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mircea_popescu: jcpham not quite
as retarded
as the people making them
pankkake: middlecoin is the perfect destroyer of altcoins,
as it immediately corrects value anomalies
mircea_popescu: "
As most of you will probably know, the Multiport on Multipool packs quite some hashpower, in excess of 750 MHash/second"
mircea_popescu: " Now, if you are doing this
as individuals, it doesn’t impact the overall network of that coin too much. Afterall, more mining power means a wider spread of the network, which also strengthens it."
gribble: You are identified
as user Duffer1, with GPG key id D5B0A00741A54A60, key fingerprint 68D283ADB0688306D98C5BE0D5B0A00741A54A60, and bitcoin address None
BingoBoingo: coingenuity: I'm going to have to ask. Seeing
as you advertise
as a retailer of precious metal in exchange for bitcoins. Is there an advantage to working though you I can not realize by simply going to trading coins for dalla dolla bills and calling APmex
BingoBoingo: So... Has Bitcoin hit peak scam yet? Last year was bad, but with all of the mining shitcureties, GoxFail, and miscellaneous are the scammers finally going to realize they are
as fucked
as mining bond holders?
thestringpuller: jurov: is gay, but he's not nearly
as annoying
as you catmeow_
Anduck: the hardware just isn't
as advertised but the bet wasnt about that
catmeow_: Anduck: well, a unit certainly shouldn't be regarded
as two seperate mining devices.
catmeow_: Are you guys concerned that BitBet might have been bribed by Anduck / pankkake to pass the bet
as yes, even though it was obviously a no?
pankkake: I can't ignore your many nicks. I could ignore all webchats,
as no one interesting is going to use the web chat
catmeow_: pankkake: given this new information, do you agree with the OP
as well?
pankkake: hmm no you're right, metadata.xml confirms him
as a maintainer (or is it proxy maintainer?)
gesell: pff OTC
as too high a premium
gribble: (seen [<channel>] <nick>) -- Returns the last time <nick> was seen and what <nick> was last seen saying. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself. <nick> may contain *
as a wildcard.
benkay:
as well
as asic water heaters
Luke-Jr: I would never live there
as it is now
Anduck: but people remembers france
as a loser country
pankkake: and I usually meet
as pankkake
wogwog_: Bitfurystrikesback.com (Bitfury EU reseller) will ship their 25 and 400 gigahash mining units before 1st of September 2013. Devices must meet advertised performance (25 GH/s unit 40W, 400 GH/s unit 400W) in order to be accepted
as valid. Atleast 5 deliveries confirmed by respected members of the community required.
wogwog_: which is why the bet says '
as advertsied'
Luke-Jr: the bet did not define it
as a 1M-board
Anduck: they're made to be
as energy efficient
as possible
wogwog_: dexX7: the 25GH unit performed
as advertised, since they could add another H-card... but that isnt possible with the 400Gh unit
mircea_popescu: we should make a bet on fractal's bet site
as to whether bitcoin.oz using the same ip
as wogwog and fractal makes it the same unit or not.
dexX7: wogwog_: more: the bet stated "Devices must meet advertised performance (25 GH/s unit 40W, 400 GH/s unit 400W)" and not "25 GH/s PER unit 40W" => unit is not used
as measuring unit, but
as label (e.g. "the product "25 gh/s miner" has to perform at > 25 gh/s & < 1 w / gh/s")
wogwog_: Anduck: if someone uses the same statements
as me, they must have been reading this chat, and think that i have good points to make.
wogwog_: dexX7: this is all noise --
as long
as the facts are laid out -- the unit did not perform
as advertised -- thats what matters
mircea_popescu: pankkake supposedly making money spamming is also a fact. tenouous
as it may sound.
dexX7: yesterday i asked about how much you invested and you mentioned that it's negatable, thus i believe your goal is not to be reimbursed, so i ask: what is your goal? being annoying
as much
as you can?
pankkake: wogwog: there is nothing to "out"
as it's public
wogwog: pankkake: too bad you were outed
as a paid shrill/troll
wogwog: no. i'm spreading the truth. that the bet was fraudlenty passed
as yes
mircea_popescu: her. So that the first and chief injunction that the god lays upon the rulers is that of nothing else are they to be such careful guardians, and so intently observant
as of the intermixture of these metals in the souls of their offspring, and if sons are born to them with an infusion of brass or iron they shall by no means give way to pity in their treatment of them, but shall assign to each the status due to his natur
mircea_popescu: heir generation, for which reason they are the most precious — but in the helpers, silver, and iron and brass in the farmers and other craftsmen. And,
as you are all akin, though for the most part you will breed after your kinds, it may sometimes happen that a golden father would beget a silver son, and that a golden offspring would come from a silver sire, and that the rest would, in like manner, be born of one anot
mircea_popescu: the earth,
as being their mother, delivered them, and now,
as if their land were their mother and their nurse, they ought to take thought for her and defend her against any attack, and regard the other citizens
as their brothers and children of the self-same earth. . . While all of you, in the city, are brothers, we will say in our tale, yet god, in fashioning those of you who are fitted to hold rule, mingled gold in t
pankkake: I left nvidia
as soon
as I could (decent open source drivers)
pankkake:
as it's a sunk cost, it would make sense to mine (unless electricity price is too high of course)
mircea_popescu: because people having their own private pensions makes it pretty impossible for the state flytrap to borrow
as nobody credits them
benkay: mircea_popescu: browser
as universal runtime
nubbins`: anyway, it could just
as easily be implemented in a static web page with a couple lines of javascript
ozbot: Using the Kobo Mini eReader
as a dynamic (BIP0032) Bitcoin tip jar
nubbins`: i've got some ideas about an e-ink based hardware wallet that i haven't fully thought through, maybe i could collect 600 BTC in an ipo
as well
nubbins`:
as if we're supposed to gasp and point
Luke-Jr: fractal_:
as I already said, Namecoin changed
pankkake: "Will MT. GOX be trading Litecoin
as a currency before the end of 2013? " why was this rejected? I don't how it is unverifiable
mircea_popescu: if indeed that's the case you'd have been much better served by making a "The Bitfury strikes back 400gh/s unit will not exist
as the 16 boards together will hash under 400gh/s"
fractal_: i placed the bet because i didn't think the hardware was going to perform
as advertised -- and it didn't
fractal_: nubbins`: it wasn't though. the 400Gh unit ,
as advertised, only does 365Gh.
nubbins`: anyway, a "unit" is obviously whatever they're selling
as "a unit"
fractal_: nubbins`: then that is the unit
as advertised..... the unit
as advertised here was 1M-board, 1R-pi, and 16 H-cards
fractal_: the fact is that the language ,
as written, requires a 400Gh UNIT to exist
fractal_: the bet required the hardware to meet performance
as advertised. it didn't
fractal_: this unit,
as advertised, doesn't do 400Gh
Duffer1: ThickAsThieves if I buy one xbond will that allow me to buy
as many pre-ipvo shares
as I can get my hands on, or do I have to redeem 1 xbond per neobee?
fractal_: this unit,
as advertised, did not meet performance specs
mircea_popescu: and
as far
as anyone kniows they'll get refurbished later to double performance or some shit
fractal_: Luke-Jr: not in this case -- the language dicatates that a unit is self-contained miner, not a collection of miners, due to it being advertsied
as such
Luke-Jr: nubbins`: but these WEREN'T sold
as discrete units
nubbins`: who cares that they were sold
as discrete units
fractal: mp: maybe if the bet was a NO ,
as it should have been, then there wouldn't be any issues
nubbins`: yes,
as you didn't state how full the cup should be
nubbins`: to be fair, i only started learning english
as an infant, but i'm pretty sure the word "must" is an absolute
nubbins`: okay, well, i see ~500GH/s and ~267W.
As long
as EVERYONE who ordered the "400 gigahash mining unit" receives a 400 and a 25, the bet is an obvious YES. If not everyone receives a 400 and a 25, the bet is an obvious NO.
Luke-Jr: fractal: you spoke
as if you were integrity42 and made no attempt to even implicitly deny it until now
fractal: also, I'll be monitoring the bitfury thread and waiting for punin to make more comments about what a 'unit' is.... I will post all of these so that people can see that your attempt to define a unit
as something other then 1M-board makes you look like a complete fool
fractal: they send me USD. i immeditaely convert it to BTC.... then i pay them out 50% of that over the lifetime of the virtual miner, and keep the other 50%
as profit
fractal: so now i'm selling virtual hashing units for USD that will never ROI in BTC terms.... i'm paying out 100% PPS, and pocketing the BTC differential
as profit
mircea_popescu: well no,
as a fiction it wouldn't. once it's live i'm curious how that works.
mircea_popescu: this is true now and it'll stay true
as best
as i can determine until we move on to writing c++ instead of english
mircea_popescu: i get that in a strong nominalist view you want this
as a no,
fractal: mp: the bitfury bet,
as timestamped, showed the 400Gh unit
as being hardware on 1M-board.
fractal: mp: so then why was the bitfury bet a yes when the hardware UNIT
as advertised didn't do 400Gh? but only 365Gh????????????
mircea_popescu: Bitkeeper debacle that described Larry McVoy
as mercurial (in the sense
kakobrekla: 03:01.18 ( kakobrekla ) feel free to use log data
as you plesae
kakobrekla: feel free to use log data
as you plesae
fractal: Luke-Jr: At this point, you're still free to try and define a UNIT
as something other then 1M-board attached to a raspberry pi.... but I think you'll fail... the thread is still there... go ahead.
fractal: thestringpuller: loaded question,
as its not objective. try again though.
thestringpuller: Good for you. Then when you crash and burn, will that fuel feed you
as you starve?
fractal: thestringpuller: negz... Again,
as I said... the negativity and doubting drives me.
fractal: a UNIT --
as defined by bitfury - is whatever fits on 1 M-board]
fractal: Luke-Jr: ok, I will retract my statement of not being prepared to lose
as my definition of being prepared to lose seems to differ to yours.
fractal: No I'm glad Luke-Jr posted that...
as you can see on the bitbet comments there were many posts outlining the 'truth' before the bet was closed --- I hope Luke-Jr retracts his statement that I was trying to rip someone off
fractal: sorry thats incorrect. the bet speaks to the units
as advertised
Luke-Jr: it's not
as advertised, but it does meet the advertised performance.
fractal: Since they can't provide 400Gh in 1 unit,
as advertised, the bet is a no.
Luke-Jr: ok, you're right it doesn't explicitly define unit
as the 2 boards, but neither does it deny it
kakobrekla: punin is not the same person
as bitfury fyi
Luke-Jr: it says the boards are falling short, and refers to the new 400 Gh total
as a single unit
fractal: Luke-Jr: I wasn't prepared to lose. I bet after the manufacturer admitted that the 400Gh unit would not perform
as advertised.
fractal: Luke-Jr: If the bet said that an Avalon Batch 2 Unit must do 60Gh, and you got 2 that did 50Gh each, does that make the bet a YES? The actual unit
as advertised didn't do 60Gh