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mircea_popescu: i think we're not talking of the same thing. so, i have, for the sake of argument, a 50k line bcc, which builds c and doesn't optimize. it's my bootstrapping compiler. it runs on musl, say. i fire up a pogo, put this on, and proceed to build a kernel during the next week.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform inconceivable, but this discussion is not something we can actually carry satisfactorily i guess. we'll hafta let it be.

mircea_popescu: well that's what i want to discuss, seems to me it's central to the point. what's the disconnect ?

mircea_popescu: if i come up with random "will you phf guarantee to me that if i swab her cheek on so and so date there won't be a spermatozoid in the microscope field", you'll just shrug.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what i meant is -- i buy comp hardware secondhand, almost always

phf: mircea_popescu: i think nature of bootstrapping problem is that you have to choose a bedrock that you can affect, and that bedrock falls under counterparty problem. if your bedrock is hardware, then it's foundries that you trust. if your bedrock is a "a unix" then you need to trust a large binary blob. yes you can construct a rube goldberg that gives you unix from bedrock without having trust, but we don't have anything like that

mircea_popescu: i do not.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i already do this.

ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: sterling: "i'm astonished that i will probably outlive the 'personal computer'. what would anyone want one of those for these days anyways. 'hey you, do you want a personal computer? you can...compute on it! in private! nobody would ever know!' it just doesn't sell to the touchscreen zombies, no offense to present company."

asciilifeform: but on the other hand, at some point the pain will begin to be felt, 'i want to build emacs but where do i get not only it but a box that'll build pre-poettering emacs at all, and where do i even get the gcc that still builds it'

asciilifeform: but again, has serious political problem, in my head, in that i would like x64 to DIE, not to live.

trinque: wrong machine though I gather from you, asciilifeform

asciilifeform: trinque: i've had an x64 asm scheme thing on back burner for eons.

trinque: lisp machine I mean.

mircea_popescu: i seriously don't see the problem with "i trust this pared down version of tcc - it builds a very slow blob but it does build it - and these tools which i read myself"

asciilifeform: phf: the reason why i have not attempted the contemplated exercise, nor seriously encouraged others to do so, is that you are right -- c and unix MUST die.

mircea_popescu: phf i think hes' right though. we're not going to be solving shit.

a111: Logged on 2013-07-08 13:30 mircea_popescu: just like i showed the SDRs as the exact equivalent, and people ignored it because well... they never had one so it don't exist.

mircea_popescu: derpshart this idea is an uncredited rehash of stuff i said in 2011, aka not an idea.

phf: asciilifeform: that's a bootstrapping problem though. at least at the time that i'm speaking off, it was ~expected~ that you would do a custom build of some of your packages, and they whole deploy process relied on source packages being built by not-package-author

asciilifeform: trinque: i stopped reading the 'nows' a while ago.

danielpbarron: i'm not skilled enough to know what stageN even means

danielpbarron: i have some stage3 tarball i keep reusing

phf: debian vendors, i suspect so does redhat, because they package the original source into own packages

a111: Logged on 2017-04-03 21:08 danielpbarron: asciilifeform, i was just thinking that earlier today. I want to host my own portage mirror

asciilifeform: phf: and i have found, that quite often -- they do not

danielpbarron: yeah i got my own, but feel free to tar.gz.asc it to me :D

mircea_popescu: i suspect he meant "my own selection"

danielpbarron: asciilifeform, i was just thinking that earlier today. I want to host my own portage mirror ☟︎

ben_vulpes: you asked if i ever

mircea_popescu: actually how i even got the idea.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i was thinking of much more modest item -- replacement of ' asciilifeform's gentoo ' with something replicable on demand, for eternity (vtronic repo, vtronic 'portage')

mircea_popescu: but... rather distant bridge i'm guessing.

mircea_popescu: but i confess it'd still be a great thing if i actually had a canned answer for "oh, eulora doesn't run on my system". and it'd be lovely if it'd just happen to consist of you know, $item tmsr actually wants to take over.

asciilifeform: ( not a thing i have ever personally witnessed, but new depths of vendor retardation are discovered every day )

mircea_popescu: i know i couldn't get it to the point where eg it's in the eulora wiki as "do this to run eulora"

asciilifeform: at one point i answered mircea_popescu's 'you could not replicate your workstation' challenge with the gentoo cure. but that will only work 'while supplies last', i'm not even certain when the last time was that anyone tested it

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: yeah but the impression i used to get in the past, is of cynical fraud, well aware of the sheer lunacy of the claims

asciilifeform: i remember it

mircea_popescu: i think so ya.

mircea_popescu: i credit watching "women behind bars" right before fading off for a nap earlier.

mircea_popescu: check out how close i got!

Framedragger: i didn't find it (did search).

Framedragger: i'm sure the results would match opinions of teh experts as usual

Framedragger: btw will see if i can set up complete re-scan in ~june (should be easier this time, ~all of logic was scripted and recorded)

Framedragger: dope'y. i can't see the keyboard through all this dope smoke

Framedragger: and i meant CompanionCube not mircea_popescu

Framedragger: mircea_popescu: shit i meant `!$ ssh` not getarchive, i'm forgetting myself lol.

a111: Logged on 2016-04-16 18:25 mircea_popescu: "debian world's first [albeit primitive] app store" jesus fucking christ i've never been this insulted in my life.

shinohai: Speaking of Romania ..... https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8M4ETjUwAA_i-i.jpg

asciilifeform: yeah i suspect most of the postal rape happens ~in~ usa side, adlai

asciilifeform: this doesn't necessarily mean 'molested', i suspect that most mail from usa gets opened in customs.

asciilifeform: ( they didn't bother to re-wrap the tape in the same direction i did !! lol. )

mircea_popescu: ah i must have missed it.

a111: Logged on 2017-04-03 12:48 mircea_popescu: danielpbarron how do i get stuff from your blog that's older than feb ?

mircea_popescu: the conclusion being that i'm pretty sure they no longer ~actually manufacture~ the quartz tuning forklets, but instead just produce a soup of the things and then filter the functional ones out or some such

mircea_popescu: i recall that adventure.

asciilifeform: this was a pretty serious puzzler, incidentally, for a long time i could not get the deterministic mode to work, and thought that i might have to scrap the design.

asciilifeform: btw, this is not a bad time to explain WHY i set it up so that fg remains 'sad' until BOTH rng start up

adlai: aha, i can fool it: if a module is removed while it barfs, then it keeps barfing as half-sad

Framedragger: were both of them present during power-up? i think the idea is to remove them once it's powered up. then it'd be half duty cycle SAD. (haven't tested myself yet tho)

adlai: i'm specifically thinking about the implants that require illumination, looks like this one could be trivially foiled (literally)

Framedragger: i envy the weather

shinohai: As I lamented to mircea_popescu the other day though, it is difficult to get them to see the value in Bitcoin (cam/twithos)

mircea_popescu: hm. i suspect there's something amiss with his site. anyway.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-03#1636187 << mno, i killed testnet with own hands (at that point it hadn't been of any use in some years) : http://btcbase.org/patches/asciilifeform_lets_lose_testnet ☝︎

mircea_popescu: danielpbarron how do i get stuff from your blog that's older than feb ? ☟︎

Framedragger: absolutely, question is if there's any middle ground, i mean, less extreme approaches (extreme by my standards of course)

Framedragger: i can ask but i can also defer this honourable query to mr. shinohai (i dont know her personally)

Framedragger: http://i.imgur.com/VS7GiEm.jpg

ben_vulpes: well i'd like to

asciilifeform: i can't say i ever had any interest in getting that part to work.

ben_vulpes: yeah i know

a111: Logged on 2017-04-03 03:46 ben_vulpes: i wonder if there's some proportional relationship between setup/distribution costs and size of target niches

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-03#1636163 << i only know re lulu's rates; they are flat (or rather, depend on pg count, paper type, and process - colour vs bw -- strictly) ☝︎

asciilifeform: i've nfi if it ever worked.

ben_vulpes: i wonder if there's some proportional relationship between setup/distribution costs and size of target niches ☟︎

asciilifeform: tbh oughta enjoy these 'print one copy for my desk' shops while they last. i suspect that amazon will eventually kill them.

asciilifeform: i got a nice hardcover of https://www.ada-ru.org/V-0.4w/index.html , for instance, made.

asciilifeform: (i shit thee not)

asciilifeform: i have random crapolade printed, routinely.

mircea_popescu: danielpbarron that's nice, but the whole "i quit lawyering to write full time" narrative didn't work out.

a111: Logged on 2017-04-02 22:22 mircea_popescu: i very much doubt it. the time for unsolicited manuscripts was sometime in between the summer of 90something and the autumn of the same 90something. nobody can tell you precisely when, but in any case "i made a book" is precisely the same as "i made a used condom"

a111: Logged on 2017-04-02 22:14 phf: i suspect saifedean is pitching various audiences to create a buzz for his upcoming book, because the way he opened seemed like a cold call. "normies" "bezzle this bezzle that" every phrase felt like it was lifted from a "wake up sheeple" video with that matrix soundtrack

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-02#1636098 << i could almost hear that soundtrack playing ☝︎

shinohai: I thought that was what protocol was supposed to accomplish

danielpbarron: in tucker max's defense, his are the only books i have ever purchased in "e"lectronic form. and I did get a kick out of them. But that was before I discovered trilema so who knows how they'd read to me if i tried again

phf: the incentives seem inside out. it's not "i have something to say that's not otherwise been said" it's "i'm going to say something!"

mircea_popescu: because that's what it is. writing books is exactly like playing with rv boats. "oh, you won the milwaukee regional finals in 2016 ? WOW!!11 where do i throw my panties!"

phf: i somehow doubt he spent that time reading the logs.

mircea_popescu: anyway, the whole "i write books" aspirational occupation is a macula of dumb just all of itself. i keep mentioning tucker max because he tried (and claimed to succeed) and utterly failed at the thing.

a111: Logged on 2014-11-11 08:48 saifedean: really, before you dismiss paleo, just try eliminating grains from your body for 2 weeks and see what it does to you. every single person i know who's done it has changed their life entirely.

mircea_popescu: "i want a guy who will love me for me" but in the male color scheme, as it were.

mircea_popescu: well, if by strategy you mean, attempt to adequate to the environment, i'd say none. if you mean "i am saifadean hear me roar" then sure, he's trying to matter as he is rather than as he'd matter.

phf: right, i'm trying to discern some kind of strategy that he's employing, but there might just be none

mircea_popescu: i very much doubt it. the time for unsolicited manuscripts was sometime in between the summer of 90something and the autumn of the same 90something. nobody can tell you precisely when, but in any case "i made a book" is precisely the same as "i made a used condom" ☟︎

phf: this is not the right audience for that sort of club footed approach, but i'm sure he'll get a good response on bitcointalk or whatever

phf: i suspect saifedean is pitching various audiences to create a buzz for his upcoming book, because the way he opened seemed like a cold call. "normies" "bezzle this bezzle that" every phrase felt like it was lifted from a "wake up sheeple" video with that matrix soundtrack ☟︎

mircea_popescu: o hey, good news, i udun have to do anything.

a111: Logged on 2017-04-02 07:26 diana_coman: lobbes, I'll gladly pay for the auction services in Eulora; Foxy's currently in a days-long craft so will have to wait for that to finish first though