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mircea_popescu: in truth, never actually looked into this too closely.
mircea_popescu: ~everyone does this now ; im pretty sure soviets also did.
mircea_popescu: the thing with subs is that failure means failure, there's no "oh, no brakes, stopped car in ditch".
mircea_popescu: i don't think it's dead though, answers to eg !!key. mayhap something i'm fucking up syntax-wise.
mircea_popescu: nothing wrong with keeping a spare sat or radio connection. or both i guess
mircea_popescu: trinque, as it happens i was gonna do a buncha small payments, but deedb ot not answering to !!withdraw ?
mircea_popescu: but gigantgic hamster wheel in dank cellar quite the pic.
mircea_popescu: im totally gonna look into this. what's the big deal, a generator and some welding.
mircea_popescu: well, ideally paired cages, for balance. it is pretty heavy machinery...
mircea_popescu: anyway, i guess what i'm tryingto say is that if i were looking to dig among the liar set i'd be mostly trying to guide it by the charmicael set.
mircea_popescu: yeah ; more properly : there is a class of numbers that are both carmichael numbers and strong liars.
mircea_popescu: small sets of small liars are trivially produced, eg 1 , 8 , 18 , 47 , 57 , 64 are liars for 5 * 13.
mircea_popescu: in any case, to get back to the previous line : afaik all m-r liars are also carmichael numbers.
mircea_popescu: yes of numberline. definitely. but not of "x to y" interval for close x, y.
mircea_popescu: moreover, it's likely that a set of 100% consecutive liars of arbitrary length can be found.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, the problem with that 3/4 figure is that it's ~an average~ (obtained by a very trivial calculation). there's no known way to evaluate the statistical divergence over a finite set.
mircea_popescu: another piece of the puzzle is that while small numbers are ~perfect~ witnesses for up to a certain value, they become terrible witnesses thereupon, which is why small witnesses are useless in crypto
mircea_popescu: all of this is only interesting if enemy can set your witnesses, correct.
mircea_popescu: but even taking a small selection among these to produce a sieve, and then churning a bunch of composites through it, might produce some lulz.
mircea_popescu: ie, you don';t have to try "all", but do try all mutual products of all known carmichael numbers.
mircea_popescu: in more practical terms : about 1/4 of products of strong liars are also strong liars, which is another constructive direction.
mircea_popescu: packed somewhere im sure, but im not gonna proceed extracting rightnao.
mircea_popescu: dood actually lists a 400 digit number to which ~300 items are strong liars
mircea_popescu: finding the nontrivial square roots of 1 modulo n is a hard problem ; but constructing some is not. anyway, not right now in the best form to go through archives but will see to this.
mircea_popescu: i just me4ant formally, p ^ n-1 = 1 vs p ^ (n-1)/2 = +-1
mircea_popescu: there is ~some~ overlap between carmichael and m-r (eg 1729 is a pretty reliable flase witness).
mircea_popescu: the principal problem with it was that they ended up large.
mircea_popescu: ima have to dig this up, pretty sure i read up on this (very limited) mewthod of constructing m-r false witnesses for a two-primes product.
mircea_popescu: the problem's converse : construct k integers that are false witnesses for the primality of the pq product.
mircea_popescu: yes ; but by analogy i expect it's possible you have some m-r liars up to the large (4096 bit is a large number) numbers we're dealing wqith
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, there's eg ~20mn carmichael numbers under 10^20
☟︎ mircea_popescu: but also afaik, it doesn't work with "and all same size"
mircea_popescu: i dun see the problem, so it takers a minute. current gpg takes as much, and ssh which doesn't is sucja cryptojoke as to not be worth the mention.
mircea_popescu: no markings are clear in modern democracy. it's written in the constitution : everyone is to be idemnified for all things they do not read.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: grangerstranger, what do you do for a living and why are you here would be decent starting points.
mircea_popescu: it was a fleeting momentary thought! such as occurs in my box occasionally! i'm not proposing marriage over here!!1
mircea_popescu: "My friends: We really need to start talking nicer to eachother 4 minutes later: “You really are a stupid ass bitch”"
mircea_popescu: easy enough to check, on the other side. but yes, chick's a cut above the usual dickowsy.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, there's a pronstarlet the naming reminds me of.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, word. it's more a thing for something like mp-wp, which is a sort of enduser app so to speak, than something like eucrypt that's basically a library, or in any case a building block intended for use in forging.
mircea_popescu: it's started here, the wind. it'd be tornado level anywhere else, it freely moves the damned car on the highway, "what the fuck, is my direction shot what the fuck is this ?!" "just windy" "holy shit!"
mircea_popescu: well in the meanwhile stop burning so much incense on the melancholy temple. idle hands an' all that!!
mircea_popescu: this way, someone looking to test presses to both heads and voila. it has the potential to significantly improve the quality of testing done, both in the sense of total and highwater mark.
mircea_popescu: same goes for whoever else has a good testing suite for whatever they're maintaining : publishing a "devel" branch, including testing and whatever else tooling in that vein is certainly a legitimate use of forking the v tree.
mircea_popescu: billymg, if you're happy with it, one thing you could do is patch your testing suite as an alternate patch off mp-wp genesis ; this way people looking to test can just use it (and patch atop it if need be) rather than write from scratch.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: same exact youth that then go and bludgeon police into the ground. rinse, repeat, scale up, take over.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i'm sure you can get decent chunks of dubaloos directly from fiat "government" for "outreach work with disadvantaged youth".
mircea_popescu: Mocky, pepin the short was the original carolingian king of the franks. started career as exactly that, "being paid to guard the household while selling tickets to rape the wives"
mircea_popescu: yeah. but the contrary consideration's certainly sound, "let's do things in the order they can be done in, as opposed to any other."
mircea_popescu: Mocky, i'm just laying it on the table, plainly. i'm not trying to force you into nonsense.
mircea_popescu: all that's needed is the proper an' adequate supply of pippins der kurzen