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diana_coman: hm, the first thing I purposefully learnt when on skis was...how to fall; as in: how to fall *without* breaking anything etc ☟︎
ben_vulpes: also helmets are hella comfy and i have nfi what you'd need peripheral vision for ☟︎
trinque: I think rather that it's a mark of a ~severely impoverished~ society that pregnancy is this harrowing pitfall ☟︎☟︎
trinque: regarding the pill, I wouldn't be surprised at all if it's had a profound impact on female behavior. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there's also a sub, "laser replacement for radiotherapy". i dunno tho.
mircea_popescu: i dun think it's for fusion.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> on occasion. yes with teeth. i also pluck their legs and let them die. in general i torture a good half of all mosquitoes. << i like his enthusiasm. im usually content to simply smash them like @ c3. but, hey, i gotta try this.
mircea_popescu: from what i hear smallest kitten in the room if that room'd be in the 50 contiguous fattes.
mircea_popescu: yeah. it's a very strong version of i suppose westernarck. if it's seen you for a long time it's not likely to attack unprovoked.
mircea_popescu: i suspect that may be the deep driver, guy knows the animal is harmless, much more so than wife, but visitors shit pants.
asciilifeform: 'when, WHEN can i be eaten!!'
mircea_popescu: i knew a guy who kept a couple.
mircea_popescu: i very much doubt any english speaker read enough evola to distinguish him from, whatever, eco
mircea_popescu: i said red alerts bs
asciilifeform: i mean, who the hell cares if ru court indicts somebody. spain, germany, etc. won't extradite to ru.
mircea_popescu: i do ok.
mircea_popescu: i never bought into that "gotta be the better guy" theor.y
asciilifeform: the mosquitoes here in mosquitolandia are large, but apparently not quite the size of mircea_popescu's ( though at c3 i saw a great many mosquitoes, but 0 bit ! some sort of incompatibility..? )
mircea_popescu: on occasion. yes with teeth. i also pluck their legs and let them die. in general i torture a good half of all mosquitoes.
mircea_popescu: i do.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-16 22:55 mircea_popescu: yeah, i have nfi why teh putin isn't flooding the usg with red notices for usgtards.
mircea_popescu: "There is nothing smoother then this rum. I recommend everyone to get this. I bought it in Costa Rica for $45. It goes great with come." << bwahahaha that site. teh sluts know.
mircea_popescu: yeah, i have nfi why teh putin isn't flooding the usg with red notices for usgtards. ☟︎
Framedragger: i was getting incredulous with the first sentence description but my worries were soothed after reading that they're built on ethereum and that they had an I C O
pete_dushenski: in other news, i'm happy to report that i've successfully run alf's wire patch. hooray!1
ben_vulpes: but i am not a big bird specialist
davout: i'll dig it, the question is interesting
davout: i somehow just don't see it
davout: ben_vulpes: i think some don't
ben_vulpes: i imagine the actuation forces in a hyraulicized biz jet are...larger
davout: i had to double check, thought it was some kind of hoax
ben_vulpes: well at first i thought it was a good pun on don sancho using the portugese dao, and punning on teh dao attacker
davout: if "cutting one's own throat" == "not being able to reverify" i'll agree
davout: i think pruning would compare better to cutting everyone's throat "just a little" bit than "cutting one's own throat"
davout: so yeah, i'm satisfied with the answers in the sense that i did not miss any particular argument against pruning
davout: mircea_popescu: not really because i'm not particularly interested in discussing pruning from a position where i'm somehow supposed to defend it
mircea_popescu: young-man-and-his-binlde* i mean
a111: Logged on 2017-03-10 14:50 Framedragger: i like my rc airplanes. "the will of history necessitates you to X" has a marx'ified hegelian vibe :p
asciilifeform: which i thought was pretty clear
trinque: davout: I'm saying spurious blocks claiming a very old parent block
mircea_popescu: "txn don't match what i have"
trinque: whole thing doesn't even have to be SSD; I routinely shuffle off chunks of bdb to platters
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i see no need for the subertfuge. if tomorrow thing is pruned to include "last 1k blocks" i'll just mine a 1k long chain in which everyone donates their coin to me, and bomb all the miners who refuse to mine on it. pie.
davout: i'm merely looking for things i'd have missed apart from "being unable to serve peers historical data is a dealbreaker"
asciilifeform: proponents of 'pruning' want to replace 'the weight of 400k blocks' with a promisetronic 'checkpoint list'. which, i imagine the game plan is, to eventually include deviations from the usual proof of work, per gavin's unabashed declaration where 'WE say what the blocks were'
mircea_popescu: to which the only sane lucentio answer is "fu, i own them, and if you don't like it ask me."
mircea_popescu: no but consider. we currently have the situation where lucentio of pisa comes to padua, and inquires, "who owns these houses ?" and gets answer "x, y, z, k" and then inquires "oh yeah ? how do i know that ?" and gets answer, "because they bought from endless list tracing back to the dude that built them".
asciilifeform: and 'i want to not have printolade exist' and 'i want not to have to buy new hdd every year' is such a pair.
asciilifeform: davout: i suppose that works
asciilifeform: i dunno of an engl. equivalent
mircea_popescu: this delusion of contextless existence, "i am me" hurr.
mircea_popescu: i'm not even sure what the thought process is here, beyond "i don't want to store books because momstate makes libraries and oh, where did anything but cosmo go ?!"
trinque: if the whole net is trimming how am I with a new node going to verify once
davout: i contend that verifying "once" is not that different from "verifying at will"
mircea_popescu: davout because who the fuck are you and why do i have to take your word and if your house burns down what do you do.
davout: mircea_popescu: how is it nonsense if i have personnally verified the chain?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'd say that the idea is impossible in the general case.
mircea_popescu: i'm not proposing the solution is acceptable. i am showing you that your OVERSTRONG STATEMENT is nonsense.
a111: Logged on 2017-02-27 16:56 mircea_popescu: but the correct trb-i might just as well end up this situation where block reward is 1mn bitcoin, and it dies within 1mn blocks. so all mining does is produce ~ a lease ~ on a chunk of bitcoin. and the value of old bitcoin is monotonically decreasing over their lifetime.
davout: your copy of the blockchain being personal i don't see any other problem than peer-service, if, and only if, you've validated it as validly producing the UTXO set you consider valid
davout: i see not being able to serve historical data to peers as the major one from where i stand
ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: yeah, but falls apart if i want to hold onto a signed thing.
davout: and so I received my first deposit notification or whatever, which was indeed encrypted.
davout: in other GPG-related lulz, when I decided to give the kraken idiots a chance, i ticked the "Encrypt mail sent to me with GPG" and gave my key
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: ah ok, i guess the issue is that the sig is part of binary blob, need to convert it, etc, hrmh
mircea_popescu: a sort of ad-hoc !!v-ing i guess. works.
danielpbarron: i really like the implied sig of the encrypt part of received message back to sender. that way neither party can hold signed material against the other in public
Framedragger: but i'm prob missing somthin
ben_vulpes: i didn't understand his shovelful, is all
ben_vulpes: no i want to see the fucking signature
ben_vulpes: i guess i can --verbose and get the mpi values?
davout: i didn't see this "has to be spent before reappear"
davout: as i understand it, since it's removed from the index
asciilifeform: davout: as i understand, the attack described in 7th paragraph, with the transplanted tree, would still work today.
davout: i just click on random shit
davout: you can't have this in bitcoin is all i'm saying
davout: i don't particularly care, just wondering about "you can do it with a system otherwise identical to traditional bitcoin"
davout: don't see how, as far as i know you can't craft a tx without providing the tx of its parents
davout: i'm not sure i grokked your 'casks' scheme, but if i understood what i did correctly positions would somehow be pre-allocated for transactions, making this possible again, right?
asciilifeform: trb, i will note, already will not relay any attempt to spend anything not already in a block.
asciilifeform: you just have a 'i can't believe it's not bitcoin' rather than bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: you're a fine gent, standing on a pile of "because so and so, the sky is falling." "well... i don't see it fallen" "show me why not!"
mircea_popescu: i'm sorry, you're trying to recreate a coinbase as in, miner subsidy ?
asciilifeform: iirc ben_vulpes set up a similar experiment ( lan miner ) a month or so ago, but i dun recall what came of it ☟︎
mircea_popescu: not that i'm proposing the insanity is sane.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's an absence, not a presence, of code, how do i point to an absence ?
asciilifeform: now for the practical consequence. what this means, as far as i can tell, is that there can exist -- may already exist -- chains of tx in trb, that cannot be walked back to a coinbase.
asciilifeform: as i understand, it will validate, in trb.
asciilifeform: now which one did i spend !!!
asciilifeform: say i walk in with a tx that spends the output of d5d27987d2a3dfc724e359870c6644b40e497bdc0589a033220fe15429d88599
asciilifeform: i suppose in the one where nobody revalidates the chain, ever ?
asciilifeform: ^ do you see a check for previous existence here, mircea_popescu ? because i don't...
asciilifeform: i read the code, again and again, and it would seem like 968-984 is the whole of the crutch. and in classic nsa style, the comment misdirects the reader to think that the 'bug' was 'fixed'.
mircea_popescu: i suspect there's some crutch code somewhere.
asciilifeform: what did i miss
mircea_popescu: i suppose that was a hook intended for some kind of anonimization thatnever made it in.
mircea_popescu: oh, i saw.
mircea_popescu: now, i do propose that it is actually better to have undefined-sized indexen than to have colliding txn or "limited to x bits" txn count.
asciilifeform: the way i read ln. 968, miners TODAY are apparently more than welcome to create a duplicate coinbase, so long as it is a dupe of a ~spent~ coinbase.
asciilifeform: i mean, the algos.