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asciilifeform: if somebody can be arsed to find who/what/when/why, could be interesting
mircea_popescu: trinque my servers do the ~same
asciilifeform: loox like even this basic util, will have to go in cuntoo from asciilifeform's ( or trinque's ) vintage tarballs museum, rather than from 'current'
asciilifeform: trinque: fwiw i was able to measure mtu ~from~ dulap, using USE="tracepath" emerge iptools and tracepath -4 asciilifeformshouse
asciilifeform: trinque: i just noticed this, on dulap also, apparently some recent year's shitgnomism in gentoo mutilated traceroute
trinque: asciilifeform: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/jrs5Q/?raw=true << got this, dun see a "F="
asciilifeform: note that fragging takes place exactly 1ce, as only final destination ever unfrags. and in my case it happens right where my iron meets isp's fibertron.
asciilifeform: ( anybody else get different number ?? mod6 ? trinque ? et al )
asciilifeform: a ty mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: F=1500 here too.
asciilifeform: i.e. where they start getting fragalicious
asciilifeform: that there -- is the bottleneck
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: out of curiosity, wouldja be willing to traceroute --mtu 161.0.121.200 and say what mtu you got
asciilifeform: i did have a tiny shred of 'hm maybe modern gear reassembles', but it was just that, a lark
mircea_popescu: yeah. unless anyone throws in a good reason we're dropping the far range, this is nonsense.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: lol i did say. back in the gossipd thread.
mircea_popescu: i really didn't think it through, wtf is this 28355, 52181, 2600, 7269, 16286, 47627, 36352, 53247, 24192, 63568 bullshit, no one with any sort of networking experience would expect this to go.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman it occurs to me the work might also be misspecced. anyone have serious objections to moving to 1-2048 down from 1-65536 ? ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-09-24 13:56 asciilifeform: ( i long suspected that nothing far over 512, will reliably go )
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-24#1853560 << ah, this is what it was huh ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-09-24 13:50 diana_coman: hm, a first tiny pilot test of the UDP send/receive looks quite dire (4 in 20 made it, when sent in batches of 4, random lengths); however, I don't know if it's not just overflowing the out buffer to start with (since default value in /proc/sys/net/core/wmem_default is 212992 so real would be half that iirc)
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-24#1853549 << ouch. they made networking great again meanwhile also ?! ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( like that legend with prof who left unsolved problem as 'homework' on board, came back to find it solved )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: whoknows, one day you find out that one of'em ported it
mircea_popescu: i sometimes do it as learnpunishment for girls. but ample iron to punish with viz few girls need punished.
asciilifeform: there's ~0 to be gained from nursing sad iron, life is too short
mircea_popescu: me either, but as i said, makepile errors out and im not debugging this
mircea_popescu: yes well, mine's a 4.4.3 ; perhaps one day it'll be ave1 's, but that day is not today and so tough luck to the shitcard.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's the other end of that stick, the unspeakable salt mine crud that keeps asciilifeform's lights on
mircea_popescu: like, hard vacuum to pump you quite as neatly in sardine can not available anywhere else ?
a111: Logged on 2018-09-24 18:57 mircea_popescu: ah, and i bought a dongle for it ? the linux driver "requires" gcc 4.9
mircea_popescu: oh, is this part and parcel of all the "luxuries keep me bolted down in usgistan that i could never have anywhere else" line ?
a111: Logged on 2018-09-24 18:54 mircea_popescu: wtf, wired laptop, what sense does that make.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-24#1853710 << can laugh if you like, but asciilifeform uses room fulla lappies, and most of'em never leave the copper lan ☝︎
mircea_popescu: lmao windows quotes, that's classy.
asciilifeform: realtek also worx, though not nearly as reliably
asciilifeform: it dun even switch on w/out a large fw turd, which i'm guessing mircea_popescu did not have
a111: Logged on 2018-09-17 08:05 ave1: In other news, some lulzy drama underway in the Linux kernel camp; https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CA+55aFy+Hv9O5citAawS+mVZO+ywCKd9NQ2wxUmGsz9ZJzqgJQ@mail.gmail.com/
asciilifeform: oh almost forgot, another phunphakt, in orig torvalds surrender papers, http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-17#1850713 : winblowz uniturd quotes . ☝︎
mircea_popescu: model TL-WN823N(EU) v3.0
asciilifeform: ( at least even if only to put in 'this -- pig shit' file )
mircea_popescu: aite, ima fetch teh details.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what nic was this even
mircea_popescu: wasted a slave half-day chasing the nonsense blergh.
mircea_popescu: im trashing the whole worksheet, unless you want something from it.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i dun think i ever got even as far as this, with a radio nic made post-'08; yer ahead of me
mircea_popescu: (not to even mention they ship a fucking cd with the dongle, the fucktards, on which there's autorun and windows bs. the linux stuff -- get from our website. ON A CONNECTIVITY DEVICE. then they wanna talk about "code of conduct" ? HOW THE FUCK ABOUT NOT.)
mircea_popescu: ah, and i bought a dongle for it ? the linux driver "requires" gcc 4.9 ☟︎
trinque: can in theory replace with a known workable card
trinque: yeh most of these are separate mpcie card, though the point remains
asciilifeform: this was in the not-soldered dayz
mircea_popescu: a pity, too, it's light and nice monitor.
asciilifeform: 0 soldering, thing had a lid
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the sad-802.11 thing is endemic ( recall asciilifeform's recipe of how to terraform ibm x60 . step 1 is to pull out the wireless nic and stuff in ye olde atheros )
mircea_popescu: but the point remains -- they're still ~useless (or amstan-useful, if you prefer). literally better of without 'em.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there's some % who actually endrivered various new iron. e.g. dulap kernel built for arm64 won't actually boot on rk, needs the little bit of chinesium ( i have it laid out, fwiw , mostly, specifically for when we pour cement )
mircea_popescu: wtf, wired laptop, what sense does that make. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: hey, linux ~already useless for any practical purpose. you know i have a trashed hp envy sitting here because trhere's no way to run the wireless on it ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: e.g. the chinese rk people
asciilifeform: most of'em prolly not even smelled the smoke yet
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: as i understand, most of what thing consisted of, was massive gaggle of iron maker sponsored driver-makin' folx
mircea_popescu: what "purges" ? who the fuck would stay on with shitux.
asciilifeform: as for the 'code of conduct' liquishit, apparently thing is written by some purpose-built pantsuit org in berlin, and standardized, and right after l. signing the instrument of surrender, the purges kicked off
mircea_popescu: can't help but like the soviet peons more than the usgistani zeks.
asciilifeform: ( for folx who aint sov-entomologists : pavlik morozov was a kid who turned in own father to dekulakizers. for this, grandfather beheaded him with axe. and kid was made into an Official 'hero' )
mircea_popescu: and the punishment for "what if i don't" is... "they will".
mircea_popescu: if you don't control your women, you're stuck making public laughingstocks of them. there's no "third way".
mircea_popescu: this'd be the counterpoint to "omfg, mp will publish anything". sure, he will. "it's exaggerate!". sure, it is.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: fwiw i had nfi linus even had daughter. then apparently find, he does, and she's 'pavlik morozov'
a111: Logged on 2018-09-24 04:54 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-24#1853486 << twist : turns out linus has 'intersectional-feminist'(tm) daughter, who helped to break him
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-24#1853526 << illustrating the problem here : if man has a moron daugther but does not say "oh, i have a moron daugther", he is in obvious danger of "and she made me a moron too". ☝︎
asciilifeform: benjies only work because they eventually return to 'miami', sorta like yer mains socket only worx because current able to go in the neutral pin
asciilifeform: i guess disney had one possible answer re the 'wat', http://66.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lja7aorWsU1qze0z6o1_1280.jpg
BingoBoingo: Frente Amplio burns the benjies while inflating the peso and everyone frog boils into poverty.
asciilifeform: even per this 'logic', seems like there's a loose end -- so, ok, they sell, SELL, only. bags of benjies -- go in. ~then~ wat. ☟︎
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> mighty lotta cheek, for folx who torment a 300 $ crate in tariff hell, to prattle about 'international marketing' << They don't want buying. See they only want to do the SELLING part.
BingoBoingo: They also have ads in the other Uruguay WTC tower lobbies advertise "Work in the best place to live"
asciilifeform: mighty lotta cheek, for folx who torment a 300 $ crate in tariff hell, to prattle about 'international marketing' ☟︎
BingoBoingo: International marketing, networking, and the usual bread and butter. There's an advertisement station in front of the closed zoo that they seem to favor. ☟︎
BingoBoingo: There's even advertisements on the streets for events at "World Trade Center - Punta del Este"
BingoBoingo: Uruguay has a petite Miami light about 90 km east of Montevideo every summer. The police there even catch the street sleepers for redistribution to other parts of the country.
asciilifeform: relatedly, phunphakt, all of asciilifeform's packets to/from BingoBoingostan, relay through 4.68.72.61 : nsa station in miami. ☟︎
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i've yet to meet the orc who did not say 'mine is a poor country.' after all, so far from miami.
BingoBoingo: Oh, they'll flat out say Uruguay is a poor country ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-09-24 15:55 asciilifeform: this is a potentially dangerous arse-mouth system.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: eh they 'acknowledge', in the sense of 'obummer did it'
asciilifeform: 'samba si, trabajo no'
BingoBoingo: Well, the Argentines also didn't acknowledge their poverty
asciilifeform: as i understand, this is how mircea_popescu ended up setting bozo bit on argentines. 100% pig-os.
asciilifeform: cuz the answer is nearly always 'not only less slop, but butcher shop' and conversation stops there.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i've found that it is normally impossible to explain any such thing to folx who operate in 'pig logic', i.e. 'would there be moar? or less?, slop in my trough?'
BingoBoingo: But hey, everything is great and peachy for them because Starbucks is getting joined by H&M on October 6th
BingoBoingo: "BCU targeting a 7% inflation rate just might be why you are all being frog boiled into increasingly deeper poverty"
BingoBoingo: I try explaining this to the locals when they reminisce about the 2005-2015 good old days
asciilifeform: ( i dun think, e.g., lichtenstein, worries re 'leaking dollars' )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: as i understand, orcistani rulers are perfectly free to stop out-inflating the usd, and then can quit worrying re 'leaking hard currency' any time they want
BingoBoingo: A third delivery service Rappi (Argentine like Pedidos Ya) arrived aroudn the time Uber Eats did and seems to be holding last place in that niche
BingoBoingo: Which, well... by all apearances Uruguay leaks a substantial amount into Uber. Recently "Uber Eats" bicicletas have appeared in numbers that almost rival the Pedidos Ya bicicletas and motorcycles.
a111: Logged on 2018-09-19 18:17 mircea_popescu: what i meant by "mercantilism" is that they do not want the locals to leak dollars back into the ubers of the world.
asciilifeform: 'oh noez, bus could take moneybags to some OTHER street'