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mircea_popescu: punkman: asciilifeform: cazalla: little to gain, plenty to lose
<< but they could at least vaguely describe their process/tools
<< asciilifeform yes, nobody requires them to send sample units. something like "we're buying atmospheric noise off random.org folks" or "sixty free cs servers, and we suck the urand pool dry" or w/e.
mircea_popescu: cazalla: question if anyone can help - is there a genuine security reason for someone to refuse to disclose how they generate entropy for the private keys contained in their physical bitcoin coin products?
<< not really, no. other than "we don't have a clue how it's done but this is sekoority and so being mysterious is the next best thing"
mircea_popescu:
<asciilifeform> who in his right mind would consider 'apple', for instance, if microshit did not exist
<< i don't run a windows machine. for me ms might as well not exist. however, i did get apple powered tablet to check out their game marketplace.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski: hmm do comments not yield trackbacks?
<< wut ?
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski: this represents a 200% greater loss than last year while revenue doubled.
<<< yeah, the time to short the pos approaches.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski: ;;later tell DanielKrawisz Looking forward to seeing you rationalize this gem
<<< i dunno, it's like the guy went off the deep end past coupla weeks.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: well, its not hard to beat "hi you have incoming ddos, I understand this can be frustrating as this type of attack is usually a sign that your droplet has been compromised"
<<< ahahaha wut ?
nubbins`:
<asciilifeform> he can swear to his gods that he didn't make copies, but what kind of proof could possibly suffice as proof to a skeptic ?
<<< probably no more than a few days of torture
mircea_popescu: "The Lisp newsgroup, comp.lang.lisp, was upset about the switch that they’re currently planning to write a competitor to reddit in Lisp, to show how right they are or something."
<< never happened, of course.
mircea_popescu: Over at reddit.com, we rewrote the site from Lisp to Python in the past week. It was pretty much done in one weekend.
<< lawl.
jurov: oh that. only if tim berners lee used them for html instead of
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jurov: asciilifeform
<< our thread last night
<< now i wonder why nobody's reusing ascii control characters (C0)
kakobrekla: but they could at least vaguely describe their process/tools
< we call the rand() function. twice.
punkman: asciilifeform: cazalla: little to gain, plenty to lose
<< but they could at least vaguely describe their process/tools
kakobrekla:
<cazalla> punkman, i thought so. i ask because this is the response i got when asking someone i'm looking at doing a story on "We believe there are a number of safe ways the keys can be generated by offline PCs, but do not disclose exact method(s) chosen for obvious reasons."
< if its a bad implementation, you in fact increase attack surface even further
cazalla: ben_vulpes: didja comment on their blorg?
<<< i'll give em time to respond via email first
BingoBoingo:
<ninjashogun> please pastebin into channel too
BingoBoingo:
<ninjashogun> this is a scammer - you can read my convo with him here:
BingoBoingo:
<gribble> Rating change | Old rating -10 | New rating: jason > -10 > ninjashogun | Begs for ratings, expects to gain -OTC ratings through 'relationships' rather than trades but not will even reveal his name, goes crazy with name-calling and baseless scam allegations. Judge for yourself:
http://pastebin.com/kLUHRrda mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: some derp host obv
<< "banned software" ? wtf is wrong with these people.
mircea_popescu:
<TomServo> 2014-09-09 Note: We have sold out and are waiting on the next production run batch which will be delivered in a few months. We are sorry for the wait, but if you pre-order now we will send you a $20 gift certificate.
<<< this is so braindamaged.
cazalla: punkman: I read "coinscrum" as "coinscrotum" for a second there
<<< you're not the only one
TomServo: asciilifeform: $5k - might as well be $5mil
<< For a toy, I agree...though they have some 'board only' options that come in the 675-1100 range.
mats_cd03: 13:34:45 — +asciilifeform wonders whether vendor is 'having problems' - considering that sdr is technically banned in usa
<< hows that? ham operators have had SDR for at least a decade, no mutterings as to illegality afaik
TomServo: sold out everywhere?
< Was my impression also. Though some sites say they'll be restocked early 2015
ben_vulpes:
<jurov> ben_vulpes: what about bitcoin-enema.org ? f9beb4d9.org
kakobrekla: game of cuckoo
< i once sent a guy to hospital cause of that game :\
mircea_popescu: jurov: prolly i can be never classified to work with usg sekrets
<<< you saw i lolled at the "medical devices" part yes ? :D
mircea_popescu: Naphex: a enterprise node, hook into trusted bitcoin core nodes over P2p protocol. Index and cache the data
<< this is not a bad idea.
mircea_popescu:
<punkman> I've also thought of signing the "lite" bundles
<< seems redundant. sign once, which you do, with the tx.
jurov: punkman: deeds are sha256 hashed, hash is b58encoded, b58encoded hashes of all deeds are joined with ",", that string is sha256'd again and that's the private key
<< ever heard of hash extension attack?
chetty:
<Mikayla> some movies they have a little too much ammo//some? a little too much? ,hah movies guns never run out of bullets
bounce:
<mircea_popescu> " regulatory oversight maybe at the national and international level, just to make sure that we don?t do something very foolish"
<< in a sense this is an open invitation for some agency or institute or whatnot to step up. "bring it before us and we'll pass judgement", with suitable PR to suitably spin it up and answer the inevitable "you and what army?" questions.
mircea_popescu:
<undata> but to what end, then?
<< you seen miller's crossing ?
mircea_popescu:
<TheNewDeal> perhaps, or it's not worth anything to anyone any more
<< that's pure nonsense.
BingoBoingo:
<TheNewDeal> well it's like this, you know at least some finite amount of worth was destroyed to generate new pile of shitcoin
<< Spz Dr. Evil burned all of the coins on Bitstamp to "fund" an altchain. What would that do?
mircea_popescu:
<decimation> at least, that's my understanding, would like to know if it's incorrect.
<< there's other ways to verify too, but this one definitely works.
mircea_popescu:
<PeterL> are you familiar with the deedbot?
<< exactly.
mircea_popescu:
<TheNewDeal> do you think that's true?
<< no, it's stupid.
mircea_popescu:
<cazalla> ya know, over the past month i've been reading articles, there has been many fluff pieces that keep pushing this idea that bitcoin the technology is what is valuable and not the "currency"
<<< yep. classic approach. "it's not the barrel that we're affraid of, it's the crazy shit stuck on all sides of rifle".
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: at some point, perhaps, a major mine operator will be pwned and his crown jewels throw to the mob. then we can study live code.
<< why would anyone do that ? it's difficult to trust the authenticity of a stolen thing, which is why theft is not an acceptable source of evidence in legal proceedings
BingoBoingo:
<mircea_popescu> asciilifeform: actual - doubtful
<< if i ever have to create you as a character, i'll have you watching the special olympics and then mutter to yourself "i wonder why they're trying to act handicaps"
<< I imagine this scene happening with alf in a tent. No context is given for the tent until he gets up to take a shit and the view sees the tend is in an otherwise pedestrian living room and emblazoned with the messa
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes: pool administrators determine block size, correct?
<< maximal.
mircea_popescu: undata: pretty ungrateful to call the guy retarded.
<< it's an act of love, you just don't know how the world works.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: actual - doubtful
<< if i ever have to create you as a character, i'll have you watching the special olympics and then mutter to yourself "i wonder why they're trying to act handicaps"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: i just love how the krugman shitgnomes prattle on about the need for physical 'use-value' in currencies and then go on to bid on apple-1 pcbs and jackson pollack paintings
<< they are stupid and how dare you demand they be consistent!
mircea_popescu: *: asciilifeform is not equipped with the evidence needed to agree (or not) with 'it's mostly ok'
<< the problem with the mostly ok thing is that intelligent people tend to build but loathe to maintain.
mircea_popescu: jurov: more like "inevitably idiotically yapping around"
<< myeah.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: >Increasingly scientists think there should be some regulatory oversight maybe at the national and international level, just to make sure that we don’t do something very foolish.
<<< like you know, turn everything on its head, making current arrangements obsolete