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mircea_popescu: how's that coming along ?
mircea_popescu: aha
mircea_popescu: anyway. items who aim to ask questions but can't answer questions are not yet ready for peopledom.
mircea_popescu: victory]
mircea_popescu: i suppose the moral being, we're going to see ever more waiters who read the log for i-log-ical purposes in teh futures. and, the imbecile (aka narcissist in ballas' terminology) being more dedicated to the preservation of the malfunctioning "self" he already has, they'll just run off the moment that dun work, to either try [the same stupid shit] again later or not dare to try again [ie, proclaim some sort of incomprehensible
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that's kinda the thing, they self-flatteringly imagine i ended up here cuz i fell from a pot, not because i can see through them like so much glass beads.
mircea_popescu: ie, there are waiters who overheard enough in bits and pieces from the intellectual's disputes that they can overwhelm an university professor, especially if unprepared.
mircea_popescu: this was actually formalized by caragiale cca 1880 : "sunt chelneri cari, dupa cite au prins pe apucate din dezbaterile si conferintele intelectualilor, pot face mart pe un profesor de universitate, mai ales daca l-or lua repede".
mircea_popescu: the other moo moo strat, since we're doing moo moo strats, is, of course, http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-07#1694702 : spend a little time trying to follow a particular line into some detail, then "totally overwhelm" your betters by pointed questions. cuz you know, they totally don't outthink you on a regular basis. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: necessary corollary of "people can have ideas". of course, "people" can't, but that's too advanced for the prostitextuate.
mircea_popescu: "better own 100% of obscure nonsense than ~0% of reasonable statement" because "you never know" etc.
mircea_popescu: "oh, there's 5bn things that could be said and 3bn moo moos saying things, well, i'll be better served to "differentiate" myself from the herd by saying things according to how few others are saying them, than according to the things said"
mircea_popescu: anyway, it's the usual strategy of the cattle, discussed previously in teh logs.
mircea_popescu: most nobody did.
mircea_popescu: this doesn't work, of course, but he'll whine loudly about the unfairness of it all.
mircea_popescu: i don't suppose either him or bitcoin or anything else talked about is related to the piece. the whole item is matt levine being his usual judische insolence self, whereby he imagines he can talk out his ass and he won't hang for it because "someone had to say the alternative thing".
mircea_popescu: you mean the subject ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform other than the butthurt of matt levine, who apparently holds the irrational impacted belief that usg matters/has a future against all possibnle evidence, what about that piece ?
mircea_popescu: i'm not enough of an expert on stupid-theatre to be able to say if this is fair or not to teh kabuki.
mircea_popescu: lol k
mircea_popescu: maybe, if that's what you mean by it. i always interpreted it to mean "fixed form resulting through exhaustion of alternative by an ancient, methodical culture". whereas generally fixed form is arbitrary.
mircea_popescu: whereas "don't say nigger" and "good guy wears white hat" is fixed form.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform here's the difference : "bad guy gets it (death)" and "woman gets it in the end (cock)" are fixed structure, they create the usian fictional narrative.
mircea_popescu: the form is just a way to cheat.
mircea_popescu: fixed structure is a cognitive necessity, from the kuhn-popper theory of paradigma-based research throughout the actual practice of scholastics all the way to a 10yos fixed structure "composition"
mircea_popescu: no, because i mean fixed form not fixed structure.
mircea_popescu: brazzers are so fucking untalented. jesus.
mircea_popescu: o wait, are you saying it's not actually a butt plug, but something else ?
mircea_popescu: dun think i ever saw the specific one.
mircea_popescu: hm.
mircea_popescu: delishius caek.
mircea_popescu: i guess im making caek.
mircea_popescu: in other news : cutting up a fresh vanilla bean and leaving the cuttings to sit under costa rican rum qs in a brown glass bottle results after a week or so in such an incredible vanilla tincture as the senses can scarcely believe.
mircea_popescu: heya.
mircea_popescu: o right tis monday!
mircea_popescu: meanwhile at teh office, http://68.media.tumblr.com/f821b8398d69e9969db7f2dcef402703/tumblr_o7b4t3n1fC1v92rx6o1_400.gif
mircea_popescu: o hey, that was the painlessest log catchup ever.
mircea_popescu: not bad so far.
mircea_popescu: why ty!
mircea_popescu: even if it's conspicuous consumption in the manner of "burn all these decadent bourgeois rembrandts"
mircea_popescu: still, the masterpieces and discoveries are not objectively valuable, even though the socialists love using them whenever they figure how to.
mircea_popescu: whereas a dysfunctional socialist environment will have you chant nonsense in a circle.
mircea_popescu: and so yes, a functional commercial environment will have you do some things, such as painting masterpieces and discovering the new world, in preference of others.
mircea_popescu: knowledge has you stick finger in some holes as opposed to others ; depending on the kind of knowledge so vary the kinds of holes.
mircea_popescu: in this configuration, it spins an axle. in another configuration, it'd have fed a mold or w/e.
mircea_popescu: take the combustion engine -- yes, the fuel burns ; yes it'd have oxidized anyway, eventually.
mircea_popescu: every ideological clothing of reality will priviledge some possible, occuring exchanges for others.
mircea_popescu: sure.
mircea_popescu: the problem with this view is that most cultures ethnonym is "man". raider/trader/etc would have to be exonyms.
mircea_popescu: perhaps.
mircea_popescu: this doesn't happen just when you want it, but generally. if you're gonna kill the dude drowning to take his underwear, you'll be stuck wearing a pair of stained underwear which you didn't stain yourself.
mircea_popescu: the problem with payoff is, of course, identity. to quote that splendid film, "when a man takes an oath, he is holding his soul in his hands, like water. if he opens his fingers then, he shouldn't worry about ever meeting himself again."
mircea_popescu: right.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo conceivably.
mircea_popescu: unrelatedly alf -- teh russkis came up with the following item : a 20 ton truck with two engines, one powering the left side wheels, the other powering the right side wheels. i thought you should know.
mircea_popescu: 1. phf is walking down the road ; 2. phf perceives something in river ; 3. phf goes to help ; 4.a. phf discovers it was scarecrow, unloads helping module ; 4.b. phf discovers it is muscovy and he's from lvov, unloads helping module ; 4.c phf discovers it's his brother AND CARRIES ON.
mircea_popescu: but you're not helping him because he's your brother. you're helping him because you were going to help ; the part where he;s your brother is a 2nd step, where he doesn't get not-helped for being on do-not-help list.
mircea_popescu: 16yo is going to suck some cock. unless she's biologically broken, mentally retarded, in some manner not-human, dysfunctional failure, she is. now, whether she sucks hunter's cock because that's who daddy brought home or wolf of wallstreet cock because that's what the cat dragged into the bar is an ulterior consideration. she's not gonna be without.
mircea_popescu: the trick here is the usual "sleeping mind goes backwards through causal-time". the kinship is a particular shaving of the cooperation field -- you're supposed to help your kin and not help the nonkin. this does not mean "kinship made you help your kin" ; you wer going to help and this told you who NOT to help.
mircea_popescu: cooperation is a behaviour ; kinship is a status. they're not compatible in this sense.
mircea_popescu: sure.
mircea_popescu: doesn't specifically care who desdemona fucks, but very much cares if the moor sent any venetian coins back to mauretania.
mircea_popescu: whereas usg is very dedicated to "anti money laundering".
mircea_popescu: for instance, traditional family ie kinship say discourages very acutely some specific cooperations, such as romeo and juliet's coop.
mircea_popescu: much in the vein of "hair-grows on face ; we call a moustache this particular shaving pattern, and sideburns this other shaving pattern" ?
mircea_popescu: so is there any argument against the "cooperation is what happens anyway, there's a number of known ways to discourage kinds, such as market, faith, kinship, etc" ?
mircea_popescu: i mean, "advanced" folk can't get a carpool to work, whereas "backwards" folk can drop a supernumerary child with the first woman/gaggle of children they run into, and it'll work out. "here, take this, i'll take it back tonight".
mircea_popescu: if your notion of cooperation excludes reproduction you'll have to define it somehow because i'm not sure i know what it means thne.
mircea_popescu: hm.
mircea_popescu: seems the natural basic quanta of cooperation, "making a new child".
mircea_popescu: phf wouldn't you expect, if market encouraged cooperation, for fucking to be most common in market-driven societies and least common in marketless ones ? whereas europe has a fertility problem and chuka very much does not ?
mircea_popescu: market organizes capital, of course, and man is capital, yes, but it doesn't encourage cooperation anymore than it encourages the grass to grow.
mircea_popescu: consider the case of kitty genovese ; or else a more general, abstracted point : you go into a field where men are working, in a rural, traditional, thereby market-clean setting, and i dunno, sayu a man is drowned in the river and ask for help. they will cooperate, won't they ? whereas if there's a market going they'll go... "go talk to the market-specialist, we're not in that line of work", yes ?
mircea_popescu: why do you think market encourages cooperation ?
mircea_popescu: you had any contact with the living memory of soviet punk ? was this thing early on, "soviet too soft, gotta be moar hardcore" youth movement, wouldn't wash, didn't ask women to fuck, somewhat vaguelyt like the great leap forward kids in china.
mircea_popescu: suddenly the proposition becomes untenable.
mircea_popescu: this puts the problem in context : "don't defect to west because even if materially stronger, it is morally weaker. BUT ALSO!!!! don't defect to fucking mongoloids because even though morally stronger they... don't have enough dachas ?"
mircea_popescu: i know for a fact kgb had chuka defection directorate because hey, during the groznii siege all the signals folk involved had "experience in the problem".
mircea_popescu: no, see, you're thinking "to the west" with such intensity it can't even be voiced. suppose for the sake of argument, defect to chuka. why not ?
mircea_popescu: defect to whom ?
mircea_popescu: phf which prisonner dilemma ?
mircea_popescu: what can you do.
mircea_popescu: brain tattooing. because unlike skin, brain can present different facet in different context. to some degree.
mircea_popescu: "Ce frumoasa este iarna!" ie, "how beautiful $item is!". early, cheap, typewriter-and-indigo-paper powered shanonizing. fill in these blanks, and memorize the template they go into.
mircea_popescu: in the way of "in our democracy" and "rights of all people" and so on. it's emergent in teh anglo.
mircea_popescu: in the way of "la revedere, gara din pascani!" ie, "goodbye, train station of pascani!"
mircea_popescu: (and yes, of course this is the ancient papal legate rulebook for message composition.)
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo any fixed forms ?
mircea_popescu: recount this. what's the rules for the construction of the item ?
mircea_popescu: strangely, the us version is a lot less endearing, perhaps in that it so carefully avoids appearing naive to itself.
mircea_popescu: i'm aware. complexity in us world has been dropping abruptly in mainstream terms. teh people can no longer support an actually deliberative senate.
mircea_popescu: substitute tattoo of wooden tongue was employed in soviet world, to the amusement of early postmoderns in the west.
mircea_popescu: and the story it tells is that cca 1950 soviet / 1800 western world, it was already impossible to produce meaningful tattoos due to growing complexity.
mircea_popescu: allows comparison of the item with its summary for maximal comprehension.
mircea_popescu: soviet is very instructive for the anthropologist because it is roughly speaking "summarized early modern".
mircea_popescu: writing up an incident report or whatever else in this manner.
mircea_popescu: but see, that's not at all the point. for one thing : all scholarship is nonsense. for the other, soviet school si entirely propaganda, which is to say "prepare organ donors for a certain way of life". the fucking point of the fixed form 3rd/4th grade composition is to allow the submarginal intellects making up the bulk of the population to tattoo their brains into a form that'll then allow them to survive, as traffic agents ☟︎
mircea_popescu: like, say, the vacation page ? wit hthe "goodbye so and so landmark" closer sentence ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: phf did you live through soviet long enough to know the 10yo fixed-form composition ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: "the more things there are to be, the fewer beings you will have". eventually that reaches 0 and that's that.