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BingoBoingo: I never understood why HDMI and DVI took off, what was wrong with DB13W3
assbot: i3 - improved tiling wm
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: ones that spew a multitude of small top-level windows will be a pain, though.
thestringpuller: KDE and GNOME are like choosing between two bowls of shit
thestringpuller: i'll have to give a look
artifexd: I remember a story from the early 90's about people coming to the US from Russia and getting stuck in the supermarket because they couldn't choose a toothpaste due to the number of choices.
asciilifeform: the hardest thing, it seems, for folks freshly cured of winblows or apple, is: learning to handle choice.
pankkake: for window management… there's many
pankkake: artifexd: for full desktop + app suite, you mean. and there is at least xfce
assbot: ratpoison: Say good-bye to the rodent
artifexd: As far as desktops go, kde and gnome are pretty much all there is, right?
Apocalyptic: <asciilifeform> you can use kde, gnome, etc. // also known as the clickodrome
asciilifeform: you can use kde, gnome, etc. i suppose - but see mircea_popescu's recent essay re: what that's like.
asciilifeform: gentoo is more or less a final solution to the 'extraneous crud problem' much lamented by ubuntu, etc. users.
thestringpuller: ATC is THE altcoin...
mod6: pankkake: did you try out pcbsd?
Apocalyptic: damn ATC is roughly 5 times for valuable that doge
pankkake: bsd ain't ready for the desktop
thestringpuller: and depends on what you want to be proficient int
artifexd: I'm not married to Centos. It is just what I've used for servers at home.
TomServo: Anyone tried Elemental OS?
thestringpuller: get red hat if that's what you want
artifexd: Additional requirement: It has to be multi-monitor friendly. I'm driving over 10megapixels of desktop.
artifexd: I was thinking about Ubuntu but apparently they suck for reasons that are unclear to me.
artifexd: Any recommendations for a linux desktop? Requirements: It would mostly be used for dev work and standard internet user stuff and I have to be able to run Windows in a VM (work requires Visual Studio).
moiety: i have to run out for half hour again but i'll be back asaic
thestringpuller: password is used in two places unfortunately two very important places
jurov: http://www.rouming.cz/roumingShow.php?file=smart_girl.jpg thestringpuller is smart :D
jurov: cuz i'm at a party atm, just wanted to shut down my lappy
jurov: thestringpuller: at least you shouldn't mention where the pw is from. you're very lucky you caught me
thestringpuller: yea that's my project for the weekend pankkake just been a bit lazy
assbot: Pass: The Standard Unix Password Manager
thestringpuller: well at least I don't use that password in too many places ~_~ 2nd time i've done that. ugh
jurov: drop table users;
jurov: ;;ident thestringpuller
thestringpuller: too bad that's use on coin br
kakobrekla: change you password to "hows your day?"
thestringpuller: 2nd time i've done that
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] [PAID] 16.96747444 BTC to 29`438 shares, 57638 satoshi per share
thestringpuller: gotta change that password
bitcoinpete: fluffypony: how to become rich? first, have several million Dollars. << lulz
pankkake: benkay: yes, also one of the reason the contract would have to be long. limits on upside to not go bankrupt in rare cases (say, 3×). limits on volume - many assets have no trading happening…
HeySteve: this is very common in gold markets though, it's blatant manipulation
HeySteve: no one looking to get good prices will sell everything huge volumes all at once
HeySteve: gold's been suppressed for ages with all kinds of crazy slamdown trades
HeySteve: it's like how brokers can fleece clients by trading through their stops
benkay: what i'm trying to convey to you is that it's standard operating procedure regardless of the law.
HeySteve: sure, that's common sense. but banks trading against their customers, well I'm pretty sure that's illegal. Goldman has done it too
benkay: p. sure this happened with the mpex btc/usd options as well. no proof, but...
benkay: anyways - don't enter into contracts with people who can swing the market around to make the contract pay out however they want.
benkay: and for the record people have sold bitcoins naked as well in the past
benkay: afaik there's no way to evaluate the float on mpex. you just gotta trust mircea_popescu.
benkay: if havelock wanted to enable naked short selling they could do that in half a second
benkay: no this has to do with paper of companies, not bitcoins themselves
HeySteve: this sort of thing isn't possible with Bitcoin though
HeySteve: Patrick Byrne from Overstock has been pushing for that ban
benkay: the solution apparently is to ban naked short selling and protect the institutionalized idiocy that is the US paper transfer 'network'. ☟︎
benkay: if the US stock market wasn't running on 60s technology with no idea if a given broker actually had the things they were selling, this wouldn't be a problem.
HeySteve: yeah absolutely, and pretty sure governments like to see gold price suppressed. major rises in gold give away their inflationary printing
benkay: this however is an artifact of a totally hilariously antiquated system, non?
benkay: okay fine no its not, because i haven't made the paper up.
HeySteve: but that's not naked short selling
benkay: it's mp's responsibility to audit my ability to pay, not the governments to prohibit the borrowing.
benkay: there is absolutely fuck-all wrong with my borrowing 100B from mircea_popescu and selling them on the open market to pay him back later.
benkay: the myth of a stable market is sold to consumer investors to legitimize state intervention in the markets.
HeySteve: explain gold market then, benkay
benkay: bit of a collateralization problem, though.
HeySteve: it depends on the structure of the market. if you can naked short commodities, commodity prices will become distorted
Apocalyptic: <benkay> HeySteve: outlawing market manipulation is a fools errand. those with the cash to throw around are going to do so regardless of the regulatory environment and do so all the time. << pretty much benkay
BingoBoingo: benkay: Well, you want to know how much it will crash? Why not seek a guestimate from the source?
benkay: HeySteve: outlawing market manipulation is a fools errand. those with the cash to throw around are going to do so regardless of the regulatory environment and do so all the time.
benkay: BingoBoingo: i have no questions for the man.
pankkake: however 1) I don't have the time 2) talkvestors wouldn't understand it
HeySteve: benkay, market manipulation on that scale is supposedly illegal
pankkake: benkay: I was thinking of starting a general shorting fund - sell shares that mimic shares in every way (pay same divs, buyback at vwap after X months). sell the shares at a discount to make them more appealing than real shares
BingoBoingo: benkay: Shame Mr. Ohio is a wonder place isn't here to !up and ask that question to.
benkay: HeySteve: i don't see the problem. sucker bought shit paper from a firm with a big fucking stick. firm used the stick to make the market do what they wanted.
benkay: can't short the fucker, they'll arbitrarily pin the price at .008.
benkay: i wonder how hard rent will get hammered in the next bull market.
HeySteve: finally, the smoking gun of gold price manipulation: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-05-23/i-am-hoping-mini-puke-details-barclays-gold-manipulation
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 521.07, Best ask: 523.4, Bid-ask spread: 2.33000, Last trade: 523.5, 24 hour volume: 18398.37867255, 24 hour low: 517.01, 24 hour high: 547.1, 24 hour vwap: 531.31044325
bitcoinpete: and we're only 5.5 years into this thing
bitcoinpete: there honestly aren't enough hours in a day to document "all the scams"
bitcoinpete: only occasionally beating a scam to a pulp when the mood and/or opportunity arises.
bitcoinpete: and to share what works
bitcoinpete: it's far more sane to explore what makes the non-scams different
bitcoinpete: it's essentially impossible to document all the nitty gritty little nonsense ipos/alts/blahblahs out there
asciilifeform: jurov: normally i don't give a rat's arse if people want to use it as a hammer. but inevitably they will whine, 'it's a poor hammer, help us'
bitcoinpete: thestringpuller: the point of the "wallet inspector" term is that everything is a scam until proven otherwise
bitcoinpete: ;;later tell benkay they might suspect...
TomServo: Ignorance is bliss in this case.
TomServo: bitcoinpete: I gotta say, I curse your name often for revealing to me how these tards pronounce 'doge'. :P
jurov: pentesting or just trying the knobs?
bitcoinpete: jurov: i gotta say, quite impressed with coinbr thus far. wd
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.42885352 BTC to 8`552 shares, 28401 satoshi per share
assbot: Millenials averse to stocks? Nah, just poor. Or in Bitcoin. http://t.co/gG0uNT05qR /azizonomics /FDRLST
jurov: i guess ascii would get pretty annoyed, too. if cardano ended up used as btc wallet :D
jurov: kakobrekla: did bfl publish the hw specs at all? (aside from number of fans)
jurov: and to annoy stickfag >:D
jurov: maybe even most of trezor code can be ported to have best of both worlds