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Naphex: Standalone java, nio, is pretty high performance tbh
pankkake: in return it's easy to analyze
Apocalyptic: gotta love that fat VM
pankkake: a selling point of java is its simplicity (I'm gentle, I hate that aspect but well)
Naphex: i expect more vulnerable code from C guys then Java guys tbh
Naphex: and you clean the input through load balancers before fowarding in it
mircea_popescu: wywialm questions for the ages.
Naphex: plus you run it on isolated enviroment with no other vulnerable cruft there
Naphex: mircea_popescu: yeah, its not like its running in the browser
Naphex: php for some of the frontend with no handling of critical data
Naphex: Apocalyptic: java for the backend
Apocalyptic: what language then ?
Naphex: bounce: well for the trading engine i focused a lot on performance and security
mircea_popescu: jborkl that they apologise ? ya
jborkl: mircea_popescu you see the American Airways twitter reponse yesterday?
bounce: whatever you think is important about developing and running the exchange.
Naphex: bounce: setup of what, like the workstation?
benkay: i'm here thestringpuller
Naphex: danielpbarron: one of the main programmers behind it
asciilifeform: 'The Google Bus protesters have said that the company should build housing on its campus, but the Mountain View city council has explicitly forbidden Google from doing just that. They’ve argued that it’s to protect the city’s burrowing owl population.' << real estate parasites want to live too
Naphex: hoping to finish the data plant and eur support sometime next week
danielpbarron: do you run that site?
Naphex: already rolled out api, just need some accessors to help people with the public data
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hold%20up | hold up. wait a minute! postpone your plans, there's something that must be addressed immediately. hold up, let me grab some munchies before we get goin.
pankkake: first step is being on bitcoincharts I think
mircea_popescu: nanotube may help you with that, possibly also talk to tcatm (runs bitcoincharts)
mircea_popescu: anyway, this piece is pretty lulzy http://techcrunch.com/2014/04/14/sf-housing/
mircea_popescu: back then, it was."
mircea_popescu: "o hey, 200 years ago mark twain whom you've read though this place was pretty cool.
mircea_popescu: they'll be the 51th state of their respective local superpowers, and be used exactly like san francisco is used today
wywialm: and hordes of speciffically flavoured keynesians fearing the zero lower bound of interest rates, the called for fiscal expansion as a substitute
mircea_popescu: dude holy shit. san francisco is barely fucking notable, what is this navel grazing crap.
mircea_popescu: "Today, the tech industry is apparently on track to destroy one of the world’s most valuable cultural treasures, San Francisco, "
wywialm: that was before Kuroda at the BoJ, of course
wywialm: i remember some economists claiming that e.g. Japan couldn't inflate any further by printing money
wywialm: obviously true, at least in case of china.
mircea_popescu: they don't seem to want to.
mircea_popescu: of course they could.
wywialm: after all, inflating the currency is not so difficult
wywialm: if the dollar wasn't their main reference point and concern, PBoC could sustain their previous money growth at will
mircea_popescu: wywialm many possible reasons. they had a number of local crises brewing for a long time, when your neighbour is arrested for unkempt yard is a good time to do a little lawn mowing in your own.
mircea_popescu: so while it wouldn't be alaksa per se, there's plenty of places it can be. ☟︎
wywialm: why then the china monetary growth halts so rapidly when US QE3 is gradually folding, both in terms of dollar money supply growth and expectation of its future path?
mircea_popescu: http://en.voice-yemen.com/content/uploads/blog-64-china-exports.jpg this is illustrative.
mircea_popescu: and these are just the big ones
mircea_popescu: meanwhile it's a lot more complicated, they also peg to the euro, they also peg to a russian synthetic-currency derived out of energy holdings,
mircea_popescu: chinese banks were built that way briefly in the 70s, i would guess.
mircea_popescu: i don't see that claim.
wywialm: i don't believe china would need a pretext if they were sufficiently prepared
wywialm: china banking system is built upon dollar reserves, after they evaporate, china could only use military force. And when it comes to war, any claim can serve only as a pretext
mircea_popescu: not thaty hurt.
mircea_popescu: "china takes over alaska administration, in consideration of debts owed by us government"
wywialm: and banks are currently increasingly departed from their shareholders, too close to washington, dc
wywialm: i once gave it (the china matter) a thought, and currently i believe it is to weak a claim. in case of default, china would get much much more hurt than us
mircea_popescu: china holding us debt is no sort of statement of confidence in the usg, quite the contrary, it's a claim on its asshole.
mircea_popescu: banks reduce to their shareholders, and foreign sovereigns don't count
mircea_popescu: wywialm we were talking fo the {1%, 99%} set I thought
mircea_popescu: in other news, the bubble is having trouble
wywialm: from my knowledge, the highest exposure is interbank collateral, bank reserves and China
asciilifeform: both -> exposure to 'bail-in'
mircea_popescu: wywialm actually the exposure to treasuries is mostly pension funds.
Naphex: mircea_popescu: funny how people always remember the victim count :P
asciilifeform: yes, the one set up by kgb
wywialm: still, these people have some exposure to us treasuries - and yields are further than anytime from signaling default
asciilifeform: 'occupy lolstreet' is analogous to zhirinovsky's political party in the late ussr
bounce: s/less/& than/
bounce: so? hairline cracks are much less % of aeroplanes, but if you don't watch out the wings might still fall off
mircea_popescu: and the people that matter are the 1%, not the average fucktard on reddit/the metro.
mircea_popescu: wywialm this is why i made my linearity objeciton. it won't collapse because of "cracks". it will collapse because all the people that matter are fucking sick of it.
joecool: $4k to "pay for the damage" who gets paid $4k to hose off a wall?
pankkake: dexX7: the basics are: reverse dns of sending server should be related to the expeditor domain (or at least be something), and SPF entries are always a plus
bounce: they're angels, that's why
mircea_popescu: how the fuck is ycombinator involved in everything unsavoury.
dexX7: anyway. i'm away again, thanks and bye :)
mircea_popescu: fluffypony so basically it sells you gmail protection services ? the spam racket ?
joecool: BingoBoingo: lawl, ozzy got away with paying texas $10k to forget about it
Naphex: for cooking, was named after him i think
dexX7: well, there is something about DKIM in the header
fluffypony: but mailgun mails seem to go through no problem
mircea_popescu: is this vuscan fellow the son of the oil factory vuscan, with the 3 victims traffic accident ?
fluffypony: should have specified that
bounce: what, you're saying broadcasting unique serial numbers is somehow not automagic security on top? but! It's NFC, man!
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: I have constant issues with customers marking order updates as spam accidentally/on purpose, have that happen a few times and suddenly all customers stop getting emails from your domain
Naphex: mircea_popescu: hehe, will send him a note :] only got 2 extra toothpicks this year:(
asciilifeform: 'NFC technology, you can be certain that the chip inside is exactly your chip- it has a unique authenticity signature, non-clonable, and most usefully, an access counter.' << someone needs 'protocol vs. promise' lesson?
mircea_popescu: Naphex you'll prolly have to point out to your boss you're doing more marketing/pr than anyone there.
bounce: checked the DNSBLs?
fluffypony: dexX7: been using this recently, and it's awesome: http://www.mailgun.com
mircea_popescu: the us can collapse in all of two weeks, as tech stands today.
Apocalyptic: that's a title you don't see very often
mircea_popescu: <wywialm> maybe the key difference is the time - and gradual nature << they didn't have the press. which is why it took longer. ussr didn't have the internet, which is why it took so damned long.
asciilifeform: (cover of an old uni textbook i had)
fluffypony: dexX7: btw is this being used programmatically by a system, or is it normal user-generated emails?
dexX7: well, should not be much of a problem, even if it's a blackhole at the moment. thanks fluffy anyway :)
mircea_popescu: <wywialm> ...but it's hard for me to believe that us is the first in line << it's the first in line of the set {US}
mircea_popescu: little better available in training devices in any craft than "failure examination"
mircea_popescu: bounce as a "map the rot" project this is probably valuable even if it gets no direct results.
Naphex: worked, thans
mircea_popescu: dignork that is splendid
bounce: and, I don't think russia is quite done yet.