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mircea_popescu: too long cycle for their attention span.
BingoBoingo: Plant's pickier. They call cannabis weed for a reason, just won't die
asciilifeform: incidentally, i wonder why coke aficionados dun grow the plant themselves, the way potheads do
asciilifeform: iirc 'leaf nodes' are traditionally 'disposable' and never store substantial qty of anyffing
mircea_popescu: so it prolly doesn't even count as "a fifth of a pack", more like "a twelfth"
mircea_popescu: anyway, the 0.2 was prolly first cut already. http://trilema.com/2013/what-the-drug-trade-is-how-the-drug-trade-works-and-why-silk-road-didnt-work-and-didnt-matter/#selection-87.78-87.104 <
asciilifeform: so leaf node, then.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: "white gold" is rare here. Usually cocaine in Uruguay refers to "pasta base" outside of Punta Del Este
mircea_popescu: so in it being subunitary, it's properly called trivial.
mircea_popescu: you can;t get it packaged in less than lb, and usually kg, on intl market.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform he has a point, in that it's subpackaged.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-05 16:43 BingoBoingo: In other local news: drug gang slowly took over public housing complex, used it to "warehouse" trivial quantity of drugs https://www.elobservador.com.uy/nota/desarticulan-clan-narco-que-tomo-complejo-de-casas-2018104203434
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-05#1858552 << 0.2kg of 'white gold' doesn't seem 'trivial'... then again i am not subj expert ☝︎
mircea_popescu: certainly something the foundation could've been advertising itself as doing, lo these many years.
mircea_popescu: though honestly -- this might very well be a foundation item neh ?
asciilifeform: ^ would be interesting to read a new edition of this, if mircea_popescu ever feels inclined to bake one
mircea_popescu: imo we should have lookup version first and foremost. but if diana_coman has the time/inclination, implemnenting both isn't the end of world anyway.
asciilifeform: btw one doesn't ~have~ to use table. (it's maybe 10-20x faster than not, depending on cpu, is why folx do. but when i crc on microcontrollers i dun use table, it eats coupla kB)
mircea_popescu: diana_coman nah, listen, just implement a crc32. it's very simple indeed, i quited the polynomial used, just divide by it and keep the change.
mircea_popescu: jurov i suspected something like that happened.
BingoBoingo: Since this is a "public" building it remains to be seen if the bulldozers come out like they did for the ancient squat on the other side of the impoverished north
BingoBoingo: In other local news: drug gang slowly took over public housing complex, used it to "warehouse" trivial quantity of drugs https://www.elobservador.com.uy/nota/desarticulan-clan-narco-que-tomo-complejo-de-casas-2018104203434 ☟︎
asciilifeform: btw there's a 'fixed buffer <--> stream' item in there that prolly oughta get genesised, i expect it'll come in handy.
asciilifeform: ( imho the only situation where stream abstraction makes sense is when you have serial i/o of variably-sized crapola. to date i've used'em in only 1 piece, the classical-btc block/tx reader/writer , 'nqb' )
asciilifeform: diana_coman: there really aren't so many things that legitimately call for 'streams', i have nfi what the standard authors were thinking... ☟︎☟︎
diana_coman: I'm actually thinking whether to add a simple crc32(array of octets) -> unsigned_32 to EuCrypt; presumably it will be of larger utility anyway;
diana_coman: asciilifeform, yes, that's where I went after ave1 pointed out that the gnat.crc32 is just a stream-wrapper
diana_coman: ave1, ah, the gnat.crc32 is just the stream on top of system.crc32?
diana_coman: as one might tell, I'm looking into using CRC in smg.comms as per latest spec
diana_coman: aaand if I get it right, GNAT.CRC32 uses Ada.Streams.Stream_Element and it expects a String as input so overall it really sounds like back to GNAT.Sockets style, ugh
asciilifeform: jurov: we'll be using auctiontron nao, so won't need to ask folx for halp!! ideally.
asciilifeform: jurov: thx
jurov: My offer was in this case 6170 USD/BTC, with fiat wire sent within a week.
jurov: Next time if representative of public company does ask me this privately I'll go to forum. Lesson learned.
jurov: Hello, I am not sitting on bag of fiat to seek auctioning it off, but when anyone in my wot comes like "halp!!!" i will help them sell coins if possible.
deedbot: http://bimbo.club/?p=41 << Bimbo.Club - TMSR Log Summary - 10/01/2018
mircea_popescu: in other ideas : anyone wanna get a toll free us number & redirect it to here ? seems the better way to work that whole "or call xxx" angle. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-10-04 15:47 mircea_popescu: aaand considering it's been coupla weeks, trinque care to put an eta on it ?
trinque: which reminds me http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-04#1858058 << will scope this and report back. ☝︎
asciilifeform: btw i'm beginning to think #e is the last chan being spammed... even shithole #linux-rockchip was left alone
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well, that'll only last till new deedbot :D
asciilifeform: ( i'd really like to not have to eat the spamola in #e , i'll admit )
mircea_popescu: i dun see a problem, if the owners wanna.
lobbes: mircea_popescu: yeah, was thinkinging of allowing it to sit in n number of castles
asciilifeform: ok where's the castle
mircea_popescu: lobbes you wanna do eulora-and-your-castle sorta thing ?
lobbes: and to remind: this current bot also will only announce in #eulora (I'm still debating about where new bot should annouce)
mircea_popescu: in point of fact this is a well oiled piece of machinery that we've fine tuned over year+ in the other hall.
mod6: gets me on the regular
mod6: lol, thing tab-completes to the bot every time.
mircea_popescu: hanbot do me a favour and add a wu thing for the fellows also. help the rocket along!
mircea_popescu: (for all the interested parties : lobbesbot announces the current slate of auctions hourly in #eulora, and privately on request. see the very useful manual lobbes wrote for it.)
lobbesbot: mod6: Error: Try bidding moar. Starting Bid is 310.08mn, you bid 305763640
mod6: oh, was looking at the '336' line from trinque. herp.
mircea_popescu: i don't have a ready list of the many varieties of items therein sold, maybe lobbes keeps it as part of his eventual marketing efforts, but anyway. it's known diversity.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-05 02:10 asciilifeform: so mircea_popescu dun actually have objection that the item being auctioned is not euloric ?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-05#1858434 << none whatsoever! same mechanism was famously used to sell a notebook i wrote in, and other things. the only fixed thing is the settlement point, and for good reason of the nature of macroeconomic wisdom. ☝︎
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 366 STARTED by trinque: 2000 usd WU Opening: 310080000 coppers Ending: 2018-10-19 02:32:35 UTC (336 hours)
trinque: yeah, that one must die
mircea_popescu: who the fuck ever closes anything, and if they do why;'d they open it.
mircea_popescu: DUMBEST THING EVER.
mircea_popescu: heck, half the fucking reason we even did pizarro was to get this going, if yo urecall.
trinque: lol, shift-q is remarkably close to ctrl-w
mircea_popescu: and i expect as the thing starts getting some history behind it, time intervals can narrow out, removing most of the fx unpleasantness.
mod6: I'd love it, make me a helluv a lot less nervous -- as I was for the last 10 days.
mircea_popescu: mod6 i think that's very sensible, have some cash on hand jic.
mod6: And we'd bid, because I'd like to have some extra cusion in our account down there.
asciilifeform: but for next one oughta use mircea_popescu's bot, since he has no objection to auction of non-euloric goodies
mod6: I'm not confident that we could get that done as quickly as we need it. I did ask, a lot if people were interested. But no takers. But anyone is free to start up an auction now.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: was asking to see if there were a deal. apparently yes. and no we won't go back on it.
mod6: Besides, we really need to get the money moving; even if we wanted to do an auction now, we need $5000.
asciilifeform: and afaik no reason not to set it in motion nao
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i wouldn't go back on a deal. but the past is the past, what's to keep you from doing more for the future.
asciilifeform: next one we oughta do as mircea_popescu described tho
mod6: It's already in motion. Sent him the coins yesterday.
mircea_popescu: in any case to date danielpbarron 's been on the ball facilitating conversions also.
asciilifeform: mod6 didja already assent to jurov's thing, or can we start one of these nao
asciilifeform: then this sounds 100% usable.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the only important magic number is the 10e9 ecu = 1 btc value. otherwise the whole thing's open, you can just say i dunno, "will only take BTC" as a comment in the next line, or w/e.
trinque: it's no problem; this is why I threw a friendly punch instead of quitting the service.
mircea_popescu: well i think part of the problem may be he himself didn't well understand this before right now.
mod6: any regular buyers of btc should just throw out an auction for some minimal amount. Say $500 USD, and once pizarro wins those aucutions, they'll get the hang of it.
trinque: mod6: the hinting thing doesn't work. put a blog post out and give direction, pizarro's process is to ...
mod6: yeah, i think as people see a few of these take place, it'll make a bit more sense.
mircea_popescu: mod6 maybe a lot of this isn't well understood, we got a situation of everything waiting for everything else.
mircea_popescu: symbolic, abstractly defined denominations, like the roman empire's solidus, or what have you. they don't even have to exist to be used.
mod6: i pasted that log line above because i was hinting to readers "hey, if you want to buy pizarro's coins, this is how you do it." But no one even asked.
trinque: more or less what's sitting in the deedbot db
mircea_popescu: ecu is an ~account currency~. you know what those are ?
asciilifeform: trinque: good q. i for instance am not equipped to process ecu atm
mircea_popescu: trinque parties are at liberty to settle either way.
mod6: asciilifeform: well, that's just the thing. anyone who wanted to sell fiats, didn't start up an auction.
mircea_popescu: because it'd run in the obvious -- "you don't like it, put some grease in, what's keeping you".
a111: Logged on 2018-10-05 01:24 trinque: gotta say, I'm eventually going to cancel my service if this "we pulled the price out of our asses, and here it is" thing doesn't turn into a process somebody surfaces on a blog somewhere.
mircea_popescu: if at all used, this system would ~certainly~ quell any sort of even vaguely possible complaint in the vein of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-05#1858281 ☝︎
trinque: what's the ecu to btc bridge, in-game, or requires another sale?
asciilifeform: then we can use the existing mechanism, mod6
asciilifeform: so mircea_popescu dun actually have objection that the item being auctioned is not euloric ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: the great flexibility of this thing allows you to make your own symbols and so on, it's really well made.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform 1bn ecu = 1 btc. 168 is hours to live, here 1 week. "wFF" is a symbol i ad-hoc'd, "wired filthy fiats". explained in the next line. q0 is just a joke as to the poor quality of the fiats in question, has no bearing in this context.