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BingoBoingo:
<mircea_popescu> what was that again ?
<< That time my personal blog was featured on /. thrice with no resistance.
BingoBoingo:
<mircea_popescu> decimation Luke-Jr generally pretends that things he doesn't like don't actually exist. this is the case in pretty much every line he utters, crafted to support his particular mental issues.
<< Things like Popes
ben_vulpes:
<mircea_popescu> [] i don't know anyone that seriously thinks they have a model on it
<< severely lacking in the whole conversation
mircea_popescu:
<undata> this social media thing I think has created the notion that identity is a matter of self-definition
<< has little to do with social media tho. it's more an outgrowth of the "civil rights" movement.
BingoBoingo:
<pete_dushenski> try spending your days on newspaper websites reading about "terrorism" and "celerities" and see if your noodle doesn't turn to mush
<< Helps if you pickle it with ETOH aforehand for preservation.
mircea_popescu:
<BingoBoingo> asciilifeform [..]
<< You have an absurdly gross overestimation of the standards for Boyscout badges
<< i dunno dude, i never got the "all girlscout nookies" one.
BingoBoingo: Find out about three career opportunities in the computer industry. Pick one and find out the education, training, and experience required for this profession. Discuss this with your counselor, and explain why this profession might interest you. Report what you learn to your counselor.
<< Doing this one now I'd pick curmudeon as a profession, and ask why writing OS is not a requirement.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: and 'write an os', per the barest technical definition, is not high science; it's a standard 'boy scout badge' in school.
<< You have an absurdly gross overestimation of the standards for Boyscout badges.
BingoBoingo:
<asciilifeform> to folks unacquainted with basic physics, mechanization gives a convincing illusion of 'phree stuff 4ever'
<< Until you have to get Santino ready for an open casket funeral after catching every bullet at the tollboth.
mircea_popescu: What are more safe alternatives in U.S. to fix our problem? (We can't afford losing our last $50)
<< this.
mircea_popescu: "
<gavinandresen> My point is the point of Bitcoin is I can make a transaction to anybody in the world"
<< uhh.... if this is the point of bitcoin then bitcoin has at all points been so far offpoint it's a wonder it's still here.
mircea_popescu: davout: i'm more of classical music and jazz guy
<< i knew there was a reason i liked you!
mircea_popescu: davout: justusranvier: in your article you shouldn't be reasoning on the cost of including a transaction in a block as (cost of one block / number of transactions) but you should reason on the marginal cost of adding a transaction to an already existing block that i'm currently mining
<< quite
mircea_popescu: davout: MAH HARICUT IS SIKRIT BZNS
<< honestly i had no idea it's a haircut. i had imagined it's simply whatever's left once the neighbours are done cutting their hedges.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes: contains "fix issue" buttons
<< lol this sounds like early chinese factory automation
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes: i can't spot *every* scam
<< o wow, do we get the sad, blood splattered, tear imbibed story of it ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: Pierre_Rochard: there is nothing, and good reason to think there cannot be, anything which even rises to the level of an ersatz.
<< in economics, substitute is a functional substitute not a logical substitute. in this sense, your feet are a substitute for a train.
mircea_popescu: Pierre_Rochard: not to mention, the transaction fee _today_ is $0.02. Where is every man woman and child? Why are they not taking advantage of this amazing opportunity??
<< because, the argument goes, they're so farsighted into the future, this children of the paycheck loan, these african seasonal hunters, that the POTENTIAL of it costing maybe more tomorrow perhaps is inhibiting them.
BingoBoingo: "The arrest of Mr. Farrell is proof that federal law enforcement continues its efforts to root out those who subvert the Internet to set up black markets for illegal goods."
<< STFU
mircea_popescu: I don’t want the developers setting it every two months, but I dont’ see a way to make fee revenue per block drive it (because the real-world bitcoin exchange rate is so variable)
<< this is particularly fucking stupid
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: i noticed when i was coding that keyservers tend to go down a lot
<< this is true, and has been for a while. pgp keyservers like the weakest link in the assets system currently.
mircea_popescu: mike_c: i suppose his point is along the lines of "mpex controls the coins it is holding, but account holders own them".
<< quite a weak point.
gribble: nefario was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 years, 17 weeks, 0 days, 2 hours, 14 minutes, and 51 seconds ago:
<nefario> Those assets are not listed or traded anymore
ben_vulpes: Naphex: distracting
<< lol. not pandering, do you mean?
ben_vulpes:
<BingoBoingo> thestringpuller: Well ESPN says they paid ESPN in BTC
<< i thought it was a promise to pay in btc, the paper for which ESPN liquidated immediately
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: pity conformal isn't better known.
<< how so?
<< they did all sorts of things for "the community" to be able to use their own stuff, which the community isn't doing because... well i guess more because lazy and stupid, but hey.
BingoBoingo:
<mircea_popescu> asciilifeform the 2nd is particularly pernicious because of the "good enough" approach. "what do you mean bitcoin transactions can't be used to identify anything ? here's a list of derps we know for a fact, they're 50% of the blockchain spam"
<< Reasons to never use a public Electrum server for people wondering about "Lite" wallets.
mircea_popescu: jurov: now i have 40/40 , but back when i had 10mbit uplink, bitcoind sometimes saturated it
<< this is an universal experience.
mircea_popescu: felipelalli: but I also found too aggressive the numbers of Gavin. And why do you guys hate Gavin?
<< you will benefit from reading the logs, also googling "site:trilema.com gavin" might help.
mircea_popescu: chetty:
<<< reading various stuffs here on the great blockchain 'fix', I wonder whatever happened to "If it ain't broke, don't fix it!"
<<< "everyone wants to be a developer" happened. and "everyone should get what they want" also happened.
devthedev: BingoBoingo: What is this about the head of 'Muricas other socialist party opening session with an Islamic prayer?
<< It makes my stomach turn
mircea_popescu: assbot: The-Feminist-Software-Foundation/ToleranUX
<< lmao this shit better be parodic.
mircea_popescu: assbot: Under Mark Karpeles bitcoin did 3,000,000%. Under VC capital, merchant adoption, bitcoin bowl it did -80%. : Bitcoin
<< that post has a core of point in it. if it weren't wrapped in redditard retardation / karpeles bs, it'd almost be worth making.
mircea_popescu: nubbins`: lifted from deviant art and shutterstock
<< are the da starving artists going to get a cut of the 14k ?
mircea_popescu: punkman: their demos are stupid though
<< yeah they had no idea how to sell that thing.
mircea_popescu: punkman: "For one thing, doctors were upset because Semmelweis' hypothesis
<< yup that's a recurring topic here.
ben_vulpes:
<ben_vulpes> my new title is going to be "systems and app store submission engineer"
<< asciilifeform
Pierre_Rochard: gavinandresen is clearly unfamiliar with the pricing model of every luxury good ever.
< this
ben_vulpes:
<gavinandresen> asciilifeform: I don’t want to rescue anybody, I want as many people as possible to Get the Bitcoin Religion! Can I have an AMEN?
<< good fucking god
gavinandresen: asciilifeform: I’ll use
<just joking> tags next time
Pierre_Rochard: increase it at the margin (say 20%)
< increase the block size limit
davout: gavinandresen: “patches welcome"
<<< i don't use your wallet tbh
davout: gavinandresen: "oh, the IBLT stuff? yes, that’d make propagation O(1)"
<<< so with that, there's no network bottleneck anymore, at least no real incentive for miners to keep blocks small, right?
ben_vulpes:
<gavinandresen> Pierre_Rochard: I believe the goal should be to maximize the value of Bitcoin for everybody
<< you're fired.
ben_vulpes:
<mircea_popescu> [] nah, writing everything in c++ is dumb.
<< write it in every language, discover interesting bugs.
davout: gavinandresen: "okey dokey, then we might not have much to talk about if you want to stick with OpenSSL bugs that were included in the protocol by mistake."
<<< actually i distinctly remember mike hearn telling me how that particular bug was part of the protocol and how it somehow justified not putting any effort towards actually specifying anything, in a spec, not in code
felipelalli: gavinandresen: theymos said:
<< (...) Make the change now, but have it take place at a particular date or block number 2 years in the future. Then when the change actually happens, everyone will already be updated because almost no one uses 2-year-old software. Yes, 2 years is a long time, but we'll survive. >> is that possible and why it is a good or bad idea?
mike_c: hmm.. "
<sipa> justanotheruser: but control of coins != ownership of coins"
davout: "if you want to come in #bitcoin-assets and argue a bit your proposal, a bunch of folks would be interested"
<<< let's see how that goes
mircea_popescu: "
<gavinandresen> Ah— so you’re saying we should decrease the 1MB limit, so there are higher fees and miners make more money?"
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: regarding paygrade
<< have you ever seen Inside Man?
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: that coupled with the "oh you accept bitcoin? let me shower you with undeserved business" mentality
<< tends to be what burns Blazedout419
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu> apparently they'll want to change bitcoin to gavincoin 1:1 later on, but they don't want to change it at a 25% discount today.
<< should better offer it at 25% over, otherwise they are admitting their coin has the lower value
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: nah, writing everthing in c++ is dumb.
<< wasn't bitcoin-qt 0.1 in Visual C++? that was even worse
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: pity conformal isn't better known.
<< how so? ben_vulpes has referenced them a lot over the past two years. they are making me want to learn Go.
nubbins` wanders over to kako's console and types /ignore
<random nick>
chetty:
<<< reading various stuffs here on the great blockchain 'fix', I wonder whatever happened to "If it ain't broke, don't fix it!"
chetty:
<BingoBoingo> Vexual: asciilifeform linked it a while back. basically able people must wear handicaps to make everyone equal.//only other solution is just kill all the handicaps
ben_vulpes:
<Luke-Jr> [] not sure why this patch is reducing set_lg_max..
<< lol i love the stream of consciousness as Luke-Jr reads through source
ben_vulpes:
<asciilifeform> any reason to doubt that the usg exchanges and other scum are 'on board' (for what that's worth) ?
<< it is going to be *fascinating* to see how coinbase et. al are going to handle this
ben_vulpes:
<mircea_popescu> davout here's the story : big bombing here in the 70s, at the jewish center. dozens of victims.
<< was this a proxy attack on israel?
Pierre_Rochard: “errything fine up there ?”
<- debatable, I’ve been studying tax accounting, which can be deleterious to the mind
mircea_popescu: Luke-Jr Name a single Bitcoin expert who thinks 1 MB blocks will be sufficient forever?
<< 1mb blocks MAY be sufficient forever.