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mircea_popescu: the part where that matters.
davout: what part of "the title isn't consistent with the bet resolution condition" do you disagree with?
mircea_popescu: howso you think you did make it, is more the question.
mircea_popescu: lol. you ask me how so you've failed to make a case ? by failing to make a case lol.
davout: said the virgin
mircea_popescu: i don't think that ever happened to date.
davout: just saying the resolution condition should be rewritten, which shouldn't be much of an issue since there are only house bets for now
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Would you venture to guess at which post of my blog might pass the Mircea OpenBSD one in the next few months? << something with cats in it. or depending on whaty you mean by pass.
davout: by sending it money, assuming there's some sort of service rolled-out by end 2014, if not it can't really have revenue or be profitable, but in this case the bet title might as well be reworded to "s.mg open for business" or something like that
mircea_popescu: (and if the bet was worded otherwise, this would havbe been true. if you can make a hundred billion dollar donation to berkshire you can currently win the berkshire bet too)
mircea_popescu: how would you make adonation to s.mg ?
davout: ok, so by this logic i just have to make a donation to s.mg to have it have "revenue", and the bet resolves to 'yes'
mircea_popescu: ah that. well, if all else fails the bitbet backstop is that titles are informative, bets are descriptive
davout: the resolution says it has to have "revenue", the title says it has to be "profitable"
mircea_popescu: what's th problem with it ?
mircea_popescu: i gotthe gribble but not there in the log so dunno context yet.
davout: so, what do you think about the wording of the "s.mg profitable in 2014" bet ?
davout: everyone's trying to be as cool as the openssl folks
mircea_popescu: but, like the above, not something the screentanned neckbeard can figure out on his own. (same reason)
mircea_popescu: and you'll be painfully wrong and he'll be lulzily right each time he does it
mircea_popescu: davout indeed. the dirty little open secret here is that if you don't specify it openly, mp will specify it closedly and then beat you over the head every time you deviate
mircea_popescu: obviously it doesn't work that way, but "obviously" doesn't work for your average screentanned neckbeard because obviously depends on social experience
davout: "BingoBoingo: Introduce religion and then bugs become "canon" << they've been trying to do that to bitcoin for a coupla years by now." <<< which is one of the reason specifying the protocol was deemed 'too hard'
mircea_popescu: with the infantile expectation that no one might figure it out, and should someone figure it out they'd necessarily be easy to laugh down, "because lulz"
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: Rabite's purpose is not correctness, security, or anything else understandable.... Rabit is soley for the lulz << lulz is quite understandable, if not machine-understandable. the trick most people claiming to be "only in for the lulz" do is copied directly from that ancient trick of the socialist, "in it only for the soviets" : they oft use it to cover their own (usually intellecual) laziness ☟︎
mircea_popescu: something like that
asciilifeform: (variation on the famous puzzle-joke where mathematicians were given piles of sticks to sort. they puttered around with algorithms - and then janitor comes, and simply stands the sticks up on table, picking them off longest first...)
mircea_popescu: "is this any good ?"
mircea_popescu: "how about this ?
mircea_popescu: "like this ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform my intuition is that the machine couldhave evolving bias. like you know, a virgin girl trying to fuck you.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: things to do << fundamentally we're all making a mistake, of solving salesman problem on von neumann engine. instead,
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: MB of... .bat script << the origin of batshit.
mircea_popescu: no fucking way this doesn't have a good solution
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i actually added this to the list of things to do when im old and retired.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: Introduce religion and then bugs become "canon" << they've been trying to do that to bitcoin for a coupla years by now.
asciilifeform: and the machine's contribution is substantial
asciilifeform: in practice, it is solvable - in the sense that man applies 'muscle grease' and board gets routed. eventually.
mircea_popescu: i still think this should be a solvable problem.
asciilifeform: on top of this, the tracks, vias, components - occupy space
asciilifeform: sometimes N or more paths have to be of the same length (to 0.1 mm or so) and you end with 'meanders' (look at the bottom side of stick of sdram)
asciilifeform: gotta obey various rules (minimal clearances between various kinds of objects; minimized path lengths; avoid vias like the plague in high-frequency signals; etc)
mircea_popescu: so then what in the fuck. you take an infinite lifespan to try out 10k options on a computer ?
asciilifeform: but understand, it isn't enough to merely connect things
mircea_popescu: maybe that's what i'm not getting. how many routes are there on an average board ? thousands ?
mircea_popescu: what's the problem with bruteforcing it ?
mircea_popescu: ok so now... the number of possible connections is finite.
asciilifeform: some proggys even try to place components
asciilifeform: seems to me there should be good autoruters. why not << 'travelling salesman problem'
mircea_popescu: (yet another fundamentally wrong design decision that sits at the core of the us' failure, and can't be fixed)
asciilifeform: also true
mircea_popescu: in a town designed for driving nothing ever works.
asciilifeform: obviously true
mircea_popescu: in a town designed for walking everyone else does fine.
mircea_popescu: but that's because non-cycle.
mircea_popescu: but why would it have to be 50km ?
asciilifeform: picture the folks who ride 50km on bicycle in each direction every day
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the latter part. bycicling
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: gentoo is a source-only distro, where you get to twiddle compiler flags, wait a week for newly-provisioned machine to compile the universe, and - most annoyingly - suffer in the innermost circle of 'dependency hell' where you have to tear up the entire world to build xxxx
mircea_popescu: ok, here's another thing. asciilifeform: there are not (and probably cannot be) 'good' autorouter, but there are plenty of terrible ones. << intuitively it seems to me there should be good autoruters. why not ?
mircea_popescu: you gotta learn to computer on a language everyone despises, that'll keep you from thinking too much of fucking languages.
pankkake: their garbage collector is better each version, but they add more garbage each version
mircea_popescu: this has fundamental causes in the original training of the people involved with the code, which is why you don't want to learn to computer on bullshit fashionable languages.
mircea_popescu: dub: ff crashed because ff << more specifically, because mozilla co STILL can't make a half decent garbage collector, so they constantly leak memory. yes, even version 69 or w/e they're up to by now.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: gentoo is arguably a 'bad life decision' - like the folks who insist on bicycle for commuting << im interested to hear more of the latter part, do tell ?
mircea_popescu: i didn't eat the pork fried on the bible/coran/etc for the record.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: BingoBoingo has an odd penchant for eating byproducts of combusting strange << it's seriously not that healthy.
mircea_popescu: diametric: use truecrypt. hehehehe << lol ok. that was worth it :D
mircea_popescu: basically the 400bn mkt cap company is in its entirety a hundred people trying to maintain a web directory, and we're back to the early 90s over here.
mircea_popescu: someone should put the time into researching the matter, it seems clear to me by now google is entirely manual, they have no algo left at all.
mircea_popescu: and speaking of mossberg : a google on re/code does NOT pop up the wikipedia page on the top 10 results, like for absolutely any other word with a wikipedia entry.
mircea_popescu: (mostly andrei soldatov, a much more interesting fellow than mossberg, imo)
mircea_popescu: benkay the totality of russian personnel residing on foreign soil would be the residentura. the subset doing interesting stuff out of them (such as, not the ambassador's personal homebred imported cocksucker - in most places you have to import women as they don't grow locally babes tall enough, blonde enough, fair skinned enough, lithe enough etc etc etc) would be the... agentura.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: there was talk a few yrs ago (russian) regarding a mesh net built on modern radio hardware in mexican mountains. supposedly destroyed (via agenture methods, no fancy tech) << built by the mexican mafia, was it.
kakobrekla: how stupid is this.
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 630.0, Best ask: 632.07, Bid-ask spread: 2.07000, Last trade: 631.89, 24 hour volume: 7078.38017203, 24 hour low: 627.12, 24 hour high: 654.13, 24 hour vwap: 649.944906232
dub: davout: handome coke sniper is the best
assbot: BitBet - S.MG profitable in 2014 :: 0.06 B (60%) on Yes, 0.04 B (40%) on No | closing in 4 months 4 weeks | weight: 99`823 (100`000 to 1)
kakobrekla: ;;later tell mircea_popescu <davout> kakobrekla: isn't that a little unclear? -> http://bitbet.us/bet/897/s-mg-profitable-in-2014/
dub IPO's the Personal Faraday Cage
dub: should be able to just scan it
chetty: shouldnt be that hard to get a filling replaced and check it out
dub: I'd like to know whats on the chip
chetty: now heres one to feed the fear: http://witscience.org/analysis-of-radio-frequency-identification-rfid-chip-prevalence-in-3-discrete-united-states-populations/
chetty: well he didn't go to HS there, but if he did that might explain a lot
chetty: pankkake, to be fair Obama hasn't been around long enough to ruin the HS kids
Mats_cd03: they meant to do it, i promise
pankkake: :o thanks obama!
chetty: It’s hard to deny just how poorly Chicago’s public schools are performing when it hits you in the face. Such is the case with Paul Robeson High School’s 2014 prom theme: “This is Are Story.”
davout: as in, it can have revenue but still be unprofitable due to expenses
pankkake: "If the most optimistic predictions for am's performance come true, I will be able to cover my losses from virtually every other garbage scheme I bought into, plus some." bitcointalk, still looking at a bailout
assbot: BitBet - S.MG profitable in 2014 :: 0.06 B (60%) on Yes, 0.04 B (40%) on No | closing in 4 months 4 weeks | weight: 99`875 (100`000 to 1)
davout: kakobrekla: isn't that a little unclear? -> http://bitbet.us/bet/897/s-mg-profitable-in-2014/
davout: ;;later tell mircea_popescu liked the hayek commentary a lot!
decimation: for those innocent of the subject, here's a video that gives a taste of the Chinese dominance of the electronics market: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBtRJc-z05k
dub: not happneing, they have acknowledged a problem
fluffypony: dub: I made a BTC payment to NameCheap yesterday
dub: namecheap can't take my coinz
assbot: Why is there Anti-Intellectualism?
mircea_popescu: Africans never discovered nearby islands like the Cape Verde archipelago.