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mircea_popescu: in other news, femsupremacy. http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6jtoa3cyw1r0gngfo1_500.gif

cazalla: https://www.reddit.com/r/ChillingEffects/comments/3gw9g1/20150813_ip_blocks/

BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> (speaking of which - there's a recent, very very bad french movie which nevertheless offers perhaps the best image of that girl. << NIkita

BingoBoingo: <Adlai> ascii_field: baseball isn't the american sport, it's the american story. or something << Pastime

BingoBoingo: <ascii_field> (never, oddly enough, baseball. which i grew up thinking of as ~the~ american sport) << Baseball fell out of favor with the public around the same time as Boxing and Handegg was in a lucky position to replace both. "Civilized" alternative to boxing "Exciting" alternative to baseball "Opportunity" for the oppressed youths.

BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> (d'artagnan's origin is not coincidental, and the fact superman's not from the ozarks does not reflect too well on either the profundity or the perspectives of that culture) << Of Course. He is from Little Egypt, his statue is in Metropolis, Illinois.

mircea_popescu: http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzl9h5fSrg1r53acko1_400.gif << building code testing.

assbot: Logged on 14-08-2015 20:10:36; assbot: Logged on 12-06-2015 21:45:26; ascii_field: http://www.erikyyy.de/tempest << the classic one

assbot: Logged on 12-06-2015 21:45:26; ascii_field: http://www.erikyyy.de/tempest << the classic one ☟︎

asciilifeform: !up ascii_field

shinohai: http://up0.xhcdn.com/000/027/090/731_1000.jpg

phf: mircea_popescu: so what changed in the 19th century is that the beatings stopped?

mircea_popescu: in other news, http://33.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5mdeyblq41qcyaeko1_400.gif

phf: mircea_popescu: i don't have a defendable position, i'm not sure i fully understand your "degenerate kids" comment, because it seems like a huge write off.

mircea_popescu: ascii_field recall the "fake islands" medieval maps included for the purpose ?

asciilifeform: !up ascii_field

mircea_popescu: <ascii_field> expected america to look like 1940s nyc << the people who worshipped nicky mantle or w/e are long dead you know.

trinque: ascii_field: got people of walmart instead!

Adlai: ascii_field: baseball isn't the american sport, it's the american story. or something

gernika: ascii_field so do something like bitcoind dumpblock i | bitcoind -datadir=somewhereelse eatblock i?

mircea_popescu: ascii_field your current understanding is strictly correct.

ascii_field: mircea_popescu: americanism. it is customary to describe anything political in terms used in the american football, e.g., 'playbook', 'gameplan', 'huddle'

mircea_popescu: would you like some double pump mocha, ascii_field ?

asciilifeform: !up ascii_field

jurov: "Disable support for loading LC_CTYPE locales other than UTF-8."

ascii_field: mircea_popescu: it is interesting, and related, to inquire into the etymology of english word 'churl'

mircea_popescu: ascii_field speaking of which - weirdness like "colectivisation" etc didn't touch most of high transylvania. simply because teh people didn't do it. because wut. even some horses survived.

mircea_popescu: yes. import resitance_of_medium.h

ascii_field: mircea_popescu makes it sound almost chinese

mircea_popescu: ascii_field transylvania has the not-to-be-neglected advantage of two millenia of continual habitation. stuff like soviets barely register if at all.

mircea_popescu: !up ascii_field

chetty: http://hca.gilead.org.il/girl_who.html // this was my childhood nightmare

mircea_popescu: ascii_field i dun have the patience for animated full length features. but i did like the ... shit, what was it called. the one where the guy breaks in and murders a buncha women. one of them confronts him, in perhaps the best scene of japanese cinema

ascii_field: i bet mircea_popescu would love 'grave of the fireflies'

mircea_popescu: https://d38ls2kcjnhfdj.cloudfront.net/dfdb2088-1f04-4c5c-b9cc-3d492e289dba_d.jpg << yours is better. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Agarbiceanu_Cluj.JPG

ascii_field: sop, as mircea_popescu pointed out once, in east europe

ascii_field: chetty, mircea_popescu: story reminiscent of turgenev's Муму

chetty: mike_c: goddamn mircea, that was depressing// I thought it was heroic

asciilifeform: !up ascii_field

punkman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=7IFIQk-8m0c#t=768 apparently the tourists aren't enjoying the boatloads of arabs arriving next to their resorts

punkman: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landless_Workers%27_Movement

wilbns: https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/3gsj4v/how_strong_was_the_tianjin_explosion/

shinohai: https://np.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3gutfp/if_youre_not_running_a_node_youre_not_really/

cazalla: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0e5_1439474009 happy chinese new year!

assbot: Logged on 14-08-2015 00:32:27; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-08-2015#1237131 << im starting to suspect a "alf's guide to coreboot" full doc would be more valuable than anything on cryptome currently and really a great addition to loper-os. provided it actually is complete.

assbot: Logged on 13-08-2015 19:20:56; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-08-2015#1237000 << how's this different from being affraid of being gay ?

ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> senator hurrdurr (who really seems an exact mirror image of ron paul in left colorings) is certainly out of the question, but omfg don't tell me trump takes over and does a postmodern rendition of reagan << it is going to be glorious

ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: solidly over six?

trinque: ben_vulpes: how does a guy know about editable divs and not disallowing wrap?

trinque: ben_vulpes: yeah can come say hi whenever

trinque: mircea_popescu: yes, felt that story presents a nice bottom-bound on the misery-ometer

ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: future is here

trinque: ben_vulpes: read that story about the old woman and miserable horse; it'll make ya feel better

ben_vulpes: sorry pete_dusheshenski, no tech support available this week

BingoBoingo: Oh the reddardation https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3gxa2f/the_blocksize_debate_is_due_to_limited_upload/

gribble: Aristophanes, Frogs, line 225: <http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Aristoph.%20Frogs%20230>; Word of the day – Brekekekex (Βρεκεκέξ) | Omniglot blog: <http://www.omniglot.com/blog/?p=280>; koax koax brekekekex (finaly) - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMhcdbST_YI>

asciilifeform: like those comment sp4mz0rz on mircea_popescu's site

asciilifeform: in other news, filipinos hard at wurk! >> https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3gutfp/if_youre_not_running_a_node_youre_not_really/

gernika: mod6 I applied asciilifeform_maxint_locks_corrected.patch

mod6: do you have the maxint_locks_corrected patch applied?

assbot: Logged on 14-08-2015 00:46:39; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-08-2015#1237238 << it is particularly NOT possible to kill memory corruption in C.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ... upside of a sane approach is never "where it gets you", but always "where it didn't take you" << aha. precisely this.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'd be delighted to learn how 2 is solved. but the full story can wait for 3 if you like

assbot: Logged on 14-08-2015 00:36:16; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-08-2015#1237165 << i have no problem with s.nsa offering a catalog of 0days for sale in bitcoin. write it up.

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-08-2015#1237481 << this is more difficult than mircea_popescu might appreciate. for one thing, i do hardware, where merely the ~fact of~ a usable hole existing is half the secret - once you say, credibly, folks know precisely where to look; the other half of it is that i am in the wot neither of folks buying nor of folks brokering; and the third 'half' is that any attempt at this will hav ☝︎☟︎

asciilifeform: http://www.thingaweak.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/switches_closeup.jpg

asciilifeform: re: earlier thread: http://www.coreboot.org/Supported_Motherboards#Motherboards_supported_in_coreboot

assbot: Logged on 14-08-2015 00:53:25; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-08-2015#1237249 << iirc, the idea wasn';t that it'll keep anyone out. it was that it'll keep the invaders IN long enough, especially if loaded with booty, to make the whole thing impracticable.

assbot: Logged on 13-08-2015 18:36:18; mats: anyway, as phf says, it is of course possible to kill certain classes of vulns in C, be it memory mgmt to fix corruption, strncpy and the _s functions from MS for known, fixed size destinations, properly strict coding conventions, reducing attack surface with sandboxing e.g. NaCl, and full SFI/CFI

assbot: Logged on 13-08-2015 15:56:51; asciilifeform: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/08/04/intel_pays_double_for_women_and_ethnic_minorities << mega-l0l

assbot: Logged on 13-08-2015 14:46:10; funkenstein_: The man has a great point, but, where did this thing start that humans are not animals, and in what crib do I find it to strangle it?

mircea_popescu: overheard in #eulora : <diana_coman> the middle road is shit

asciilifeform: (mircea_popescu's eternal question re: why do we have imbeciles programming computers is a valid but separate question)

asciilifeform: call to the new operator will truncate that value down to fit into a 32-bit integer, thus allocating an undersized buffer. Subsequently, chunk_size worth of data is read into this undersized buffer. Even if the value is truncated to 32-bits, the function will still read 0xFFFFFFFF bytes into the buffer, leading to a heap overflow...'

asciilifeform: 'For example, if a malicious MP4 is crafted with a chunk_size of 0x1ffffffff (notice this is larger than a 32-bit value) the faulty overflow check will be bypassed because chunk_size > SIZE_MAX. Next, chunk_size is added to size. If size is any value greater than 0, an integer overflow will occur. If, for instance, size is 1, the addition will result in a value of 0x200000000, which is larger than a 32-bit value. The following

phf: mircea_popescu: i see the parallels, yeah i was insulated from that sort of mentality, but i was also insulated from the stupid and the lazy

asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> well, specifically what triggered me was the proposition that "this man that is doing a bad job would do a better job weith better tools" << now, if it were simply a matter of strength and weakness, one could argue that 'more folks could dig well with bulldozer than with spade'

phf: mircea_popescu: my russian education was downright abusive by u.s. standards. or you're talking eton style mandatory beatings?

asciilifeform: ag3nt_zer0: it matters to cn only in the sense that your body killing a particular bacterium you ate last night matters to you.

mircea_popescu: ag3nt_zer0 you have to understand that this entire "market" thing is more of a DoS thing than a local thing. there isn't a substantial similarity between ukraina and china that makes both appear in the press you read as "so and so square".

phf: mircea_popescu: yeah, i've not reevaluated it since the last time i thought it, which was 2005 or so

asciilifeform: ag3nt_zer0: srsly.

asciilifeform: ag3nt_zer0: learn ru or mandarin

mircea_popescu: https://www.reddit.com/r/ethtrader/comments/3gus46/did_anyone_take_mircea_popescus_offer_hed_need/ << reddit has circlejerk. somehow it fails to read "oh shit, if only we had any money then. or now" and isntead reads "oh how mp is bad mkay"

phf: in the sql example, it's sql_execute('select * from ' + sql_var_sanitize(variable)). naturally people keep forgetting the sql_var_sanitize

phf: e.g. sql_execute takes character arrays. if your sql_execute took ASTs instead, well, in that case you can't violate the assumptions of the abstraction

mats: i didn't say that. but _the cost of attack can still be substantially increased_

mats: anyway, as phf says, it is of course possible to kill certain classes of vulns in C, be it memory mgmt to fix corruption, strncpy and the _s functions from MS for known, fixed size destinations, properly strict coding conventions, reducing attack surface with sandboxing e.g. NaCl, and full SFI/CFI ☟︎

phf: add OP_SIGVERIFY as an intel instruction :)

phf: a deployment strategy in that case could be qemu-x86 -hda bitcoind.img -hdb /dev/blockchain_drive

assbot: Logged on 13-08-2015 14:56:38; funkenstein_: perhaps in some way similar to simply passing around a massive virtual machine file (yes I'm fishing for a correction on this)

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-08-2015#1237091 << if you recall, this was my original (~6 mo. ago) suggestion for how to do development on therealbitcoin. but a number of folks (chiefly mircea_popescu) did not like it. for entirely logical reasons ☝︎

assbot: Logged on 13-08-2015 14:44:54; pete_dushenski: shinohai: wonder of wonder, miracle of miracles, i took rotor by the hand, turned him around and - miracle of miracles - led him to the promised land !

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-08-2015#1237071 << congrats pete_dushenski ! ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/08/04/intel_pays_double_for_women_and_ethnic_minorities << mega-l0l ☟︎

asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: the typical application for smm is items like the screen brightness keys found on laptops

assbot: Logged on 13-08-2015 15:26:25; pete_dushenski: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/08/11/memory_hole_roots_intel_processors/ << somehow hasn't made it in here yet

pete_dushenski: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/08/11/memory_hole_roots_intel_processors/ << somehow hasn't made it in here yet ☟︎