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ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: 190.172.13.251 is dead << confirmed

ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: if i'd like to bootstrap a thermonuke off your previously mentioned node, do i need whitelisting?

ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: regarding build script: http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2015/06/21_a-tour-of-bitcoind-booting-to-its-first-thread.html#ak47.sh

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, et al: who is still using testnet? and for what?

asciilifeform: i would like to ask the fine gentlemen to read this and the antecedents (ben_vulpes has a pretty good review on his www)

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, et al:

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 190.172.13.251 is dead

mircea_popescu: ag3nt_zer0 you familiar with the fantabulous history of the gauss copula ?

ag3nt_zer0: mircea_popescu: thanks for the response... I am confused about this: "and the fundamentally flawed proposition that for this reason, it is more important to interpret phenomena through history than through any other lens." -is this how traditionalist discourse treat phenomena? exclusively historically? and also: you say taleb can provide a damaging critique of traditionalism? May I kindly ask, whose? What authors/thinkers

mircea_popescu: ag3nt_zer0 the entire thing started with the absolutely correct observation that words have i nfact no meanings, not anymore than any one website has google pagerank. a theoretical model was proposed where meaning of all words is produced through iteration, exactly in the same manner pr is calculated (and this is why google used to be notable - it implemented a major tenet of culture at the time)

ag3nt_zer0: mircea_popescu: yeah ok, after looking up structuralism, I was just hung up on the idea that if humanism is constructed on erroneous principles, and is structuralism is a reaction to humanism... then its just doubly wayward...

assbot: Logged on 22-06-2015 23:32:50; ag3nt_zer0: trinque: shotgun definition: orientation toward a suprahuman or transcendental "dimension"

assbot: Logged on 22-06-2015 23:24:56; ag3nt_zer0: trinque: well I had no idea what structuralism was but read something by mircer_popescu and at the end he said "welcome to the post-post- structuralist world that the internet has enabled" or something to that effect... that got me looking at structuralisma dn post structuralism and I was just confused because what I read was that structuralism was a reaction against humanism -and- tradition,, but as far

mod6: (have been having to add `#define __STDC_LIMIT_MACROS \ #include <stdint.h>` to the start of net.cpp, util.cpp, and wallet.cpp for some bizzare reason)

ag3nt_zer0: mircea_popescu: yes some, not enough, far from done...

mircea_popescu: ag3nt_zer0 but have ye read the logs ?

ag3nt_zer0: mircea_popescu: yeah i am looking for alternatives that's why I asked about btc and ed... is this question a simple "where does the trust lie?"... btw you know those cuddle-puddle poddies they have all the students arranged in now? You know, the ingenious design that promotes cheating and distraction and love? Those are fucking MANDATORY in some districts... teachers couldn't sit them all facing forward if they wanted

asciilifeform: and mircea_popescu answered 2!

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, et al: 2 items for consideration: 1) what version string is to be used in the first public therealbitcoin nodes? the current one doesn't seem appropriate 2) anyone have existing nodes (of whatever variety) to 'get a light' from? i'd prefer these to 'wild' mysterymeat

thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: everytime you shoot this nigga in the head he comes back to fucking life.

assbot: Logged on 22-06-2015 23:01:12; ag3nt_zer0: so, if structuralism and post-structuralism are reactions against "traditional" humanism, and "tradition" in general (which seems untenable given that I see Traditonal metaphysics as opposed to humanism), would post-post-structuralism be pro-traditionalism to some degree?

mircea_popescu: ag3nt_zer0 ironically enough, im sure teaching will be fine. schools tho... hard to say.

mircea_popescu: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25625347/PGP_Pub.png << yeah that's pretty great.

mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes it would by the very fact of connecting. shows you its ip

assbot: Logged on 22-06-2015 19:07:18; ascii_field: which is, i suppose, as it should be. but means that: we need seeds.

assbot: Logged on 22-06-2015 19:07:07; ascii_field: i will remind readers that 'irc on butcher block' means a 100% reliance on seeds we enter in config. and also on specifying node's external ipv4.

trinque: ag3nt_zer0: having read the foreward, looks interesting; I'll probably have it read in a few days

ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> so maybe the "doesn't work" vs "worked 3 days ago" is simply that you ran yours for a day and ben_vulpes ran his for fifteen minutes. << it just strikes me as unlikely that a node is going to connect to precisely the room i'm in and then bless me with a usable IP addr

trinque: ag3nt_zer0: thanks, I'll put it in my queue to read

ag3nt_zer0: trinque: this is what's up my butt... maybe I am obsolete but my intellection seems to have plateaued here: http://tohno-chan.com/ddl/src/Rene_Guenon_-_The_Crisis_of_the_Modern_World.pdf

trinque: ag3nt_zer0: more pointedly, I tend to assume that where someone makes broad generalizations about "being", they've actually given me a command

trinque: ag3nt_zer0: I see roughly what you're pointing at; what do you make of it?

trinque: ag3nt_zer0: how do you define traditionalism?

ag3nt_zer0: trinque: well I had no idea what structuralism was but read something by mircer_popescu and at the end he said "welcome to the post-post- structuralist world that the internet has enabled" or something to that effect... that got me looking at structuralisma dn post structuralism and I was just confused because what I read was that structuralism was a reaction against humanism -and- tradition,, but as far as i understand, ☟︎

trinque: ag3nt_zer0: structuralism smacks of "that stolen-from is not your stolen-from; it's all of ours"

trinque: ag3nt_zer0: no offense but I have no idea what you just said

jurov: ag3nt_zer0: you can now !up yourself

trinque: ag3nt_zer0: given what an extraordinary intelligence asset google hypothetically "could" be it's inconceivable that they are not

trinque: ag3nt_zer0: yup, "ok google"

ag3nt_zer0: anyone else see this?: http://news.google.com/news/url?sr=1&ct2=us%2F1_0_s_0_1_a&sa=t&usg=AFQjCNGXNGPBMfwnUjDkQ50881YdL1b3IQ&cid=52778884659320&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.techworm.net%2F2015%2F06%2Fgoogle-chrome-secretly-downloads-an-audio-listener-to-your-pc-that-can-snoop-on-you.html&ei=bo-IVainNMHsmALdxKO4Dw&rt=SECTION&vm=STANDARD&bvm=section&did=-2365193554698942914&sid=-2195956548148024079&ssid=cstm&at=dt0

williamdunne: ag3nt_zer0: Thats my point

trinque: ag3nt_zer0: worked for the scientologists though

trinque: ag3nt_zer0: seems to me you can't fix education in its present form.

williamdunne: ag3nt_zer0: 4chan board

cazalla: ag3nt_zer0, not from /pol/ are you ?

trinque: ag3nt_zer0: howdy bub

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jurov: !v assbot:jurov.rate.ag3nt_zer0.1:2e1c33c6523854294ce76c0385e143a9600c5e02c9164ae65268f0d12ed646f6

jurov: !rate ag3nt_zer0 1 n3w bl00d

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jurov: !gettrust ag3nt_zer0

jurov: !up ag3nt_zer0

assbot: Logged on 22-06-2015 20:24:39; mike_c: only bug I see is euros are way overpriced.

williamdunne: mircea_popescu: Not really scared of bulls, but I don't want to share

mircea_popescu: ascii_field one day ima have an original thought. i swear.

mircea_popescu: ascii_field this goes right into our discussion about how the only reason lisp is ok where c is shot is that the hordes haven't sat on lisp but on c, would have been the other way around if they had sat the other way. ☟︎☟︎

mircea_popescu: "one can only imagine what having to lie to your compiler _every_ day and to make unwarranted guesses that your colleagues will depend on the same way they depend on your hard-earned knowledge _does_ to a human brain -- I know I couldn't handle even the prospect of it." << ya ya. welcome to real life (tm). this is what it is. exactly. there shall never be an escape from it, it is the indelible mark of superiority,

williamdunne: mircea_popescu: I thought it was quite interesting that Romanian doesn't distinguish between to win and to earn though

felipelalli: trinque: you're right, my question was if ascii_field did program in scheme before.

felipelalli: ascii_field: are you a scheme programmer too? If yes, which dialect?

williamdunne: mircea_popescu: Sure, I guess thats kinda my point

williamdunne: mircea_popescu: Wife was simply for their understanding, I'm not particularly concerned with the idea of marriage

mircea_popescu: ascii_field even cpp. let's model this on the act of telling a joke.

ascii_field: mircea_popescu: c - no

williamdunne: mircea_popescu: Well, I didn't realize quite how deep SJW'ism was engraved into the souls of them

ascii_field: mircea_popescu: i had almost 100% same convo with a maths type who hated programming

asciilifeform: !up ascii_field

mircea_popescu: ah which reminds me. ascii_field you ever seen pulp fiction ?

williamdunne: mircea_popescu: Aha

assbot: Logged on 22-06-2015 17:04:08; williamdunne: ascii_field: Sorry, still not home. Keeps getting delayed. Probably won't be back until Wednesday D:

mircea_popescu: !v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.isaackl.-1:72d3d56f7ac65a6e331b6b725cce0e408b21cf3a566d2340ca65326776f66734

assbot: Logged on 20-05-2015 10:08:38; mircea_popescu: i prefer to not communicate lol. do your job, report the methodology and results once you're done. you got a blog ?

mircea_popescu: !v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.Drhelmut.1:6d6dc0f4b800d51f6f275f4a001247e02f9e809fbfc19fcc7bc78cceb76dff3a

mircea_popescu: mike_c oh, is that where the whole family gathers around to do osanali and genereally worship you ?

assbot: Logged on 22-06-2015 15:54:55; ben_vulpes: bunch of half-int btc holders talking about making markets?

mircea_popescu: mike_c yo mikey! you missed the event!

williamdunne: mircea_popescu: Some teamspeak thing for price speculators

williamdunne: mircea_popescu: Bid/Ask of same value and with positive quantity

asciilifeform: !up ascii_field

ascii_field: mircea_popescu: competing with 16yos is how you end up fucking 16yos << hence why i said 'home turf'

mircea_popescu: funkenstein_ interesting how contradictory the proposition is huh

ascii_field: it is absolutely relevant unless you are mircea_popescu, flyer of atomic dirigible

mircea_popescu: ascii_field the point was that location's irrelevant, there. which it is, or do you dispute ?

assbot: Logged on 21-09-2014 16:28:55; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what's he to do in argentina? teach the pampas cats and ocelots common lisp ?

ascii_field: mircea_popescu: the conjecture was based on an old thread re: naggum

assbot: Logged on 22-06-2015 14:33:29; asciilifeform: i can already picture mircea_popescu's 'recipe': 'naggum should've moved to argentina' 'me: with what' 'mircea: with shirt on his back' 'me: doing what' 'mircea: sharpening knives while living in dumpster' 'me: betcha he knew this, and didn't care for it'

ascii_field: mircea_popescu: l0l! angry mail?

williamdunne: mircea_popescu: Young as in 15

williamdunne: mircea_popescu: It means young looking

mircea_popescu: ascii_field well i plan to shoot a few schmucks first. so just as soon as they can line up enough schmucks willing to be shot.

ascii_field: so when will mircea_popescu be getting on the u.s. prison plane ?

mircea_popescu: ascii_field but to round it off : i am unimpressed with that utter fear of all usian pencildicks, "omg prison". seriously, lifetime pension ? tyvm. i am also unimpressed with the "difficulties" of "orcs" aka niggers in the us. i have never had a problem making sense of them or the reverse. and THIS is why i say the flight to suburbus is a purely sexual problem.

mircea_popescu: ascii_field see this is it, 4 floors everywhere.

ascii_field: mircea_popescu: we had elevators. which didn't work. fun on 15th floor

ascii_field re: yeast laugh: graps that mircea_popescu is speaking the basic frustration of every polymath on planet 3 when confronting numbskulls

mod6: <+mircea_popescu> something about the lock not being bsd or what was it << lol :D

asciilifeform: !up ascii_field

mircea_popescu: you ever seen birthday girl ascii_field ?

mircea_popescu: ascii_field i dunno about insects, but it is certainly a cheap if ineffectual way to assuage one's feelings of inadequacy.

thestringpuller: that's my mentors favorite quote btw ascii_field