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mircea_popescu: chonkin, amusingly enough, "economists" also aren't somebody, so this doesn't do much.
mircea_popescu: anyway, as far as anyone currently knows, that is real. there's a lot of work undergoing to establish just how real it actually is tho.
mircea_popescu: chonkin, most of that's your own read-in. i simply pointed out "marx" isn't somebody. you wanna carry a discussion with someone, you're stuck using mutual ground. you're more than welcome to think what you will, but to me marx is indistinguishable from any other blog spammer, for reasons explained. you're more than welcome to engage those or not, but that's about how far it goes.
mircea_popescu: nope ;/ still not the one i had in mind god damn it all to hell, im turning senile over here.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, nah. it was quite literal, i just don't recall the nouns so my search dun work
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, do you happen to recall which the hell trilema article is it where i say that the illusion of existence or identity randos cherish is merely the reflection of my interaction with the world, an interaction to which they're neither party nor necessary ?
mircea_popescu: it doesn't work for "RodneyOnern" earlier today and it didn't work for "Karl Marx" earlier this century. the irrelevant circumstance that some blogs publish spam and some morons became michael jackson fans or roosh v or karl marx or dale carnegie fans/true believers/whatever is exactly as the word says : irrelevant.
mircea_popescu: i suppose in a sense marx is the original, one-man "social media platform" slash spammer attack on the conversation. ie, "here's some bits of text i culled from the net, and here's some links, publish my comment".
mircea_popescu: no, i'm saying that some random dork misspelling shakespeare isn't a "problem" or something shakespeare has to deal with.
mircea_popescu: i dunno i have to "deal" with it, beyond not giving a shit. again, some derp mouthing something or the other creates no point of interest.
mircea_popescu: chonkin, the dispute isn't whether "marx blathered in this vein". you know who bowdler was ?
mircea_popescu: and a republic never was, nor ever could or will be anything else than a lordship. such as this one, such as the earlier venetian attempt a millenium ago, such as all others.
mircea_popescu: you understand this, the peons ~can not be said to substantially eixst~! they aren't fucking here in any sense.
mircea_popescu: yes, well, what next, "this shakespeare guy i never heard about sounds almost like verbatim pages from bowdler" ?
mircea_popescu: i must say though that this "heroic policemen" item smacks me of old soviet union narratives. you speak russian chonkin ?
mircea_popescu: much like a restaurant's "waiters" are the remnant of what used to be the lords' servants following them around, only mutualized, so is the police.
mircea_popescu: chonkin, that "the police" is the name for this historical institution consisting of the muscle lords pooled together is the plainest reality.
mircea_popescu: it carries no particular relation with reality, though.
mircea_popescu: chonkin, this seems to me sheer animism. for the same money there's shared ethos in all furniture, "because of the wood". if you must, as a literary exercise, why not.
mircea_popescu: this and that are the same thing : groups of cows go moo! moo!
mircea_popescu: according to the "deeply held ethical notions" of south koreans currently living, sleeping with a fan on will lead to suffocation through the fan's "consuming of the oxygen".
mircea_popescu: this is not a topic of study, as per libermann. it is a topic of stupid.
mircea_popescu: in a large enough collection of cows, be they bipedal or otherwise, there will occasionally be perceived synchronized mooing
mircea_popescu: for the same money you're going to take ballots from "the collective stars" at night. what collective ?
mircea_popescu: i dispute there ever can be such a thing as a meaningful "collective" declared after the fact.
mircea_popescu: you see some substantial difference between marx and any of the chautauqua retards, for instance ?
mircea_popescu: well, the reason'd be that i think it's inconsequential nonsense. marx, ziggler, joseph smith, whatever ustarded self-help authors are broadly speaking irrelevant in any conversation.
mircea_popescu: the fact that the police exists to protect the powerful from the maraudingly idiotic is unrelated to marxism, and well predates it.
mircea_popescu: but this is like saying the color red has "some coca cola in it", because "coca cola uses red as part of its xmas nonsense". so ?
mircea_popescu: the plebs are, always were, and forever will be, entirely incidental.
mircea_popescu: im not sure what the problem is. the police is organised by the king, and yes, its function is the maintenance of the kingdom in order from the king's pov.
mircea_popescu: kitty genovese resulted in some regulations ~for bystanders~
mircea_popescu: well, yes. the matter still stands, police aren't held to specifically do anything. there's a lengthy string of cases going way past the 70s.
mircea_popescu: chonkin, point still remains, security guards aren't there to get involved in shootouts.
mircea_popescu: so yeah. hiding in car is actually the official policy ; and for good reason at that.
mircea_popescu: well, a) mall cops aren't cops, they're security guards and b) the hotel security guard who pestered that guy in florida pretty much generated the shooting.
mircea_popescu: chonkin, why would you "user generated content" for shitbook anyway ?
mircea_popescu: sovok police mostly arrested georgians, too. cuz not every wanna-be bank robber can end up stalin, what.
mircea_popescu: amusingly enough, that's not even false. i'm sure they're arrested more, the fucking function of police is to keep the underclass in check. wtf else are cops for than to arrest the poor ? and well, in the us blacks are usually it.
mircea_popescu: yeah he has a point. chonkin get yourself a pgp key, a blog, the works. gotta do things right yes.
mircea_popescu: the republic is famous as the last repository of human thought, yes.
mircea_popescu: "'Zounds, sir, you are one of those that will not serve God, if the devil bid you. Because we come to do you service and you think we are ruffians, you'll have your daughter covered with a Barbary horse; you'll have your nephews neigh to you; you'll have coursers for cousins and gennets for germans." an' all that.
mircea_popescu: yeah, but the cultural norms were for the old dood's house to not be ransacked for valuables (ie, cunt & gold).
mircea_popescu: chonkin, why is violent crime a big deal in the first place ? shakespeare's venice is all about young doods stabbing each other, so what of it.
mircea_popescu: i don't think that failure is either contentious or needs much elaboration. it's obvious enough, the socialist dreams have failed wholesale.
mircea_popescu: which is kinda what race is, "behold, by the magical powers of my caliper i can meaningfully distinguish haploid groups".
mircea_popescu: chonkin, i used "racist" above to denote any theory that proposes there can be a fenotype-based partition on human population.
mircea_popescu: that much is true, eugenics was rather fashionable for most of the pre-ww2 modern period.
mircea_popescu: what's "compleltely founded" ? a workable notion of number for eg, is early 1900s. most math could be said to only have a fundamental existence in the past century.
mircea_popescu: the usual term for the process of education is... education.
mircea_popescu: i'm pretty sure "white colonizing oppression" is rank nonsense, on the level of "buddha".
mircea_popescu: chonkin, as a factual matter, it's unlikely any live human being had a majority of ancestors who were not slaves at some point in their life. now, most of this is undocumented, but slavery is about as fundamental as eating.
mircea_popescu: you can see this fundamental behaviour among children. nothing is easier than for a group of pubescent boys/girls to agree "girls/boys are retarded / not worth bothering with". then one with nice tits, or a fellatio inclination, or whatever, an impressive hairdo or a skateboard shows up, and suddenly there's an exception. before you know it, within the decade everyone's married and their pubescent kids agree on the agreeme
mircea_popescu: ie, racist arguments do not generally fail at the core, they generally fail at the skirts. you can always get broad agreement on "oh, blacks are tards". that never was problematic, it's a fundamental portion of human behaviour. the problems begin when you'\re asked to establish the limits / produce a "yes/no" answerer to "is this person black" format questions.
mircea_popescu: (neither were considered european in europe during the timeframes in question)
mircea_popescu: but the irish and the italian historical migratory waves were of european descent. at least sorta
mircea_popescu: chonkin, not to mention historical waves of incarceration as seen in the "melting pot" aka ny. first, jails fulla irishmen, locals saying irish is the new black. then their sons moved on to being the cops, jails fulla ets. then their sons moved on to being cops, and so on.
mircea_popescu: since we're doing "what did the girls find sifting" BingoBoingo, didja know there's an #uruguay on dalnet ?
mircea_popescu: slavegirl reports interesting fellow, we see how it goes.