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mircea_popescu: but how's he, or anyone,
to say
the words
that
translate "what
the chair's job is".
mircea_popescu: i mean, it's ok
to ask
things of people. even difficult
things. but can you ask
the impossible ?
mircea_popescu: but how would you go about defining what
the chair's job is ?
diana_coman: so
then
that, fine; not
to do with
trb
though per se, cool
diana_coman: I don't see
that related
to one specific chair, I guess; i.e. I don't even see a problem if mod6 wants
to continue
testing
the patches and maintaining
the
tree even if he is not
trb chair (not
that he has
to continue, but neither does he have
to pass
the job on if he is not chair anymore)
diana_coman: I agree
that
there is plenty of work
to be done on
trb, sure; but I don't see
the subtraction
thing
diana_coman: i.e. what does one have
to do with
the other? what, hanbot should now start working on
trb if she becomes chair?
diana_coman: I
think
that's precisely what
the chairs need
to figure out: "what might fit under
this " and be useful, ofc
☟︎ diana_coman: i.e.
tbf going into uncharted
territory and
thriving
diana_coman: sure it is, but
that's more of
the point from what I see
diana_coman: asciilifeform, my understanding is
that
tbf's scope is not limited
to
trb, nor focused specifically mainly on
trb
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2018-10-01 03:45 hanbot: okay, but are gimmicks
that work
therefore good?
a111: Logged on 2018-10-01 04:35 mircea_popescu: every single insurance company in
the world found itself genealogically related
to insurers who made payments in
the 1800s, resulting in a legal battle settled sometime in
the 90s, ~90% award
to
the finding crew.
the leader of which went into hiding soon
thereafter, in
the middle of various legal wranglings with his backers and crew.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-01 11:51 esthlos:
trinque: asdf is used
to join
the pieces
together (keccak, gpg, etc.) for use by
the vtron proper. I
tried
to build
the vtron modularly, and my understanding is
that asdf is
the standard for handling modules in common lisp. is
there a better way
to do package management in cl?
a111: Logged on 2018-10-01 00:59 asciilifeform: meanwhile in asciilifeform's
trb observatory :
http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/SEy0g/?raw=true << 'bastards' emitted by ( among others ) friendlies. really is imho bug,
trb ought not
to send bastards
to
trb.
esthlos: trinque: asdf is used
to join
the pieces
together (keccak, gpg, etc.) for use by
the vtron proper. I
tried
to build
the vtron modularly, and my understanding is
that asdf is
the standard for handling modules in common lisp. is
there a better way
to do package management in cl?
☟︎ ave1: diana_coman,
thanks! yes I see and I did forget
diana_coman: ave1, you forgot
to change manifest file for your zfp_4_assert.vpatch? (i.e. it's missing from
the list in manifest)
diana_coman: I mean: please "snarf" as per existing
term of art
a111: Logged on 2018-09-30 20:54 mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-30#1856041 << me (&chet) stopped overnight into one such item, on
the mexico-guatemala border. endless halls of clean but modest beds, dozen or so
to
the room. place could've prolly quartered a whole regiment, but not
the right agricultural moment so we were alone in
the whole
thing. it was pretty eerie anyways.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-01 03:22 mircea_popescu: diana_coman is
that getting a patch or what ?
mircea_popescu: (nfi why
they don't credit laplace -- other
than protestant-ish ineptitude. presbyterians code!!!).
mircea_popescu: was found (along with "assistant" allison) and "extradited"
to ohio
to provide explanations in 2015. afaik no explanations yet -- but it
turns out bayesian-things great way
to bankruptcy.
mircea_popescu: every single insurance company in
the world found itself genealogically related
to insurers who made payments in
the 1800s, resulting in a legal battle settled sometime in
the 90s, ~90% award
to
the finding crew.
the leader of which went into hiding soon
thereafter, in
the middle of various legal wranglings with his backers and crew.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: in other random lulz :
the panic of 1857 was at least in part generated by a ship carrying 14
tons of gold
towards new york sinking in a hurricane (took a whole day
to sink, boiler slowly died leaving
them without power, quite
the adventure, 500 people died,
the captain was kinda cool etc). some people from ohio found it ("bayesian search!!!") in
the 80s.
phf: heh, it's
the midnight special, night of v double feature
esthlos: trinque: wrt
the keccak vtron, see
http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/YWfb5/?raw=true . I haven't managed
to get asdf working with ccl,
though
the sbcl version builds and appears
to work. Note
that
the
thing will barf on non-keccak vpatches. Write-up will come in
the next few days. I also have some log catch-up
to do: will read
the context and repond
to your other question soon.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-01 03:31 mircea_popescu: (and, amusingly enough,
the founding donation was a whole of a lot less
than 10 bitcoin, also.)
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-01#1856280 <<
to put specifics
to
this,
the original endowment was set at $5mn during meeting with harvard president (who came up with
the speciffic gimmick
too, stanfords were
thinking of "A combined museum-lecture hall" and such nonsense). 1885 us gdp was something like 60bn, and
the us was barely 1% of
the world at
the
time. meanwhile 10 btc is 1/1.6mn of monetary mass or somesuch.
☝︎ mircea_popescu: and even if
they won't, what harm can come of sitting with charter an' logs.
hanbot: sure. well, i'd want a day or
two
to sit with
the charter & selected logs before committing, if
the involved parties'll have me.
hanbot: mircea_popescu i grasp principle of something > nothing, but i'd hate
to lose sight of
the spirit in which
tbf was founded for
the sake of notoriety/sticking power alone. i'd
think
this is obvious and i'm by now belaboring
the point...
mircea_popescu: what i said in response uses
the black box as she might define it, irrespective.
mircea_popescu: doing
things (as opposed
to not doing
things) permits one
to compare results (as opposed
to imagine comparisons of imagined results).
hanbot: asciilifeform i'm not unsatisfied either. speaking merely
to
the recent questioning of
tbf's purpose/existence/etc in logs.
mircea_popescu: spread some fucking virii. do somethbing rather
than not do something.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-01 03:24 hanbot: asciilifeform actually in principle i very much am interested. i'm not sure i fully grasp what it's supposed
to do beyond making
trb available
tho'...if "fruit"'s so far unsatisfactory, what's good fruit look like?
hanbot: inasmuch as
tbf clearly has a soul i'd
think being
true
to
that
trumps
the potential growth offered by a given gimmick. otherwise why isn't it for instance spreading virii?
hanbot: okay, but are gimmicks
that work
therefore good?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: the difference between gimmicks is
that some work and some don't ; nobody calls
the stanford gimmick by its name for
the exact same reason "treason never prospers". but
the whole "enlightenment" pantsuit gambit, from
the original d'alembert
to
the present day, was nothing but a gimmick.
mircea_popescu: do pantsuit actually give
two shits about education establishments ? eminently not,
they're
the leading obscurantists of all
time.
hanbot: fwiw i don't doubt
tbf as-is lacks legendary promise. i can also see argument for pushing as hard as its resources allow. i wonder: does
the republic actually give
two shits about e.g. sports
teams? how much of
this "means
to an end" sorta
thing is acceptable? or is it outright looked for?
mircea_popescu: organize a baby duck marathon competition and server
the winner for a gala dinner. whatever it is, just make it stick.
mircea_popescu: i don't give a shit how. sponsor a sports
team, for all i care. god knows
the charter's written openly enough
to not get in anyone's way who wants
to do
things.