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kakobrekla: is that what they do now?
mircea_popescu: benkay the purpose of a stock exchange is major and ceo.
benkay: "major" "ceo" are orders of magnitude beyond the scope of btc scams.
mircea_popescu: nothing stopped yahoo from recruiting their ceo on linkedin
mircea_popescu: nothing's stopping people from using myspace to organise major concerts,
benkay: mircea_popescu: those problems won't stop people from using it to sell seekyoorities
mircea_popescu: jurov exactly the way myspace went. servers no purpose, has no utility. its entire lifetime is its endgame
jurov: (the latter remains to be seen)
mircea_popescu: just one of the many problems with "distributed" shits
jurov: mircea_popescu: how? if it doesn't have a website that can be shut down and is decently resistant to double spends?
danielpbarron: if counterparty does take off, I have some choice asset names squatted
Naphex: mircea_popescu, ever seen the thick of it / in the loop? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MSScBIopM8 Alistar Cambell loved it ;]
mircea_popescu: benkay the endgame for it is now
jurov: actually, if p2p trading system that can truly do that gets invented, i think it's inevitable
jurov: on the other end of scale, planetary bubble?
benkay: i guess i'm assuming someone does a 'distributed' 'exchange' adequately at some point in the future.
benkay: but they can't even fall into obscurity - noobs are still going to show up and want some return.
jurov: provided that the codebase is solid, which us pretty strong assumption
benkay: i guess the real question is 'is there an endgame for distributed exchanges'?
benkay: it's not a classic GLBSE in the sense that someone's going to shut it down. theoretically anyone can walk the 'exchange' at any time and discover the assets available for trade.
benkay: what's the endgame for counterparty look like?
mircea_popescu: so add them to assbot feed.
kakobrekla: i think its 5 this month
mircea_popescu: iirc they weren't very numerous
mircea_popescu: maybe add the trades in chan ?
kakobrekla: - you can see the trades so you can estimate something from that
kakobrekla: theres 2 things
mircea_popescu: ah yeah. a fixed figure for 1 month isnt too useful
kakobrekla: at that point withdrawals are done
kakobrekla: like we discussed, the accounting is done at the end of the month
mircea_popescu: like i go... pls to pay me back 100 btc. you say well... you ain't got 100 btc. how do you know i don't ?
mircea_popescu: but i mean... at any point you must somehow know the maximum im allowed to withdraw
kakobrekla: i dun think i can do that there because of the fee structure
mircea_popescu: btw, you have one for panacea too ? :D
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benkay: late for dinner it is, then.
Naphex: i got like ~100GB/s DDoS protection from the datacenter, after they cut upstream
fluffypony: (and api normally lives on separate hardware so the site stays up in the event of a DDoS on the API layer)
fluffypony: mike_c: I don't know if you can exclude it in CF's PageRules, never bothered checking, but you can have a subdomain (CNAME / A record) and just turn CF protection off for it
mike_c: fluffypony: surely you can have URL patterns that don't get cloudflared? if not, stats.just-dice.com would work.
bounce: your due diligence is going to be a bit of a whale, yes
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benkay: hey hanbot is 'hanbot' an acceptable way to refer to you now that you're not stalking the forums as 'MPOE-PR'?
bounce: oh, while I know next to nothing of trading, I have a possible mm candidate: moriarty, the one of spamming come to ##econometrics (in)fame
fluffypony: yeah except CloudFlare doesn't support anything like that
mike_c: i like that idea
jurov: kako yes, TAT declined, so mp asked me
fluffypony: I hate having to have a UI on a server, lol
mike_c: jurov: yeah, that would cool. if you provide it I will ingest it
mike_c: i don't know if i'll go that route though. i hate web scraping.
jurov: mike_c: guess i'll need to feed you marketmaker bot's trades, yo?
mike_c: ah. i thought about doing something like that with selenium. i haven't tried phantomjs.
fluffypony: so you still have to strip tags
fluffypony: and then dumps the page down
fluffypony: it loads the page, lets the js/meta-redir/whatever they add execute for 10 seconds
fluffypony: just /usr/bin/phantomjs that script
mike_c: oh? do tell.
fluffypony: no, this is unbreakable
mike_c: i didn't feel like participating in the arms race
mike_c: all of which breaks when cloudflare tweaks their page
mike_c: yeah.. i've seen PITA ways with scraping the cloudflare response, grabbing the JS shit and posting some form or something.
Naphex: there's a lesson there
fluffypony: mike_c: I figured out how to scrape through CloudFlare, if you need me to make the jd mpif number available for you or explain how to walk past cloudflare
fluffypony: for the hipsters
jurov: asciilifeform, also i think you assume there was more cultural exchange between ussr and its colonies than there actually was
ozbot: Balconies are for the Birds - Imgur
asciilifeform: lol, google's best transl. of 'подвиг' is... 'exploit.'
ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
Naphex: ASR only operates in conjunction with the Electronic Accelerator (E gas) and uses components of the Anti-lock Brake System (ABS). If one wheel suddenly begins to rotate faster than the others (slip), ASR intervenes in the engine management system and reduces power until the wheel stops spinning.
nubbins`: i think that might be from the ol' heart-shaped-sticker-in-the-tanning-booth trick, but i'm not sure
nubbins`: men would go to war under such a banner!
Naphex: probably the diff or systems like ASR/ESP, not really sure.
mircea_popescu: do i get a heart butt tattoo ?
nubbins`: now imagine two of those straddling a shield with some leafwork on top/bottom
Naphex: nah i it's the same on my audi/quattro
nubbins`: mircea_popescu http://imgur.com/VG85ul7 < this is pretty close to the final draft
benkay: unless it's some crazy e-diff? and they've hacked it to say 'don't spin up wheel'?
benkay: they'd still be spinning though, right? diff only has an effect when turning.
asciilifeform: interestingly, подвиг doesn't translate to eng.
asciilifeform: that's the legend anyway
danielpbarron: he kept the current flowing, even in death
asciilifeform: field telephone.
mrstickball: so he pinched a wire with his teeth and got electrocuted?
Naphex: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQm5BnhTBEQ now guys in the desert, they get bored hardcore ;o
asciilifeform: if modern sysop monkeys had myths & legends, they'd pick up this one
asciilifeform: one of those soviet legends that 'everybody knew'
asciilifeform: mrstickball: fellow who pinched a broken wire with his teeth, died in the correct position
mrstickball: what's that supposed to be of, asciilifeform ?
mircea_popescu: benkay o hey, im a total noob when it comes to all these topics
mrstickball: how does that work, benkay
mrstickball: what's this about Chipotle publishing numbers for items?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: did you ever encounter the tale of 'подвиг радиста' as schoolboy? ☟︎
benkay: plus also lets ignore that the base measure is +/- 20% iirc, cuz what's research anyways when you're chasing provocative headlines.
benkay: any reasonably high-traffic chipotle publishes numbers for individual items, eg guac, sour cream, cheese, various salsas, the different meats...
benkay: someone's visiting the chipotles at the tail of the upgrade cycle
mircea_popescu: calories ? 10 to 900
asciilifeform: 'here great machines must sit forgot / because the idler wants to nod...'
mircea_popescu: the funniest one is the KEEP CLOTHI
asciilifeform: now for the pepsi: