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Adlai: my long-term (years/decades) plan for scalpl, assuming i don't lose interest by then, is commodities, since i'm hoping by that point "forex" becomes a quaint anachronism
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: isn't it odd that engl. doesn't (afaik) have a word for блат - that other capital that u.s. economy actually runs on today, as discussed above
mircea_popescu: so it didn't need govt money.
mircea_popescu: decimation the ones who "don't" are more valuable as bezzle access. the ones who "do" really don't.
decimation: wtf, when did it ever make sense as a creditor to make enemies with those who had money in order to court those who don't?
decimation: punkman: aren't you in france?
asciilifeform: that alone would not doom it - consider the world of usg - but the onesie-pcb-assembly business doesn't have the makings of a mass popu-chumpatron
thestringpuller: decimation: isn't there a super speeder law in VA and MD because people drive so terribly in DC?
decimation: yes, I couldn't find any mention of the costs of 'non-house' parts
asciilifeform: assuming the thing isn't simply a blackhole for money,
decimation: I guess because they can't write an http uploader that works?
decimation: they promise that they won't mistreat your data
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes so do mine. but at least a) i actually fuck them and b) i don't take them without a significant prior investment from other people.
asciilifeform: decimation: and demands weird gerber layers that i haven't got
mircea_popescu: for that matter, if one doesn't have the culture to know that glob's a verb, the above is also "a very bad argument" .and so on.
mircea_popescu: for that matter, my "which of course is the very point" above is also "not very clear", in the sense that if one isn't particularly bright, the recursion of "what dk says is that people think they're better than they are" is not immediately glob'd into the expression.
mircea_popescu: your average doobie, with a mediocre college degree and an ESL culture mostly geared towards ingested summaries is perfectly unable to decode metaphor or recognise complex enough patterns and fill in the gaps. this to him is frustrating, and the frustration is predictably resolved by lashing out (hey, it's the guy fault for using rferences i have to google and math i don't grok!11). in no way better than a clinical mor
mircea_popescu: but in fact, the moderately stupid are just as handicapped understanding why they aren't smarter as very smart people are, understanding THE SAME THING (ie, why they aren't smarter).
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> srsly, whoever asked that, read the damn thing << for those blessedly uncontaminated with "c machine" constructs, it's hard to tell where the "c++" leaves off and the "boost" begins. it's clear that it's used in every for loop (c++ doesn't have iteration constructs?!), but the question if you didn't read closely enough was "why bother?" not "should one?"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=711276 << this you'll appreciate. grep for "Doctor_Why_Bother"
decimation: asciilifeform: no it isn't really, how many do you think they sell? 10? 100?
decimation: and it didn't do 100 ghz
decimation: but it's not clear if that's marketing spin or not, haven't tried
asciilifeform: satellites don't run away, either
assbot: Logged on 12-12-2014 00:03:19; asciilifeform: chemically-powered emp bomb is one of those weapons that really fails basic physics, for almost any scenario, but the brass can't ever fall out of love with it
mircea_popescu: i can't be the only one that actually fired lasers.
decimation: herbijudlestoids: if you read the logs, you discover several explanations for why what you desire doesn't exist
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform> herbijudlestoids: what if you want to patch your hypothalamus ? << Don't remember if I did this or not.
asciilifeform: herbijudlestoids: if 'software-based' is what you want, i don't get it, you already own a computer ?
mircea_popescu: you don't patch it, you burn it and get a new one.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if nubbins` weren't such a noob, he'd have laser etched a mechanical rsa by now
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: imho time spent on 0.9.x other than mining for zoological data (mutilations, fixes) is wasted << Indeed shit just doesn't work there as pete_dush discovered
BingoBoingo: herbijudlestoids: I dare you to try a makefile for 0.9.3 on FreeBSD that doesn't lean on the linux emulation layer
mircea_popescu: his name's china, and the us can't even mention what he asks of her. let alone consider what to say.
mircea_popescu: decimation if you review the us foreign policy, it can't escape your notice that the us is playing exactly the role of one of the classical woman in love : will pretend like she's a priss to all comers, except there's one she will literally eat the shit from.
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asciilifeform: decimation: difference is that those ^ don't actually need to work
asciilifeform: decimation: you can probably guess that they didn't do it because 'smart', but because eternal contracts signed, likely, five or six presidents ago
mircea_popescu: i don't get it, there's literally an ocean of providers of this stuff.
mircea_popescu: this isn't about "every fuckhead's precious"
BingoBoingo: bitcoin-qt is seriously just chilling now. was getting killed by malloc every half hour and now isn't even touching the line that killed it earlier.
mircea_popescu: can't be arsed to fix the thing, can be arsed to ban evade. very fucking smart.
mircea_popescu: And no, there isn't a difference between bankruptcy and gay marriage-- not to psychiatry. That's the point. These are social problems about which modern psychiatry is definitionally ignorant. The APA did not endorse polygamy. What's the difference? If homosexuality is not a psychiatric disorder, than there is no more reason to be more for or against it than there is for any other kind of marriage. The APA is no better
mircea_popescu: You can't get away with pat answers, such as psychiatrists see the psychiatric ramifications of discrimination or being unable to marry. There are psychiatric ramifications of bankruptcy, and war, but no one felt compelled to write a policy statement on it (and thank God.)
cazalla: incase scoopbot isn't working http://qntra.net/2015/02/excoin-exchange-to-shut-down-amid-claims-of-theft/
thestringpuller: i don't grok :(
asciilifeform: but doesn't tell whether can run. only that isn't out of the race yet.
asciilifeform: this is not an interesting story per se except in the form of advice to young folks like BingoBoingo - don't do it!
mircea_popescu: this is insanity. you want a girl that can be smart, not a girl that can't be stupid, for some arbitrary levels of either. just like you seek a horse that can run quickly, not a horse that is never still.
mircea_popescu: they didn't work ?
BingoBoingo: I'm leting DBUS live for now, doesn't seem to do much other than die a lot
BingoBoingo: 208378, took much of the off because I wasn't there to restart it while sleeping.
asciilifeform: except he is didn't need to take the dope
mircea_popescu: out of five women that weren't raped, only one runs into idiots spouting insane troll logic that convinces her she retroactively was.
mircea_popescu: "hey, --\" didn't do anything on it's own, but what if you add another ?!?!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ...sheeit alf, what nao << not my fault if the poor sod contracted 'brainwater' and can't hold systems in his head
mircea_popescu: !t h rent
thestringpuller: can't wait to read on qntra one day: "Gavin Admits to Being USG Agent, Leaves Bitcoin Forever"
asciilifeform: as in 'this one is odd and between 3 and 15 and if it ever isn't, pump in the halon
mircea_popescu: uh. what typed language doesn't ?!
mircea_popescu: we're so fucking lucky satoshi wasn't any good with code.
mircea_popescu: not like they wouldn't work without em.
asciilifeform: lol, i still don't know why it needed the gui at all
asciilifeform: now, did the thing -need- a cross-platfom gui? don't ask me, i've never used it...
Adlai: so "eventually" isn't good enough
danielpbarron: i don't think i've ever actually used the qt client
mircea_popescu: we should count outselves lucky satoshi didn't implement bitcoin prototype as a fucking greasemonkey script.
thestringpuller: mike_c: I don't know how one would do Reingold-Tilford that has multiple dependencies
mircea_popescu: re the "you can't" derp : he spends about half the page trying to beg for donations. because hey, money is only dirty if you actually EARN it. otherwise's fine. http://maymay.net/#how-you-can-support-me
mircea_popescu: (i confess didn't bother to click)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it doesn't...
asciilifeform: 'How you can hire me: You can't. I don't work for money....' << wai wat ??!
trinque: mod6: lots of chatter about "can't find -lgcc_s" on teh googles
mircea_popescu: "How you can hire me: You can't. I don't work for money. Money is a technology that destroys trust. Its entire purpose is to short-circuit human relationships in order to insert itself as a middleman. It makes everybody spend more money, at more emotional cost, for things that make us angry at each other. Don't offer to pay me. Seriously. If you offer me money, I will decline on principle."
mircea_popescu: ask, don't ask to ask.
mircea_popescu: can't update OR READ the locked matter until released
ben_vulpes: i can't tell if it's me or thestringpuller on your ignore list kakobrekla
thestringpuller: lol playing with graphs. :P And you say you and academia don't get along.
mircea_popescu: ah that. ok ok nm, im not going to speak on things i don't have before eyes.
mike_c: yeah, but you don't get a sense of tiers unless you use a tree layout
mircea_popescu: moral being, don't try to be funnay with people you don't know, it never works.
BingoBoingo: The wedge issue was more related to which libssl gets compiled into the mess than the version though, isn't it
mod6: doesn't mean that a few bad seeds aren't out there though. more research required.
mod6: danielpbarron: i don't have any evidence to support that.
hegemoOn: davout: complained the artical didn't provide any source, i feed him with two others articles on the same topic
mod6: yeah, the latter. i wouldn't worry about it.
mod6: shouldn't be too long before i get to where i want to be. i can't even do full sync on this vm anyway. i didnt make the vm disk big enough.
BingoBoingo: I was about to call it a night three hours ago, but now the Sun's been up forever and I can't stop watching blocks sync
BingoBoingo: That, I don't know.
mod6: ah, ok: https://github.com/jasperla/openbsd-wip/commit/9ef1b3a903d22c946a4536f56e26cfd16429c4bb << this will fix the random thing, but i don't think the makefile change here does anything.
mod6: BingoBoingo: Thanks for the links, the second one (https://github.com/jasperla/openbsd-wip/blob/9ef1b3a903d22c946a4536f56e26cfd16429c4bb/net/bitcoin/patches/patch-src_wallet_cpp) probably fixes this warning : src/wallet.cpp:858: warning: rand() isn't random; consider using arc4random()
BingoBoingo: They don't use rc4 for arc4_random anymore.
Apocalyptic: can't hurt
Apocalyptic: Adlai, bitcoind shoudln't, indeed. bitcoin-qt is another program
fluffypony: lightning doesn't make a noise...unless it's hitting one of those electric substations and that explodes
mod6: oh LMODE2 didn't get set.
mod6: i still don't think i did the right thing there..
ben_vulpes: doesn't look like there are that many different boost functions called.
mod6: one thing that sucks about this version of bdb 4.6 is that it doesn't support my database flag to autoremote the database transaction logs : dbenv.log_set_config(DB_LOG_AUTO_REMOVE, 1);
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