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mircea_popescu: And despite people saying "RAID is not a backup"" << "... i classified it as off-site so it is in a sauna somewhere which is
the highest security level
there is."
mircea_popescu: <Mats_cd03> i dunno why any of you bother << cause
their girlfriends have girlfriends of
their own and so
they get bored ?
Naphex: was readying
the usagi
thread
fluffypony: Apocalyptic: I'm hoping
to join
the honoured ranks
Naphex: or your bash history file, or just listening
to your
tty
Naphex: too bad
they can just grab your walletpassphrase from your code lolol
Naphex: "This" makes me seem
totally irresponsible. But here's
the deal; we had regular, weekly, off-site backups. Even if someone got a hold of
the backups
they would be unable
to
take money out of
the wallet without
the password. And despite people saying "RAID is not a backup""
fluffypony: "Do you want me
to pull quotes from #bitcoin-assets
too?"
fluffypony: thestringpuller: "Don't be a "fucking" retard, and watch your language with me." - lol, you have incurred
the wrath of usagi!
Naphex: "give him all your money. maybe
the next failure could be due
to some rats chewing on
the cables ??" i lol'd
Naphex: "Actually I have
to admit I am a little suprised at
the negativity I'm getting over
this, it's as if people automatically assume every failure is intentional."
Mats_cd03: dude's sipping mai
tais and lolling at a laptop somewhere in bermuda
bitcoinpete: we'll see if he follows
through or if he wants
to be be all plaintextprivate
bitcoinpete: so i've asked him
to make his requests public on
the comments section of my blog
bitcoinpete: fluffypony: i got a kick out of
those later comments on
the bitcointalk
thread
bitcoinpete: ;;rate usagi -5 milkman who can't back up .dat file. not
to be
trusted with coins.
chetty: hey lets
throw some spagetti at
the wall and see if it sticks
xmj: I say it how I've seen it in countless incubators, coworking spaces, and
the likes.
Naphex: 16:07 <+mircea_popescu> xe4l, nobody is going
to drop such a valuable exploit on such a shitty
thing << you don't burn exploits
xe4l: not very many elite 16 year olds
these days
mircea_popescu: xe4l, nobody is going
to drop such a valuable exploit on such a shitty
thing
xe4l: Naphex: hm, wonder how
they got
that access
mircea_popescu: at least usagi & co have
the excuse
that
they insistently make nonsensical claims because
their brains don't actually work
chetty: I guess we all could use a refresher every now and
then
mircea_popescu: chetty, for some reason benkay figured we need live examples of
the ycombinator-and-clones "businessmen" for further lulz.
Naphex: i've seen 16 y/o with access
to hacked vps supervisors on pretty big providers
chetty: oy vey, some of
the 'thinking' going on here explains all
the recent big data breeches nicely
Naphex: developed using lean mean startup strategy of makeing
the website, and hosting
the vps on amazon aws
Naphex: with everything you do readable
to everyone
assbot: "It's like
twitter. Except we charge people
to use it."
xe4l: haha Apocalyptic damn
tooin
Naphex: to me
this sounds exactly like
the markting bull in
the oldies, where you buy shitty 12$ hosting
mircea_popescu: or how
the us
turned itself from a world power into a competitor for nigeria.
Apocalyptic: it requires a brain, and it's getting expensive
to fond one
these days
mircea_popescu: "it's
too expensive
to do what we should nbe doing but are
too lazy
to do"
Naphex: like its expensive
to
think about infrastructure
Naphex: i don't get most of
the arguments anyway
mircea_popescu: that's why salaries were invented :
to pay for work in marginal businesses.
mircea_popescu: but if you're claling your marginal business "A start-up" you're basically begging
to work for free
mircea_popescu: i mean sure, everyone gotta eat, so plentry of people will habve
to be employed in marginal businesses.
xmj: mircea_popescu: Bootstrapped lean startups have next
to no financial structure.
Apocalyptic: <Naphex> what have
this people been brain washed
to do // kinda been wondering
the same
xe4l: I agree with
that mircea_popescu
xmj: I'm not
talking about business services.
Naphex: what have
this people been brain washed
to do
mircea_popescu: or
to put it in another perpsective, if you're in any hurry either your product isn't in a good enough market or your financial structure is shit.
xe4l: so you can start
tuning
the product
xe4l: b2c demands you begin
to get feedback from your customers
xe4l: sadly, as much as is I love building
the perfect
thing on
the first go, it's not
terribly pheasable unless it's a b2b business
xmj: and
thinking about low-level crap like hardware and network infrastructure just is not conducive
to your MVP.
Naphex: see, now it
takes 2 days
xe4l: the startup strategy I'm
the most fond of at
this point is
to get
the MVP out
the door asap so your customers can begin
to use your product
xmj: well
that's a shame.
Naphex: that you're doing high level expensive
thinking on
Naphex: and run everything elsewhere not
thinking about anything except your very nice hot new facebook app
xe4l: aws is
terribly expensive
though
xmj: 75% of
the startups I know run off AWS.
xmj: You do not
think about hardware until you get
to a point where you can reasonably say you've run into scaling issues.
xmj: mircea_popescu: Listen kiddo. I'm
talking how it's really done in here.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: i dunno why you
think you're entitled
to put forth
that nonsense in
the company of adults, but don't.
xmj: Naphex: no,
thoughts like
that right in
the beginning are expensive, spin up
two-three VPS until you have a customer base
to warrant and pay for
those
thoughts.
Naphex: and
they will have a big sec status on
their servers
pankkake: jurov: but
that's
the spirit of open source! :)
Naphex: <+mircea_popescu> Naphex: most of
their customers are banks, and all kinds of srsfolk <<
that made my uvula bleed. when did banks become
technologically apt omfg. << Maybe but
they can pick good datacenters ;]
xe4l works with
the people
that previously worked at github
jurov: with decent 0days...just
that anyone can commit anything
Naphex: picking hardware
to run your shit should be one of
the first steps
Naphex: xmj: hey distracted, since when do you do high level apps, and not
think about
the hardware
they are running or
the performance you want
to get out of it
xe4l: github actually has a decent setup
these days
mircea_popescu: the universe where a heroic
twentysomething starts leinterwebs bizniss is a very interesting fictional metaverse. we revel in retelling
the stories of adventure and glory much like some women enjoy watching
telenovellas.
jurov: xmj, you should praise github
then
xmj: mircea_popescu:
then
that's just you doing it very very wrong as
those shouldn't be part of your business in
the beginning.
xmj: mircea_popescu: if you do a startup, with an idea in mind -- highlevel one -- and let yourself get distracted by hardware/network issues right in
the beginning
assbot: F.MPIF Live
Tracker - Btc Alpha
pankkake: by bank can't even configure
their ssl properly
mircea_popescu: pankkake: do romanians pronounce cloud in funny ways
too? << cloud in romanian sounds pretty much like duncan mcloud from
the clan mcloud.
mircea_popescu: Naphex: most of
their customers are banks, and all kinds of srsfolk <<
that made my uvula bleed. when did banks become
technologically apt omfg.
jurov: what shitcenter was
this ? most of faux-dcs i know about
mircea_popescu: the reasons being, of course, outside of
the realm of your priors.
xmj: mircea_popescu: if your girlfriend doesn't,
then you're doing it wrong.
mircea_popescu: jurov: upo
thread of expulsion from
the dc << what shitcenter was
this ?
jurov: i mean,
that's fallacious argument
mircea_popescu: dude computers
that "just work" are like girlfriends
that "just fuck"
jurov: oh he's clearly
trolling