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mircea_popescu: the ~only useful point of the state at this micro level is that it leaks tax money, enough so as to support hopeless research in fields not favoured by industry.
mircea_popescu: this is an immense chasm, which will not see productive results in your lifetime. consequently the only options open to you are to either find something else to do ; or else go into welfare.
mircea_popescu: mkay. here's the problem : on one hand there's lieberman's very stern "forbidden to have course on nonsense" ; on the other hand people can't fucking help it that they're clueless on topics, and the sort of lulzy doodle nonsense sprouted by boetke is not HIS fault. that's, truthfully, how little we know of genetics.
mircea_popescu: anyway. are you pursuing a microbiology phd or something kanzure ?
mircea_popescu: "when all the 108 men in the 40 mile line were blond, the message came that the battle was won ; but later when two of them went to eat and were replaced by guys with green eyes, the message came through that lord monmouth's daugther ran off with the circus."
mircea_popescu: consider a simple element of historical warfare, that the us army could not reproduce today : arrow messaging. now, what is the effect of forest guard locus #48 on the court getting news of battle at hartford ? toggle it to what, taller man ?
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, here asciilifeform i got one for you : drujba in romanian ? chainsaw. and because there was that whole 80s "ask a girl for her friendship" thingee, ... "he offered me his chainsaw".
☟︎ mircea_popescu: what OTHER fucking reason than feeling like it can there be!
mircea_popescu: kanzure you think ? and pray tell what's satan to pay you so that you love him ?
mircea_popescu: come to think of it, perhaps the best conversational definition for discipline would be "the opposite of WSOD".
mircea_popescu: you just happened to be there when it did, that's all.
mircea_popescu: then you misuse the term. how could sweat correlate weakly with effort, it's like saying gasoline consumption correlates weakly with distance travelled.
mircea_popescu: this machine eats the same 200 W any mouthbreather's windows eats. just, mine isn't putting any of that towards animated paper clips.
mircea_popescu: they were fucking sweatting bullets, if that's not effort what is.
mircea_popescu: (spoiler : the idiots were trying to push the hammer. that's not how you tear down walls.)
mircea_popescu: the pro got there, tore it all down without breaking a sweat.
mircea_popescu: do you know how much effort they poured into it ? hours later, the wall was undented.
mircea_popescu: anyway. he'd hire student kids to do work for him. i once watched a dozen of them, try to demolish a wall with a 60kg hammer.
mircea_popescu: kanzure when i was a kid, i had a friend. he built this shambling abomination of a bar, each layer a different style, floor after floor.
mircea_popescu: "memory", what's that. he got a bit of memory out of his own body through structuring the environment.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i subscribe, not a bad angle. in fact, possibly best available atm.
mircea_popescu: in any case ; i am notorious for a very poor memory, including complete inability to remember say actresses names.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: we never had a good outing of this theme ; but it is my (probably heretical) notion that memory size dun really enter into it.
mircea_popescu: or am i expected to think "designer" isn't to be interpreted to mean i can want a smart baby ? after all i can buy designer bags, of whichever kind, the only bags i can't buy being bags that ARE ANY GOOD. something like that ?
mircea_popescu: the look on the 2nd one, you know, total precious cat "fuck, they're doing the people magic bullshit again"
mircea_popescu: i am not trying to effectuate any outcomes whatsoever.
mircea_popescu: but the effort is in the sense of cleanning, not in the sense of pushing.
mircea_popescu: kanzure no. i keep slavegirls, whom i produce out of free ranged girls through beatings and generally speaking torture.
mircea_popescu: you know, dude was a better napoleon in the sense the term's usually used. he certainly didn'\t fucking forget about a whole army corps etc.
mircea_popescu: damn. am i the only khalid al-walid fan out there ? is this possible ?
mircea_popescu: there isn't a "for every million clay pots you get another one of the 17 symmetries". the right guys need twenty pots to find all of them. the polynesians or the africans will NEVER find them like they never found fucking madagascar.
mircea_popescu: anyway. the other good illustration re effort/discipline for our needs here is of course the observation re possible symmetries, and how the subhuman cultures never actually discovered all of them. why noit ? they had decorative arts too, effort went in...
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform thanks for the link, it was in there happily.
mircea_popescu: kanzure say !!up to deedbot in private then !!v to verify the string it gives you
mircea_popescu: !!v 1B741BE33650B2139657BAFB37C451AC308F32FA71ED8B6062DAF4EB38DCEBE5
mircea_popescu: you recall, "where's the south african rembrandts, same size as flanders"
mircea_popescu: kanzure you also read the famous piece with the "Where's the rembrandts" i take it ?
mircea_popescu: oh, oh, with the independent girlfriends and the ai thing ? and the something basilisk mega-pantsuit ?
mircea_popescu: o ? is this the guy who brave brave brave sir robert put out a fanfic challenge, then trilema blew a hole in his head and he "never heard of it" a la buffett ?
mircea_popescu: discipline is a narrower set than effort, you understand. it seems "hard" ie efortful, especially for the noob. but it is not that hard once you internalize it. the effort-seeker howevere ends up mired in your sort of activity, "what's the most mentally painful activity, that'll be REALLY putting in some effort".
mircea_popescu: mno. my model is that people who are disciplined enough to behave rigurously will discover things at the rate at which this happens.
mircea_popescu: and yes there's some relation between discipline as a societal construct, and politics. but this is complicated and poorly understood.
mircea_popescu: it changes with intellectual ~discipline~. thisis not the same thing as effort.
mircea_popescu: kanzure my survey of the online world mostly happens in the sense intel prepares summaries which i sometimes read, but generally looking for a laugh.
mircea_popescu: anyway, there's no dislike here. just the factual matter.
mircea_popescu: (i have a very deep dislike for modern derps putting their name on things, though.)
mircea_popescu: science, research, technology are not political outputs. they are political inputs.
mircea_popescu: kanzure the idea is that there's entirely no relation between shoulding and tech building. whether it should or shouldn't, it'll go at the same rate.
mircea_popescu: the "We did it reddit" dork got pounded saturday, did you watch the fight ?
mircea_popescu: in other words : you don't have the technology to even dare hope you may create one monster per million tries. what designer babies ?
mircea_popescu: the thing where getting a "designer baby" be 99.9999% identical to an actual baby makes it less tolerable than a 99% or 80% similar result ; and not a little less tolerable, EXTREMELY intolerable.
mircea_popescu: well so if you're familiar why don't you answer when asked.