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TheNewDeal: perhaps it was around the time MPIF came about?
TheNewDeal: hmmm I'm going to have to do some research. thought I read something that said they were upping the amount of BTC bet
TheNewDeal: MP, but recently they have upped the amounts they bet, by a large amoutn
mike_c: well, house bets are ahead. the house isn't because it gives away half the bets.
mircea_popescu: so far the house is ahead, mike_c did the math recently.
mircea_popescu: <TheNewDeal> but if they're bets are going to be a large portion of the gains/losses, it seems like investors would want to know what their history has been on the bets << you know investors can readily revbiew this as they're all published
TheNewDeal: thats possible. I have 5.6 total BTC in for a timeweight of ~197,000. Care to share what you're trying to trade?
BingoBoingo: TheNewDeal: Sure. That's about half of the question's answer. What of instead of BTC for positions the trade was positions for positions?
TheNewDeal: does that make any sense?
TheNewDeal: that I would pay out to your address
TheNewDeal: so you would send me 1 btc, and receive X timeweight
TheNewDeal: you would give a amount, say 1 BTC, and we would tack on a timeweight to it
TheNewDeal: the trade would work like this
BingoBoingo: TheNewDeal: Supposed you did, because we were both looking to hedge. How would this trade work?
BingoBoingo: TheNewDeal: How do these arrangements work? Suppose I wanted to trade some of my no for your yes, how do we price these?
TheNewDeal: I have bets on Yes , and I would still like to trade exposure
BingoBoingo: TheNewDeal: TheNewDeal Were you trying to trade Bastille Day bet Exposure yesterday?
TheNewDeal: but if they're bets are going to be a large portion of the gains/losses, it seems like investors would want to know what their history has been on the bets
mircea_popescu: i think your talking about bitbet is incidental to what it'll actually do.
TheNewDeal: Like Gain:X, Total Resolved: Y, Pending: Z
TheNewDeal: will bitbet start reporting the results of their bets in the manner I was talking about yesterday?
TheNewDeal: I play around with my model a little bit and try to make it look realist. Gribble and bitcoinwisdom are pretty much looking at something like the last 500 or 1000 blocks and predicting off that
mircea_popescu: but what's the point/use for a changing prediction ?
TheNewDeal: updating TheNewDeal's prediction to 6.3%
TheNewDeal: I'm very sad I didn't get to see the sexy Sharapova in action :(
mike_c: hah, yeah, i'm glad i didn't watch it. too much of a sweat.
mircea_popescu: at some point the russian fowled 5 serves in a row
mircea_popescu: that little shit gave sharapova a good run for her tits.
mircea_popescu: i caught it starting with the 4-6 6-7 1-0 moment
TheNewDeal: and females tennis too..
mircea_popescu: mike_c btw, the coffee shop i happenedto stop for my pasteleria today (which dubs itself as a "local de encuentro" and during the night time doubles as a whorehouse) just happened to run the match on a large screen
TheNewDeal: usually the sports ones are sparse
TheNewDeal: can't believe 7 btc was laid down on that bet
assbot: BitBet - Simona Halep to win Roland Garros :: 1.03 B (14%) on Yes, 6.22 B (86%) on No | closed 2 weeks 1 day ago
TheNewDeal: I love mango and I love ginger, but I haven't had the combination. Sounds like an indian dish to me
mike_c: best part of winning a bitbet: gloating in the comments.
mircea_popescu: it turns out to be a pretty great breakfast!
TheNewDeal: loved the mango and ginger breakfast picture as well
mircea_popescu: well i guess with all teh encouragement ima make more travel log posts
TheNewDeal: why thank you assbot
asciilifeform: think how many potentially-interesting folks are floating there still.
asciilifeform: in retrospect, being cast ashore from the shit-ocean was astonishingly good fortune.
asciilifeform: when you merit your own line of code in some turdmeister's db handler, but not banned... what do we call this.
asciilifeform: ban isn't quite the word here
asciilifeform: tbh, i wasn't properly banned from any of them.
mircea_popescu: just how many of these social media sites did you get banned from ?
asciilifeform: (lw is another reddit clone that makes hn, etc. look sane. inhabited by folks terrified of robo-apocalypse. i was drummed out of lw as a 'future genocidal criminal' for... considering resurrecting doug lenat's 'eurisko.') ☟︎
asciilifeform: this is sometimes done in academia. as described in an infamous crackpot essay, 'stealing the chaos':
thestringpuller: but I guess with pankkake 's bot that's not necessary anymore
thestringpuller: refreshing trilema hoping to see an announcement #assetslife
asciilifeform: this kind of thing is the norm in techno-derpatronics
asciilifeform: ^ a problem gleefully re-introduced by quite a few 'language of the day!' designers
gribble: Funarg problem - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Funarg_problem>; The FUNARG Problem Explained - Software Preservation Group: <http://www.softwarepreservation.org/projects/LISP/MIT/Weizenbaum-FUNARG_Problem_Explained-1968.pdf>; FUNARG Problem - DSpace@MIT: <http://dspace.mit.edu/bitstream/handle/1721.1/5854/AIM-199.pdf>
mircea_popescu: anyway, fun to see people on these very successful sites are lively debating solved problems in fain, years ago. makes my asshole swell.
mircea_popescu: The Reddit discussion model is completely oriented towards providing the fast food of news commentary, where your << missing 1st line
mircea_popescu: wow look at that : they actually understand what's wrong with the ~others~
mircea_popescu: h, and of course, no one but the people I responded to will ever read the things I wrote hours after the thread dropped off the front page."
mircea_popescu: I've said it before, and I'll say it again: I can easily follow 50+ page PHPbb threads that drag on for months or even years, or 4chan threads with hundreds of posts and more on the way every time you refresh, but a small conversation (in reality; I considered it huge by my HN standards) I had on here the other day with about 10 comments or so made my head spin. I wrote half the posts and it was still hard to follow! O
mircea_popescu: "enjoyment of the first look you take at a comment page is prioritized over active participation. That's great if you're trying to attach ads to pictures of cats, but if you're trying to have a real conversation, it just gets in the way. I can read, I don't need an algorithm to tell me which comments are notable and which ones are junk. If I see a troll post on any other site, I don't seize up and have an aneurism, I j
mircea_popescu: dub so the guy you're "shunning" twists your nipples.
dub: safest way to deal with some kinds of damage
midnightmagic: sounds like new-age nonsense to me
mircea_popescu: so i guess the kids in charge have some deep seated issues with this sort of passive-agressive nonsense.
mircea_popescu: dub actually the material i've seen included a lot of derping about how fucking horrible and psychologically blabla that is.
dub: ircd ignores msgs, client cant tell
asciilifeform: he logs out - they're gone.
asciilifeform: midnightmagic: hellban << victim thinks his posts show.
BingoBoingo: This has to be some clinically defective reasoning.
BingoBoingo: I have to wonder who the original autist was to come up with the idea of a slowban.
mircea_popescu: this dovetails neatly with "women don't have to do anything in particular to not get fucked"
BingoBoingo: What the fuck. Someone provokes annoyance in good faith and the response is now to lie and cover yourself in shit so they don't want to be seen around you?
mircea_popescu: anyway, gotta remember that Jeff Atwood is pretty fucking stupid.
mircea_popescu: how do these idiots live with themselves ?
mircea_popescu: "i have talked to some people i won't name about some things i won't name but take my word on it that it's relevant, and they said my stupidity is entirely correct"
mircea_popescu: "That said, every community is different. I've personally talked to people in charge of large online communities – ones you probably participate in every day – and part of the reason those communities haven't broken down into utter chaos by now is because they secretly hellban and slowban their most problematic users. "
BingoBoingo: Is there a link to when this announcement was announced?
assbot: Join the Fuzz - We Love the Violence - YouTube
mircea_popescu: dub the fuzz is after you now ?
asciilifeform: dub: the infamous 'pencil in space capsule' problem
dub: the fibers can easily be made fuzz. Being crushed and shortened in unit length, staple tends to become fly or dusts with ease and dispersed into atmosphere.Their Carbon Fiber users are advised to be careful not to dispose naked skins to the fibers and to take deliberate dusts cleaning measures naked skins.
asciilifeform: announcement << i'll take the shot. mp to sell warehouses in Ar for btc.
mircea_popescu: nobody can point to such a broken spot on the interwebs, but nevertheless the apparent abundance of such is why every lemming wears plaid.
mircea_popescu: yet each and every one will pass this bit of "oh, leaving behind the broken spot"
mircea_popescu: this is such an amusing thing, because of all the utterly meaningless forums out there pretending to be communities and deluding themselves as to their own relevancy, not a single one would admit it's a failure
mircea_popescu: "But in the absence of some system of law, the tiny minority of users out to do harm – intentionally or not – eventually drive out all the civil community members, leaving behind a lawless, chaotic badland."
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I wonder why silver is the white metal everyone seems to horde and not gallium.
thestringpuller: how do we know you didn't change the date of the announcement
mircea_popescu: pretty cool way to run a bet i say
mircea_popescu: can be a bet for charity. whole bet goes to b-a donation address
mike_c: hm, ok, i'll make a small wager. i'm not super-confident, but i think i've got it.
asciilifeform: there was to be an announcement ?
mircea_popescu: pure and simple, at some point in whatever, 1995, some derp with a blog/forum/platform came up with the idea of BANNING
mircea_popescu: worse than anything about c/c++
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you wanna talk about nonsense items and the rotten paradigms they create and perpetuate ? teh banhammer. worse than risc.
asciilifeform: removing the miscreants from the universe of Things That Matter
thestringpuller: Hacker News has always throught they mattered I though...
mike_c: a prediction for later. i want proof that i called it.
asciilifeform: for a turdmeister, wielding the banhammer isn't really satisfying unless he imagines that he's adding heretics to an all-important 'index librorum prohibitorum'
mircea_popescu: i suppose that doesn't detract
mircea_popescu: hacker news seriously thinks they matter somehow ?!