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mircea_popescu: for from the crooked timber of humanity...
fluffypony: well that's the lesson that I learnt
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell thickasthieves ^
mircea_popescu: fluffypony: and he was like "but it's too much effort for a girl." << check it out thickasthieves, it's http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-03-2014#591323 all over again :D ☝︎
mircea_popescu: all it says is that it's indicium not proof.
mircea_popescu: now, this certainly isn't to say that taking a break is not a good idea.
mircea_popescu: there's nothing to negotiate, see ? whereas as long as you are your own master for all you know your adiction is making a deal
mircea_popescu: the only logically sound way this proof works is if you're a slave and your master orders you to stop, without a specific timeframe. then yes.
mircea_popescu: see, i can appreciate that sentiment, but it has a hole in it
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: yeah...part of it was also to prove to myself I wasn't an alcoholic:)
mircea_popescu: fluffypony: so I stopped for 6 months to demonstrate I wasn't << alternatively you could have belted her butt to demonstrate it's not her place to say. better for humanity, because she probably went on to write opinionful articles about things.
mircea_popescu: Naphex: garbage article, opionions and arguments how fun << they've been having an eve corp whose shares are traded in bitcoin/equiv MPOE shares for... a year now ? more ?
mircea_popescu: artifexd: It makes more sense when I notice that mp has never (that I've seen) recommended that users reuse addresses. His statements have always (that I have seen) talked about services reusing addresses. << yes, this is an important, and also correct, observation.
mircea_popescu: like, derps believe "there is a god above" ? well, let's put some satellites in orbit, see what they do then ? ah, they still believe it, except it's now above-er ? win.
mircea_popescu: this happens to be how one defends himself from stupidity : by making the intellectual cost of stupidity skyrocket.
mircea_popescu: not only in tech terms, but also in intellectual terms. ie, the nonsense one has to believe in other to believe in taint.
mircea_popescu: artifexd: I can also just assert that the address isn't mine. Period. << absolutely. on the other hand, reusing addresses actually makes the stupidirty of "calculating taint" much more expensive.
mircea_popescu: it's not technically that, because in point of fact you *can* implement with single use addresses the same system. however, you could also not have, and likely the presumption will be that you have not. so it's more like proof that you have than anything
mircea_popescu: artifexd: It's like an order randomized mixer. << something like that.
steven-__: I thought that post was just native advertising
pankkake: and shows how non-revolutionary "clouds" are, not how how stupid that one is
pankkake: it's actually pretty much like the cloud
ozbot: Is This the Worst Tech Idea of 2014?
steven-__: hopefully now that magic is involved they can get it done
steven-__: They have been saying that for years
BingoBoingo: Hopefully it's the Rams
steven-__: but yea magic was my first thought but he is pretty busy bringing a NFL team to la
steven-__: sell the story of them taking away the team to the masses not the team itself
BingoBoingo: Or sell it to Magic Johnson.
steven-__: this racism thing is just a way to sell it to the masses
steven-__: but now that its not a turd they took it away
BingoBoingo: ANd now they won't.
steven-__: they let him own a turd
BingoBoingo: Well if someone wants to own a turd, they can own a turd.
ozbot: Bill Simmons writes an open letter to Blake Griffin on the eve of the NBA draft - ESPN
steven-__: and they are just pushing him out now that his team is good
Naphex: hehe, is there any though?:D
Naphex: Asus AMD Radeon R9 295X2, 8192MB + Asus X79 RAMPAGE IV BLACK EDITION was the expensive part
pankkake: what's lei? the doge to ron's bitcoin?
BingoBoingo: The only better time to practice than before is now
BingoBoingo: Another interesting exercise is holding coin and keeping it safe from technical threats and ill advised spending
BingoBoingo: steven-__: That's probably the safest thing. Probably wouldn't hurt to acquire some coin and dispose of some coin as practice if you haven't done much other than read yet.
chetty: the peaceful time of day
BingoBoingo: Cool. Yeah, it's kind of a slow night. Anythings you do in Bitcoin or would like to do in Bitcoin?
steven-__: not very active tonight
steven-__: I have been idling here for some time still learning
BingoBoingo: steven-__: You're welcome. What brings you to these parts?
bounce: russia running mostly on vodka, I don't suppose that'll change any time soon
gribble: Legal vodka production falls by one-third in Russia — RT Business: <http://rt.com/business/russia-vodka-production-falls-158/>; Russian Vodka Prices Set to Increase by 30% in July - Forbes: <http://www.forbes.com/sites/markadomanis/2012/05/31/russian-vodka-prices-set-to-increase-by-30-in-july/>; Russia's vodka tax: backfiring – beyondbrics - Blogs - FT.com: <http://blogs.ft.com (1 more message)
pankkake: ;;google vodka russia taxes
gribble: Tithe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tithe>; tithed - definition of tithed by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus ...: <http://www.thefreedictionary.com/tithed>; Tithe - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary: <http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/tithe>
BingoBoingo: bounce: I've actually always suspected the religious case for prohibition was largely influenced by the cost of drinking taking money that could have been tithed
bounce: could well be from the idea that having people not spend several hundred beer tokens at the local watering hole each and every week would leave them with more money to spend on other things. then again, why aren't they waging national campaigns against audiophoolism? that's even more expensive and braindamaged.
pankkake: mongodb is amazing in the sense that 99% of its users do not need it, and create themselves new problems
bounce: dropping php/mysql isn't a bad idea. but the replacement... some people are magnets for failure
BingoBoingo: Because excess and poorly contextualized drinking can be destructive, apparently taking more than five drinks must be an illness. As opposed to the medical condition where the body has adapted to the presence of alcohol so much that discontinuing it is harmful.
bounce: we're still living with the damage
bounce: plenty people have contended that because GUIs look pretty for some applications, if only everybody used GUIs for everything productivity will soar for everybody
ozbot: Twitter / The1KingDragon: The latest @TheCryptoRush: ...
fluffypony: oh this is my favourite
BingoBoingo: Or support p2p decentralized everythings because if these things are good in some applications, they must be good in all applications, right.
bounce: eh, finance's not supposed to /drink/ anyway.
BingoBoingo: This is the same sort of derp think that gets us people who do stuff like support the bitcoin foundation because it sounds right.
bounce: IIRC the criterion was like five glasses a week. though it went upward if you're a student, upward again if you're a medical or technical student, and upward again for certain cities with skewed (as in, mostly male) student population
bounce: wikipedia claims delirium tremens only kicks in after a week or so
BingoBoingo: No, the line for alcoholism is that stopping drinking impares your ability to continue living
fluffypony: bounce: I think that the qualifying factor is whether it changes your behaviour
BingoBoingo: fluffypony: Thank you for the vote of confidence
BingoBoingo: Fuck those books
bounce: two or three drinks a night does qualify for alcoholism in some books
BingoBoingo: fluffypony: Flashlights. It's storm season and I learned all of the ones I have around are aging and their bulbs suck
BingoBoingo: Be a shame if he had to with them twice
BingoBoingo: I really hope csshih's employees don't fuck up getting the package out today.
fluffypony: and he was like "but it's too much effort for a girl."
fluffypony: had an older (wiser) friend say to me "this girl is really difficult to be with"
fluffypony: good lessons to learn when you're young
fluffypony: dumped her at the end of the 6 months
fluffypony: so I stopped for 6 months to demonstrate I wasn't
fluffypony: I had a girlfriend that said I was an alcoholic because I enjoyed a drink or two or three every night
Naphex: bb, heading towards the office
fluffypony: BingoBoingo:http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/05/05/a-pragmatic-test-for-alcoholism/ <- too true
ozbot: Bitcoin’s EVE corporation pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
BingoBoingo: Naphex: Did you know there is a clean pathway between Isk and BTC?
ozbot: Why Eve Online's economist thinks bitcoin could be a scam | Polygon
BingoBoingo: That reaction is the same reason I didn't check for you
artifexd: Ick. Forums. It occurs to me that I don't care that much.
BingoBoingo: artifexd: Not that I know of you can check the forums. His nick is r3wt
artifexd: Did the guy that wrote openex ever come back? I haven't noticed him since then.
BingoBoingo: The volume and trade frequency were higher than x-bt's usually is now.
BingoBoingo: artifexd: No, on Openex it traded up to the 700's
BingoBoingo: The worst privacy case for an individual though is one one address and only that address forever and ever, amen
artifexd: Did ATC just hit an all time high?
BingoBoingo: artifexd: Well the thing is best practices for users involve a degree of esoterism
artifexd: It makes more sense when I notice that mp has never (that I've seen) recommended that users reuse addresses. His statements have always (that I have seen) talked about services reusing addresses. Which... ok. I'll buy that.
artifexd: I certainly believe that reusing addresses has a time and a place. I'm just trying to wrap my head around the idea that it increases anonymity.
artifexd: I can also just assert that the address isn't mine. Period. The first time I came into possession of the coins was when they arrived at the address I claimed.
BingoBoingo: Among other things.
BingoBoingo: artifexd: It can make a ton of good. Someone suspects an address is yours because of a transaction between it and an address you claimed. You can assert, no that's a service's address and disavow it.
artifexd: That makes some sort of minor sense for a service that just holds money to send it back to its users, but that logic doesn't do a user of bitcoin any good.
artifexd: As in: Send me money. I'll send it to you later. But I may send the next guys money before I send yours. I may also send you a different amount than you sent me.