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mats: replacing AT&T
mike_c: they didn't want to make you suspicious so you wouldn't see the people following you.
asciilifeform: re: border searches - interestingly, if your cargo doesn't look like consumer electronics, the inspectors tend to ignore it (granted that it doesn't pattern-match 't3rr0r1s7!!!111')
chetty: and I can't type either :/
asciilifeform: i confess that i can't bring myself to run the thing that eats infinite memory, any more
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i drove the hog to the forest & turned it loose there. found it interesting how the beast had to be shaken out of the trap, wouldn't simply leave on its own
asciilifeform hasn't tested yet
mircea_popescu: he doesn't understand the implementation details. but the situation, he understands just fine.
asciilifeform: in that he doesn't have anything like an accurate internal model of his situation, in the bottle
mircea_popescu: looky here : for as long as you don't aim to use the "shortest program" thing for the purpose of attacking my statement, it is ok.
mircea_popescu: only if they don't include it. once you've included it... you've made it general.
mircea_popescu: it doesn't exist.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu doesn't 'believe in' infinitesimals either, does he
mircea_popescu: yes, it does, provided you don't take it out of there.
mircea_popescu: part 2 presumes part 1 doesn't exist.
mircea_popescu: nope. you use in one phase symbols that don't exist of the other.
mircea_popescu: "what would happen if it didn't happen ?"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this isn't a definition tho.
assbot: 1 results for 'don't keep logs' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=don%27t+keep+logs
mircea_popescu: !s don't keep logs
adlai: b-a.com doesn't log?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform for all the major differences between them and us, it occurs to me there's a very painfully obvious stylistical point : b-a.com doesn't have traffic tracking, github.com doesn't let you search.
asciilifeform: https://github.com/search?q=gnatelim&type=Code << who can find anything there which isn't a) word salad or b) part of gcc ?
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: i don't get paid in benjies
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: hey you're the one who can't spend benjies without setting off alarms.
trinque: asciilifeform: even the fall of the soviet union didn't kill off all the former soviets
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: i don't even work at a place where they ask the question any more
asciilifeform: good thing i don't expect to live to pension age
decimation: http://www.econtalk.org/archives/2015/01/greg_page_on_fo.html > "And there have always been voices to let market signals determine how farmers planted their crops. Don't make people grow cotton just to maintain their base acres in the cotton program, when the world is crying out for more soybeans to feed itself."
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: what country << generally, the 'orc world' where laws aren't actually enforced unless you piss people off
adlai: i'm not sure the constructive uses of friction have any parallel either... beyond maybe as a cost of manipulation (when you don't control the tape)
assbot: Logged on 05-03-2015 22:07:20; danielpbarron: asciilifeform's got a good point though, with such little amounts you aren't going to move the market -- might as well just pretend trade in a txt file
thestringpuller: i can't bring myself to hate on DOS
decimation: wasn't it well known that microsoft stole the bsd IP stack for windows NT?
asciilifeform: microshit wasn't at the table
asciilifeform: decimation: i did not test on any closed-source compiler because they don't exist on the planet i choose to live on
decimation: aren't those all published on the internet?
cazalla: pete_dushenski, pretty sure she can't announce nomination until such and such a date.. part of what made the bitbet bet's that clinton and rand would announce last year an easy win
pete_dushenski: dems might take even longer shot because ya, doesn't much matter.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu repblicans don't exactly 'have alternative', much less plural
asciilifeform: they don't care if they win a war, lose a war, here&there
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: point was that these folks live in a perverse sandbox world where it literally doesn't matter what happens
asciilifeform: don't forget the other obama
pete_dushenski: well, clinton isn't the wtc
asciilifeform: 'respectable' mouthpieces won't touch the subject
pete_dushenski: or is doesn't matter what she claims ?
asciilifeform: clinton, etc. don't expect to lose anything if it gets out
assbot: Logged on 05-03-2015 21:02:54; mike_c: seems there ought to be some reasonable blockchain evidence one way or the other. don't we know the ulbricht address in question?
mircea_popescu: sure, it's "not been 100% proven as a scam". this however isn't the criteria. you lie, you get caught, you're fucked.
assbot: Logged on 05-03-2015 21:02:00; mike_c: i understand the theory :) I don't get the basis.
assbot: Logged on 05-03-2015 21:01:23; mike_c: There isn't much doubt that they took ulbricht's coins, right?
asciilifeform: didn't say it would happen, but the allure is irresistible to them
mircea_popescu: that's a generous problem to solve, seeing how the part that'll ever get solved was never not solved, and the rest isn't happening.
mircea_popescu: your first doesn't lead to your second, so which do i admit, the first or the sercond ?
mircea_popescu: what do you mean "it doesn't work" ? this presumes an alt-universe in which there are alternatives, so things could not work. the world they inhabit knows no such thing, and so... of course it works.
asciilifeform: (the soviets also didn't have microshit 'word', which helps illiterates to play-pretend by turning them into a kind of cyborg meat-assisted shannonizer)
asciilifeform: they didn't have cut&paste
mircea_popescu: tbh, i don't know there exists material more intellectually objectionable than the shit pouring out of the usg.
mircea_popescu: it's you know... kinda important. seeing how they didn't title it "a particularly braindamaged misimplementation of ozone air purifying"
asciilifeform: don't sit and be gassed when fumigating.
asciilifeform: if you aren't a sapper - find another hobby
asciilifeform: except don't have to break it, but expose to light
asciilifeform: adlai: the information isn't just hard to attain, it doesn't exist << the bot is not for use! it's a theoretical construction, like carnot cycle
adlai: it leaks information about the message content, even if you don't get the full thing
cazalla: mircea_popescu, aren't the us lefties the type of lefties behind bitcoin wimminz day anyway
mircea_popescu: ftr, actual lefties aren't offended at nudity.
cazalla: got another retweet for the bits for tits trilema post.. this time by a bitcoin magazine for women.. ah ha, they don't even read, just retweet
adlai: the information isn't just hard to attain, it doesn't exist
punkman: I don't think carnot cycle is a good analogy here
asciilifeform: it's simply an elementary fact that you can't +ev your way 'from rags to riches' unless you know something other folks don't
assbot: Logged on 05-03-2015 21:02:54; mike_c: seems there ought to be some reasonable blockchain evidence one way or the other. don't we know the ulbricht address in question?
asciilifeform: but i don't know who the users are and what motivates them
asciilifeform: no issue, just the fact that i personally don't have any jobs for which coinbr is the right tool
asciilifeform: or that jurov's gizmo doesn't function exactly as printed on crate.
asciilifeform: didn't mean to imply that it was.
asciilifeform: (but i know that it isn't happening with trading, because i'm not an idiot, so i don't trade)
asciilifeform: (unlike 'redditicus' the impossibility doesn't irritate me in the slightest, i have other things in life to play with)
mike_c: infinitesimal, no. but then you're 'perfect knowledge' bot isn't going to make so much anyway
asciilifeform: for folks who can reliably turn x into 2x - they already have mpex accounts, aren't reading this
ben_vulpes: "but trading isn't gamblinggggg!"
danielpbarron: asciilifeform's got a good point though, with such little amounts you aren't going to move the market -- might as well just pretend trade in a txt file ☟︎
asciilifeform: because i don't so much go in for religion
asciilifeform: (i, for instance, wasn't interested at all until invited to write a review, using free demo. which i did. and in the course of said demo, realized that i've not particularly much to -do- with such a thing, on account of having approximately no coin)
felipelalli: jurov: the point is that I don't want to "trade online", I don't have time for that. I just want to buy MPEx or QNTRA for example and let there, sleeping.
felipelalli: danielpbarron: it isn't $ 10, it was just an exaggeration. I guess I have more than $ 100 there.
jurov: and it isn't a big sum anyway
jurov: don't worry, when i finally implement these loans, i'll start nagging
mike_c: it *is* fire and forget. he doesn't liquidate you if you have unpaid fees
BingoBoingo doesn't see why jurov shouldn't get paid for "fire and forget" Could be a one time fee much larger than the monthly fee.
felipelalli: that would be great. But $5 / mo worth it, I thought it was more expensive, don't know why. I'll continue to pay that even without big investments yet.
jurov: who haven't asked me otherwise
thestringpuller: t
felipelalli: well! That's why I am saying I cannot play yet! :) I'm investing hard in my business, I can't invest hard in MPEx assets yet right now.
asciilifeform doesn't have broker either
asciilifeform: it means that the machine isn't fire&forget
danielpbarron: well they aren't paying their electric bills directly in bitcoin.. yet
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: aren't there 3.6k coins found every day that need to find a new home or else a miner can't pay his electricity bill << ^ quite a bill
mike_c: as has been more or less proven in here before, the big miners aren't buying KNC/bitmain/whoever rigs.
mike_c: others say that the big miners don't have to worry about paying electricity bills..
mike_c: that depends on who you ask. some will say that miners mine specifically to get nice clean coins and aren't selling to pay bills.