "the web" and whatnot in 2000s i might have read it too. as it happens, i didn't.
asciilifeform: at one point (mid-2000s) i quasi-regularly read hn. it always had a background hum of wagner/cyanide, but carefully filtered, the way slaughterhouse keeps the squeals isolated to one end of the conveyor, so as not to frighten the incoming pigs.
mircea_popescu: "I convinced my self for so long that whatever I was doing was going to be great and help lots of people, but it didn't."
asciilifeform: (why, i do not know, ask him not me)
mircea_popescu: i was reading some stupid shit online.
Ingolfr_Arnarson: k, i'm gone, until next time. :)
Ingolfr_Arnarson: i will know.
mircea_popescu: i dunno.
mircea_popescu: fwiw i wouldn't even consider the deal. pay, really ? heh.
Ingolfr_Arnarson: I am still trying to figure out the price, I'll let you know when the deal is settled.
Ingolfr_Arnarson: It's useless to try to make a contract to solve an issue because the contract is way less relevant than the way you maximize the probabilities of getting what you want (i.e. buying from a scammer vs someone who was doing well for long -can still turn into a scammer anytime but less chances).
mircea_popescu: i have no idea why you imagine the perisexual arrangements of a coupla people are notably important. seems to me to be by far the least important and least complex item there is.
Ingolfr_Arnarson: But I get your point.
Ingolfr_Arnarson: but i didn't say i wouldn't take a contract, it means you have just touched a sensitive point in my life due to the complexity of actors involved with different interests (she, me, her family) that we need to provide of part in the contract because of trying to live in peaceful terms with them after it and still get with our own plans.
mircea_popescu: oh i see
mircea_popescu: i dunno, a png i expect. same as here, neh ?
Ingolfr_Arnarson: and i agree wot is the best way.
Ingolfr_Arnarson: Of course I don't think that the 'ancap agreement' makes people fulfill it automatically by just saying they will, and there is an additional actual effective system needed to 'enforce' the agreement in a concrete way.
Ingolfr_Arnarson: I apologize for using the word violence, because I know it is already being used in many ways that can be used to distort a specific meaning put on a so much touched symbol. Maybe I should use another word without participation in the already established language games.
Ingolfr_Arnarson: I am afraid without the limits of qualias then everything is violence and if everything is violence then it is useless to even use a word for it.
Ingolfr_Arnarson: But did you ask your slaves how much violence from you they need in their lives? There is no problem in the question, because it is a question that can be asked to someone who can actually have a choice. The slaves don't, even if they'd rather have zero violence in their lives, you do have a choice, hence I can ask you the question.
mircea_popescu: phf i imagine it's descriptive, the end goal is supposed to be some sort of world where nobody can possibly get one upside the head no matter what.
mircea_popescu: the problem with your question is that it presumes an equality that's not there. i beat my slaves whenever they need it, though.
Ingolfr_Arnarson: mircea_popescu, Is violence is so good, may I ask how much violence do you need on yourself in your life?
Ingolfr_Arnarson: trinque, got it, actually I know I was just playing with the feature as when *muting* in a conference :P
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that's pretty much why i said "imagine" rather than suppose.
mircea_popescu: Ingolfr_Arnarson who the hell makes pngs out of text, srsly now. and how exactly is "anarcho capitalism" supposed to have morphed into this nonsense "i am afraid of the dentist" "nonviolence" bullshit ? violence is great for you ; arguably the best of the various available tools in nature's arsenal.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-18 01:57 Ingolfr_Arnarson: danielpbarron: I could answer to that saying that I only need judgment from people I interact directly , BUT maybe I am wrong so I will ponder about that statement.
phf: this exterminating angel looks neat, i'll put it in the backlog
mircea_popescu: as it happens i was just watching it, talk of coincidences.
jurov: what does it mean? i mean, semantically?
Ingolfr_Arnarson: (back on the phone, sorry, brb, if i do bb)
Ingolfr_Arnarson: trinque: If you replace "Ancap" by "Person" in this, it is how I define it. https://s27.postimg.org/7xfkjiokj/Ancap_Agreement.png
Ingolfr_Arnarson: danielpbarron: I could answer to that saying that I only need judgment from people I interact directly , BUT maybe I am wrong so I will ponder about that statement. ☟︎
Ingolfr_Arnarson: I have a definition under the ancap 'contract'
trinque: first comes the "fuck you I won't do whatcha tell me," then later one considers that in a competitive arena, things tend to sort.
Ingolfr_Arnarson: I heard there is a republic running in here. Also bitcoin could work as one if it doesn't fail in an unexpected way.
trinque: Ingolfr_Arnarson: where would I find another actual virtual nation?
Ingolfr_Arnarson: No but a lot of people have and are saying things better than I could.
Ingolfr_Arnarson: asciilifeform: I do not have a www created. Just owning www.ancapia.com, trying to design the best plan to make it a guide for people into voluntaryism or to turn it into an actual virtual nation conforming instructions. If possible. If I decide it is not, then I'll drop it and dedicate onto other projects I have.
trinque: actually I'll probably go ahead and sand off that rough edge; it's confusing.
phf: Framedragger: that movie about whores is nice. it's only spoiled by an occasional "poignant" bjork style soundtrack. i couldn't figure out if it's trying to cue you when you're supposed to feel sad, or if the director just likes that kind of music..
Ingolfr_Arnarson: I am a normal guy with a normal work, who for some strange life chances ended up into libertarianism (politics until turning full ancap) and around the bitcoin community here. There is where I knew someone who let me know about Mircea's posts and about this channel. I am into coding, into maths, physics and of course crypto. And trying to organize a better society without state. I think that's all that may be relevant to say now. Any questions?
mircea_popescu: i was thinking "hey, this is a recurring vulpes thing"
ben_vulpes: like i did two months before
ben_vulpes: nono i understand how it works now
trinque: I could go all UX designer over here but seems the opposite of urgent.
ben_vulpes: trinque: i see
Ingolfr_Arnarson: Mircea asked me to introduce myself before, I'll type about myself a bit now and then press enter.
mircea_popescu: i doubt it'll devoice you
ben_vulpes: Ingolfr_Arnarson: indulge me for a second, i'm going to down you and then would you up yourself?