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hanbot: <mircea_popescu> hanbot scheduled to patch ? << iirc this is second instance of query. i'll patch it this week, yes.
BingoBoingo: In other completely unsurprising finds the Linux cock writer is <b>MR.</b> "Coraline" Ehmke
BingoBoingo: non-standard is they let the white devil take their wimmins with him
asciilifeform: lol , gotta ask what then'd be a 'nonstandard' ?
BingoBoingo: Related: Will be sleeping at a hostel tonight after spanish class to keep in touch with my roots. That and people give me the heads up when its pizza night (free calories).
asciilifeform: 'Taipei police reportedly next handed Wilson over to the National Immigration Agency. Though Taiwan lacks an extradition agreement with the US...' << unsurprise
mircea_popescu: of course, they gave it a "happy ending", but it's fucking obvious what ~really~ happened.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo found bf/drug dealer, is happily working the ghetto streets now ?
asciilifeform: ( this is, i shit ther not, how they actually work, approx )
mircea_popescu: i can't begin to guess why it'd go nowhere, i mean, a) insulting people by using their own words often works (on retards, why would it not work on people who say what they mean & mean what they say ?) and moreover b) summarization works on everything else, why'd trilema escape it and c) wtf is this strategic superiority jazz and who ever heard of the rhino-mud-birthday-gift issue. and so on
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: hey, usg 3ringbinder talmud prolly decreed that they must try at least 11 times..
BingoBoingo: Whatever happened to sciencehatesMpsStalker
mircea_popescu: lulziest shit ever, there was at the time a whole redditactivism thing that aimed to (somehow) hurtfully & distressfully associate trilema with the expression.
BingoBoingo: Bitch only had to do three things: SOCKS and COCKS and Eulogy
mircea_popescu: speaking of stupid girlfriends of naggums : anyone recall the "obituary" lulz ?
BingoBoingo: Cucking is a thing!
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> what the FUCK are "poetry circles" ? what fucking circles ? something like http://trilema.com/2015/mps-very-brief-foray-into-a-poetry-forum/ ? or not even ? << That. Get high go to coffee shop with bongo drum, etc
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> so d00d linused himself on the stake, huh. << Linus is a line in the Wilson piece because presumably Wilson at least got his nut off with the little girl who fucked him
mircea_popescu: what the FUCK are "poetry circles" ? what fucking circles ? something like http://trilema.com/2015/mps-very-brief-foray-into-a-poetry-forum/ ? or not even ?
asciilifeform: so d00d linused himself on the stake, huh.
asciilifeform: imho there is substance to mircea_popescu's 'winblowz was created by supernumerary children who failed to find grave in time' hypothesis
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/09/on-bail-cody-wilson-surrenders-weapon-development-project-to-new-director-active-in-arts-and-poetry-circles/ << Qntra - On Bail Cody Wilson Surrenders Weapon Development Project To New Director "Active In Arts And Poetry Circles"
ave1: wow, that never happed to me yet, if the scripts somehow can cause this please report!
phf: well, the system in question also has empty /usr/include at this point. so yeah things got clobbered
phf: actually, that is what's going on! but i'm not sure how it got that way, because i've both tested adacore's gnat ahead of time, and also had it building things. something must've gotten clobbered
phf: by then adacore gnat gcc already managed to compile a whole bunch of stuff
phf: ave1: that is not what's going on
ave1: to debug it, just try to compile a basic C hello world with the AdaCore gcc (and also with the system gcc, with -v so that it shows you the paths)
ave1: phf: I suspect this modern systems has placed the C library and crt1.o etc in some wierd place
asciilifeform: for all i know, sanity requires typhus goin'round
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: could easily not be unrelated tho
ave1: phf, your error is in the AdaCore gnat gcc (gcc -version shows these boron.a directories)
mircea_popescu: it is the singular misfortune of the world that the sort of people who lived before computing lived before computing, and the sort living with computing are the sort we see around. i'd very much like these switched, give computers to that newman and give typhus to the current professor of logic.
mircea_popescu: if only c s lewis went to the same oxford as j h newman! what ample oddles of bellybutton lint'd have been spared the examination! how much better the prose, and the world resting upon it.
mircea_popescu: dude manages, 50 or so pages in, to fully explain the fucking problem. "i gave up on this idiocy because upon first serious examination -- idiotic". i can see that.
mircea_popescu: , of saying what the faith of the English Church was."
mircea_popescu: that it was but the work of accident, if there be such a thing as accident; that it had come down in the particular shape in which the English Church now receives it, when it might have come down in any other shape; that it was but a toss-up that Anglicans at this day were not Calvinists, or Presbyterians, or Lutherans, equally well as Episcopalians. This historical fact did but clench the difficulty, or rather impossibility
diana_coman goes to tweak the knobs again, will bbl
mircea_popescu: It did not produce this effect on Reding. Whether he had expected too much, or whatever was the cause, so it was that he did but feel more vividly the sentiment of the old father in the comedy, after consulting the lawyers, "Incertior sum multo quam ante." He saw that the profession of faith contained in the Articles was but a patchwork of bits of orthodoxy, Lutheranism, Calvinism, and Zuinglism; and this too on no principle;
mircea_popescu: formers were introduced; and nothing was wanting, at least in the intention of the lecturer, for fortifying the young inquirer in the doctrine and discipline of the Church of England.
mircea_popescu: "It was a capital lecture so far as this, that the tutor who gave it had got up his subject completely. He knew the whole history of the Articles, how they grew into their present shape, with what fortunes, what had been added, and when, and what omitted. With this, of course, was joined an explanation of the text, as deduced, as far as could be, from the historical account thus given. Not only the British, but the foreign Re
mircea_popescu: meanwhile i simply can't not quote this :
diana_coman: (it can be done though, if one really wants it, basically an Ada task to be repeated hourly, but I don't see the benefit to that)
diana_coman: receiver is always on, but there's not much point in sender being always on
diana_coman: btw, there is no "idle", no; sender sends and finishes, what idle? it'll get started again by a cron task
mircea_popescu: yeah, i don't think we're trying to study bursts or saturation here. rather a study of the route under best conditions so to speak.
a111: Logged on 2018-09-25 15:57 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-25#1854271 << that's what this is, dood. same size sent every hour "accross possible sizes"
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-25#1854302 -> I took that to mean he wants to select only those of a given size, hence ..yes, easy ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-09-25 15:40 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-25#1854241 <<< she;s gonna publish the code with the first batch of results, so anyone can / everyone's invited to replicate.
a111: Logged on 2018-09-25 15:37 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-25#1854224 << i don't think it is.
a111: Logged on 2018-09-25 15:58 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-25#1854282 << i don't get it, 50 packets / hour is less than 1 per minute. this can't saturate anything. are you doing the burst in the sense of just dumping all the packets on the interface in 2 s and waiting the 3598 other s idle ?
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-25#1854304 -> burst is burst so yes, dumping all without any delay; among other things that's why those pilot tests, to decide on/if delay ☝︎
phf: (the previous error i mentioned in logs was probably using same compiler before it was installed into its destination, because it was being invoked with explicit -B flags (-B flag points to compiler bits explicitly). this new failing bootstrapped compiler would work if provided explicit -B which makes me guess that some phase that was supposed to get compiler into knowing where its bits are failed.)
phf: well, i have some idea what's going on, the binutils build is attempting to use bootstrapped gcc, which in turn can't find its own link objects, one sec on log
mircea_popescu: "phf: the problem with publishing ununderstood spew is that you're potentially publishing forever"
asciilifeform: 'See `config.log' for more details.' >> what's in there, phf ?
mircea_popescu: just good to have, you never know what when where sparks.
phf: mircea_popescu, ave1 http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/QtjVR/?raw=true this was the log from the last invocation, but i'm not sure if it's representative of an issue. this was downstream from a handful of hacks and manual invocations
asciilifeform: makers of physical objects, i can reluctantly forgive for failing to produce shelfifier. but those of ideal objects -- for them there can be no forgiveness
mircea_popescu: ~this~ is the fundamental problem of the world, and the whole fucking point of gnosis (as the cvasi-religious movement) : creator was ~evidently~ fucktarded, nothing to be proud of.
mircea_popescu: most people emulate this by getting larger kitchen so headbang on cabinet less statistically likely. then they have more floor to clean.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: reminds of ancient convo b/w asciilifeform and pet : 'p : 'i want a shelfifier' a: 'you mean, a shelf' p : 'no, shelfifier' a: '...' p: 'device that produces shelf where and when needed, then removes' '
mircea_popescu: hanbot scheduled to patch ?
mircea_popescu: "but mp... eventually... you'll have to do SOMETHING." "yes, and even without that maybe eventually i will do something. this gives no one license to pretend the inadequacy of ontos is now gnosis' problem."
a111: Logged on 2018-09-25 16:15 mircea_popescu: hanbot any clue why the selection trick dun work on nicoleci 's blog ? was this not in the tree or ?
hanbot: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-25#1854317 >> as BB said, not in tree ☝︎
mircea_popescu: what people want is what people want, and then "what is available" tries to fuck with this.
mircea_popescu: "people are keeping their office uncluttered through sheer force of will, and there's a bunch of crap trying to rape this, such as 'ring binders'."
a111: Logged on 2013-12-22 16:56 asciilifeform: 'what people “want” is a function of what they learn is available. e.g., do Americans want three-ring binders, and Europeans four-ring binders? or do they want binders and take whatever number of holes they come with? or do they want something that can help them organize their papers and take whatever is available? or do they really want a less cluttered office and ease of storage and retrieval of the infor
mircea_popescu: this is not some "stylistical take", either. it is FACTUAL. exactly in the same manner of ring binder http://btcbase.org/log/2013-12-22#429394 discussion : ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i'm currently connected through the internet through sheer force of will, and there's a tcp thing trying to rape this.
asciilifeform: wouldn't go this far; dunno about mircea_popescu , but i'm presently connected to fleanode, trb, etc via tcp
mircea_popescu: all through the attempt the question would be "why did you expect martian poop is culinary item" and i'd have no answer and it'd drive me mad.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it does have the flavour of 'culinary shortcomings of dog shit' treatise, eh.
mircea_popescu: and i didn't write the lifestory of rms, and so on. not everyone is c s lewis.
a111: Logged on 2018-03-13 20:25 spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-13#1787759 <-- a-ha, mystery solved! Trilema has a <div class="post"> child to <span id="shash-...">, so that portion of the script selects it when the child is not a text node (the nodeType==3 bit). thetarpit DOM tree is flatter and doesn't wrap the content in this additional div. NB, will keep it mind should performance ever prove to be an issue.
BingoBoingo: It also turns out default theme needs some poking to make the selection magic work as per spyked http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-13#1787763 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i'm not writing the "lifestory of linus", either. for the same exact reason -- who the fuck is he ?
mircea_popescu: im not fucking writing that. i don't like tcp enough.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'catalogue of tcp braindamage' is prolly ripe for an article. ( sadly asciilifeform is mired in liquishit and prolly will not write it this wk )
mircea_popescu: "Discussion on how mircea_popescu does not like the new extension (v), as it fragments the sensata-perceptible identity of the v" << this is so fucking cute. what's sensata-perceptible, bimbo ?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> hanbot any clue why the selection trick dun work on nicoleci 's blog ? was this not in the tree or ? << It isn't in the mpwp v-tree, no
a111: 158 results for "from:asciilifeform tcp", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=from%3Aasciilifeform%20tcp
asciilifeform: !#s from:asciilifeform tcp
mircea_popescu: hanbot any clue why the selection trick dun work on nicoleci 's blog ? was this not in the tree or ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: "Bingoboingo is being questioned about having ‘two imports’" hahaha this girl.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i've been on and off looking through for the past coupla weeks.
mircea_popescu: phf paste the spew ?
asciilifeform: ( and there's megatonnes of shit iceberg beneath the tip, look some time at an actual implementation... )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the braindamage of tcp, iirc, is elaborated in buncha old threads
phf: my guess as to the issue is that the combination of flags required in order to bring up a "bootstrap" system has changed, bootstrap process produces a build that fails to stand on its own
phf: ave1: just fyi i punted on trying to get it operational on a "recent" linux. i hacked around the isystem issue, and ran into something else entirely downstream. also it is a "recent" linux issue, because it builds fine on as-heathen-as-it-gets centos 6.7 (2016 or so)
a111: Logged on 2018-09-25 15:23 asciilifeform: ( i.e. without the plaintext control messages, where any thirdparty derp can close your connection, infer contents via burst lengths, etc )
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-25#1854293 << tcp is truly a worthless piece of crap. the more one looks at it, the more one doesn't want anyone involved with it anywhere near his shit. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-09-25 15:05 diana_coman: aha; meanwhile playing here with the dubious UY->UK direction and I'd say it's pretty clear that bursts of more than 50 packets or so increase packet loss visibly; I suppose this makes for a nice thing to look at specifically once I get one week of data or so
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-25#1854282 << i don't get it, 50 packets / hour is less than 1 per minute. this can't saturate anything. are you doing the burst in the sense of just dumping all the packets on the interface in 2 s and waiting the 3598 other s idle ? ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-09-25 14:57 asciilifeform: diana_coman: i'd like to see a test where there is only 1 size, across various sizes, if possible
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-25#1854271 << that's what this is, dood. same size sent every hour "accross possible sizes" ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-09-25 13:37 asciilifeform: diana_coman: lemme know btw if you'd like to send me the sender and do a packet survival run to/from asciilifeformistan
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-25#1854241 <<< she;s gonna publish the code with the first batch of results, so anyone can / everyone's invited to replicate. ☝︎☟︎