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trinque: ag3nt_zer0: began, then workload ate my free time for a bit, but it's still in my stack
assbot: Logged on 30-07-2015 23:49:03; ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> y'know, like everybody in, e.g., buenos aires, can << this is wild and unsubstantiated FUD. bad coffee is everywhere in ba, the argentines can't grow their own, and their braindead government won't let them import green beans in enough of a timely fashion to keep them from going stale or molding. i have *had* good cups of coffee there, but even in the nice places the espresso is only casi
assbot: Logged on 30-07-2015 01:58:03; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-07-2015#1217301 << the legal precedent is that if you're thye sort of guy that solves his own poroblems rather than seek the help of the state, you're a self-radicalizing terrorists and general wesley snipes of nato wants you in treblinka
decimation: <+jurov> funkenstein_: shannon would apply if the intertubes were analog < shannon applies to intertubes, as his theory applies to all tranmission of information - you must expend energy to communicate and there is no infinitely reliable channel
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: http://www.dbit.com/demo.html << it
shinohai: great article pete_dushenski
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu pre-sale was 1337 - 2000 eth/btc, depending on timing
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski lol ? they claimed iirc something more like 0.001 which is whyt i was offering 5k for 1btc last year
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu you'd be an even older old man by the time you went through a billion eth
ascii_field: mircea_popescu can short eth there
assbot: Logged on 30-07-2015 20:57:05; pete_dushenski: https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-ETC << big money movin' over in 2.0land
mircea_popescu: ascii_field: we know how. but market does not want penicillin. it wants the normal cocktail of horseshit and opium << this sounds like it';d sell
phf: !up ascii_field
phf: ascii_field: i'm having hard time understanding your point then. c++ on a von neumann machine leaks by protocol, so we either write against the guarantees of the underlying machine or not at all?
shinohai: ty ascii_field
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: You most likely used a spammy word combo. Or you lost your automatic approval browser cookie since your last comment.
phf: ascii_field: oh i'm still on the subject of wal logs
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Comment rescued
phf: ascii_field: so what's the difference between existing leaky abstractions that don't leak in some meaningful sense and the ones that we decide to introduce?
phf: ascii_field: there's a lot of leaky abstractions in the current codebase, starting with "string" and "bignum". presumably the solution for those will be to port bitcoind to an architecture with tagged memory?
assbot: Logged on 30-07-2015 10:25:45; scoopbot_revived: Cecil the Lion is a Pretext for Expanding Extraterritoriality of US Law http://qntra.net/2015/07/cecil-the-lion-is-a-pretext-for-expanding-extraterritoriality-of-us-law/
phf: ascii_field: oh i wan't talking in the abstract, i was thinking in terms of prescriptive specifically when it comes to working on bitcoind
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
phf: ascii_field: is your argument then, on a higher level, if abstraction leaks it should not be introduced?
trinque: pete_dushenski: it was in reference to the ISIS convo
shinohai: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: understand, the thing can work while being used only by mircea_popescu and five other similar fellas to 'hawala' at each other.
trinque: ascii_field: the hashing power monopoly scenario; say it forks and there's nearly no hashing power on the side of therealbitcoind
trinque: ascii_field: supposing the network goes the way of the gavins
trinque: ascii_field: tactically speaking, supposing there just isn't time for antifuse rom?
trinque: !up ascii_field
trinque: ascii_field: would not do this
mircea_popescu: ascii_field you will notice, if inclined to notice, the distress manifest in the reduction of funding.
shinohai: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terracotta_Army
ascii_field: kakobrekla: see mircea_popescu's post re: elaine shi & co.
assbot: Logged on 27-07-2015 23:27:09; asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu ^ https://archive.is/2ZiCQ
assbot: Logged on 22-07-2014 22:53:40; mircea_popescu: ;;sell 5000 "ethereum coins deliverable March 15th, 2014" for 1 BTC.
assbot: 5 results for 'from:mircea_popescu ethereum bitcoin' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=from%3Amircea_popescu+ethereum+bitcoin
mircea_popescu: !s from:mircea_popescu ethereum bitcoin
shinohai: https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/3f6f1r/reminder_the_block_gas_limit_is_currently_5000_so/
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
trinque: ;;later tell pete_dushenski let me go ahead and eat my words re: desert gods now
ascii_field: mircea_popescu ought to contact his supplier and have a stern talk re: getting a higher grade of muppet shipped in
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: except that italy and spain did not get history-edited
mircea_popescu: ascii_field and italy was an empire and spain was an empire and what else.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field "standoff", neh ?
mircea_popescu: ascii_field original reads a lot better.
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
shinohai: The scan checks out mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: in other news, http://40.media.tumblr.com/8fbe0005e45f6bc64efc4ca034b46249/tumblr_n0jownfewq1si2s09o1_1280.jpg
funkenstein_: mircea_popescu, good question. i spent a lot of time with the fluid mechanics volume back in the day.
jurov: https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/11760247_10153571490573982_7194971534506656776_n.jpg?oh=53007a0adf39e0cd1a8d16035dc19388&oe=563C0E16 << pic related
mircea_popescu: <funkenstein_> though I can't claim to have gone through all of them in great detail << o.O so then what have you done ?
mircea_popescu: ascii_field just the fact that it was probably determinable with great certainty at age 7 or so that i wouldn't grow up to be mircea_popescu << you think anyone actually wants more of me around ?
trinque: ascii_field: well shit, how many do?
ascii_field: funkenstein_ et al: the basic quandry is that communication channels are scarce and very crowded.
ascii_field: just the fact that it was probably determinable with great certainty at age 7 or so that i wouldn't grow up to be mircea_popescu
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
trinque: ascii_field | on third hand coming out of alien chest, i readily recognize that i probably ought to have been killed at age 7 or so << plenty of intelligent people had all kinds of health problems; surely there are reasons other than "fit as a viking" to live
jurov: funkenstein_: shannon would apply if the intertubes were analog
assbot: Logged on 30-07-2015 15:50:59; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-07-2015#1217498 << i'd have no problem deplyoing it were it to actually work.
trinque: !up ascii_field
mircea_popescu: !v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.phf.2:6cea324aa2207bd1d76e587be3036b547021756929f56d01002638c3c027b975
mircea_popescu: !v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.phf.1:039ae78c7128555ebad588f79c7dc7edd0087e763c49d7b6a7dd0165e1fbbc08
phf: mircea_popescu: 2014-03-27
trinque: mircea_popescu: yup
asciilifeform: this is, if anything, even more batshit than what mircea_popescu asked for
asciilifeform: i'm still waiting, incidentally, for mircea_popescu to tell me how to set the pogo clock without ntp
asciilifeform: (my isp won't like != 17 either. i will have to send these packets to mircea_popescu by camel.)
asciilifeform: with procol # != 17 because mircea_popescu hates 17
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if it's tcp, you are serving jam to folks for showing up
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what's on the cable ?
assbot: Logged on 30-07-2015 14:57:20; mircea_popescu: i find it kinda curious that asciilifeform and decimation can at the same time hold the discussion of political time we had recently in mind, and ALSO think breaking udp, or doing away with ntp is a bad idea.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu volunteers to shoot it, not realizing that the dog-kicker will kick every dog mircea_popescu ever bends to pet
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not suggesting that everyone is to move to mordor and subscribe to this isp
asciilifeform: my isp clearly did not get defrauded in the same way as mircea_popescu's - because their six-figure machine does not as a result go down
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: as decent as it gets (line saturation)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'm on a consumer fiber and, with modern hardware on my end (by no means six-figure), udp flood does not touch me.
asciilifeform: not as theoretical as mircea_popescu might think
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: but not udp?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: so then you get flooded with TCP SYNs. same difference.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you gotta understand the protocol stack.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: your machinery goes down even when you instruct it to drop all udp on the floor ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: very easy to filter: reject anything that isn't a valid gossipd packet addressed to your key
asciilifeform: it is relevant to having created this bizarre situation where mircea_popescu thinks that tcp somehow solves ANY of the problems discussed earlier
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: realize that udp ddoes only ever existed because the net is willing to route packets 'from victim's' machine to the idiot tv boxes, who 'answer' them
asciilifeform: the unfortunate place we're going to is where gossip packets can only be emitted, received, or routed by os that we personally issue; and will only travel on cables to and from mircea_popescu's house
asciilifeform: what i'd really like to see is what mircea_popescu proposes i use for single-packet auth that 1) isn't udp 2) existing net will reliably route 3) existing os will agree to emit without any new code running as root
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i haven't any notion as to ~why~
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: me restarting phuctor
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there was no legacy lockin in bitcoin !
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i see a difference of degree only
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ergo, for so long as anyone has the choice of '120v or hunt rats by candlelight', there will be 120v around
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu had 240 run to his flat ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i don't see this picture where it is absent in us but somehow present in patagonia
asciilifeform: this is different from 'i recommend that mircea_popescu filter all unsigned udp at his door'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the link concerned ~infrastructure~. usg is trying so that when i get my signed udp, and try to send it to mircea_popescu, it won't leave my street even.
asciilifeform: and i suppose i will write letters to mircea_popescu and spirit them out in the rectums of pig carcasses loaded onto the great sailing ships ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu prefers to be ddosed with tcp ?