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mircea_popescu: <artifexd> I now understand mp's desire to limit []bot's reports in here to bets >= 1BTC. There have been a lot of bets lately. It would have made for a lot of noise in here. << :p
thestringpuller: didn't know though there'd be a trilema post
thestringpuller: benkay: thx found it
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: what happened to the MPOE may statement?
mthreat: so when i say neighbors, I mean _all_ the neighbors
mthreat: i hear the neighbors make noise when they score
mthreat watching it too
bitcoinpete: at the half
bitcoinpete: since they'll never get that $10m worth of coins, they gotta settle for dat ausbuck
nubbins`: think of the respect that kind of coin would buy you
nubbins`: do that 9 more times and you've got $10mn
bitcoinpete: thankfully, they made $1.6m from the share sale
bitcoinpete: digitalbtc lost $649k in the last 9 months. win!
kakobrekla: now i have a problem. how do i describe a thing that actually is biggest, first, best and so on.
bitcoinpete: "Legal requirements for the listing will make digitalBTC “the most transparent bitcoin company around”, according to a spokesperson." << and the biggest! fastest!
benkay: of course asciilifeform will tell me that someone came up with the notion in the fifties and everyone forgot all about it
bitcoinpete: "DigitalBTC, which began as a mining operation but also engages in bitcoin trading and is developing retail and consumer applications, debuted on the Australian Securities Exchange (ASX) this morning as Digital CC Limited (trading as digitalBTC) (ASX code: DCC)."
bitcoinpete: so the australian securities exchange has completely lost its marbles
benkay: Mats_cd03: consider a program that's essentially a function of a time series of events
benkay: Mats_cd03: it's a mathematical formalism for talking about systems that evolve over time in response to inputs.
bitcoinpete: it's the smouldering rage of thousands of broke doods who can't download and backup multibit
bitcoinpete: lol those comments… "fuck you fatass!"
nubbins`: it's the smouldering rage of thousands of broke nerds
nubbins`: that's not actually the sun off in the distance
assbot: Very nice sunset on Tokyo today http://t.co/3ygEIVkJwM
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gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user thestringpuller to user magicaltux: Level 1: 0, Level 2: -3 via 5 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=thestringpuller&dest=magicaltux | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=magicaltux | Rated since: Mon Dec 20 13:21:21 2010
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[]bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to drop under $400 before August" http://bitbet.us/bet/944/ Odds: 22(Y):78(N) by coin, 22(Y):78(N) by weight. Total bet: 4.58833639 BTC. Current weight: 99,270.
bitcoinpete: nubbins`: eh i must've missed that in the logs… what's the story?
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user bitcoinpete to user magicaltux: Level 1: 0, Level 2: -3 via 4 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=bitcoinpete&dest=magicaltux | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=magicaltux | Rated since: Mon Dec 20 13:21:21 2010
nubbins`: i meant the magical type of tux
nubbins`: dat tux
Mats_cd03: is this some web4.0
Mats_cd03: no but parts of the jsonrpc code is written
benkay: if only there were a reactive ncurses thing
punkman: using this Urwid library, it's nice but not nice enough
punkman: I made my first curses app today
benkay: ui in general is 10x more annoying than other things
artifexd: Yeah. They don't happen often enough to consolidate, yet.
benkay: in total, I was thinking.
artifexd: benkay: Bets within a certain period of time or in total?
[]bot: Bet placed: 1.96067479 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to drop under $400 before August" http://bitbet.us/bet/944/ Odds: 30(Y):70(N) by coin, 30(Y):70(N) by weight. Total bet: 3.43833639 BTC. Current weight: 99,389.
benkay: considered reporting when a bet total ratchets past integer btc at stake? in the same vein as the ticker bots accumulating trades under 1B
artifexd: I now understand mp's desire to limit []bot's reports in here to bets >= 1BTC. There have been a lot of bets lately. It would have made for a lot of noise in here.
benkay: Mats_cd03: and you were recently giving me a hard time about crypto. mhmmmmmmmm.
kakobrekla: dunno maybe he is 13 too.
Apocalyptic: hard to tell
kakobrekla: is that supposed to be sarcastic?
benkay: <kakobrekla> <benkay> talk to kakobrekla it's his ruleset < only if you are in wot and authed but dont reach the levels. < grand refinement
benkay: ;;later tell vexual yes that's interesting zone right there hmu
gribble: Accounting for the nonzero asset corporation. The MPEx standard ...: <http://trilema.com/accounting-for-the-nonzero-asset-corporation-the-mpex-standard>; BitBet, May 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/2014/bitbet-may-2014-statement/>; The list of discontinued assets on MPEx pe Trilema - Un blog de ...: <http://trilema.com/the-list-of- (1 more message)
thestringpuller: ;;google site:trilema.com the zero asset corporation
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: is there a zero asset corporstion blog post?
chetty: "Some babies (aka fetuses) get their brains sucked out at birth. Others (aka Fulbights) get their brains sucked out at Berkely." (anonymous)
chetty: MP makes me sad, I can see the truth of much but it is hard to swallow happily, and that I guess is what drives the libs in the end. Truth hurts
asciilifeform: until he pissed away the realm
mircea_popescu: they had the same of nicholas
asciilifeform: ^ translation: 'this is comrade stalin. you must know because of whom you still live.'
[]bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin to drop under $400 before August" http://bitbet.us/bet/944/ Odds: 93(Y):7(N) by coin, 93(Y):7(N) by weight. Total bet: 1.1 BTC. Current weight: 99,929.
asciilifeform: civilized man has to overcome his OD on coke, or reddit, or whatever, to make the jump.
mircea_popescu: one does not bother to call another barbar unless the another said something that really scared our one.
mircea_popescu: as is generally the case.
asciilifeform: and the 'civilized man' - not so much.
mircea_popescu: i vote for "other reason" : because it's fucking dumb, that's why.
asciilifeform: (amalrik, 'Will the Soviet Union Survive 1984')
asciilifeform: 'Whether because of its historical traditions or for some other reason, the idea of self-government, of equality before the law and of personal freedom--and the responsibility that goes with these--are almost completely incomprehensible to the Russian people...To the majority of the people the very word 'freedom' is synonymous with 'disorder' or the opportunity to indulge with impunity in some kind of antisocial
asciilifeform: to the folks who didn't get dinged, he stood for... order. the empire having its shit together in some form. etc
asciilifeform: phun phact. russian truck drivers had portraits of stalin in their windshields (facing out.) possibly even now. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: and then, kinda is constantly scared by and trying to escape his own creations
mircea_popescu: somehow ends up in the laboratory of power, obviously he pushes that ftizic trotsky aside. why not ?
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asciilifeform: ;;google "great chiefs of the iron age"
mircea_popescu: all extant ones that i know of are written by dumbstruck idiots who think the man was somehow grand
asciilifeform: 'Great Chiefs of the Iron Age'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform someone needs to write an actual biography of stalin sometime.
mircea_popescu: in general, in pursuit of an idea the bone gets picked rather closely of meat.
chetty: absolutely, the meatgrinder is a bureaucracy like any other, and they don't die easy
asciilifeform: by butchering the staff
asciilifeform: incidentally, stalin's '30s purges are almost universally misinterpreted. he was trying to close down the meatgrinder.
asciilifeform: problem, as seen in soviet example, is that you eventually run out of 'class enemies' and the meat grinder is still standing, well-oiled. then you have korolev doing time
chetty: no, but I ain't volunteering to march off to zoolag either
mircea_popescu: chetty well what, you expect to make omlette without breaking out some soviets ?
chetty: <mircea_popescu> which is really not hard to do, take everyone that was involved in any manner in the government of an european or north american country past 1940/uhg
mircea_popescu: problem is, even if you put obama on the glory chair, he might not be able to remember who the fuck was in his cabinet
mircea_popescu: and their families
asciilifeform: in fact, this is sorta how the 'prior art' worked.
mircea_popescu: which is really not hard to do, take everyone that was involved in any manner in the government of an european or north american country past 1940
asciilifeform: let them recommend each other. like the social network derpatrons.
mircea_popescu: you need tocome up with about 200 million names.
asciilifeform: well, depends on what's a good candidate. does the exhibit need to be pretty to look at ?
mircea_popescu: stalin managed what, ten million out of fifty ?
asciilifeform can think of plenty of good candidates for zoolag
mircea_popescu: the death of sir thomas moore, a fine example.
mircea_popescu: feeding the christians to the lions was perhaps insufficient, but nevertheless in the right vein.
asciilifeform: (or at least the spain pictured in 'homage to catalonia')
mircea_popescu: plenty of them.
chetty: usually its the socialists and their various cousins that do the 'camps' thing. Can you think of a historical time they got the bad end of that deal?
mircea_popescu: how do you say fascists in russian, except to denote not the folk that derped with hitler but the folk that dared propose the solutions to human problems are to be expected from groups rather than individuals ? and in english.
mircea_popescu: there should be a term, incidentally.