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punkman: I'm gonna call
the form Iterated Closed-Bag Exchange, more relevant
mircea_popescu: If a 12 year-old were
to write 'I fink
that Enid Blyton iz bettern
than
that Emily Bronte bint cos she has written loads more books'
then one could reasonably excuse
the spelling as reflective of
the stupidity of
the mind
that produced
the content.
punkman: "TODO: Is
that 'no other state'
thing valid? What if a bot wants
to do some behavior only once, but when exactly it does so is randomly determined? I believe
this could require some saved information besides
the history of moves, but
this seems like a valid strategy."
punkman: " should use only static initialization variables, randomness, and past moves in order
to make a decision. No other state should be updated/saved/taken into account."
mircea_popescu: dents
to learn
this and many attended, including students who had attended a course incorporating logic programming
the previous
term. It was a battle
to get
the students
to do
this, not least because
two senior lecturers criticised
the exercise as presenting
too much of a challenge
to
the students.
mircea_popescu: After seven years of
the new regime, I had
the opportunity
to compare
the class of 1999 with
the class of 1992. In 1992 I set an course in Artificial Intelligence requiring students
to solve six exercises, including building a Prolog interpreter. In 1999, six exercises had shrunk
to one; which was a 12 line Prolog program for which eight weeks were allotted for students
to write it. A special class was laid on for stu
☟︎ mircea_popescu: not necessarily a bad
thing, unless im having a brain fart
punkman: the bots only know past moves during
the current round as it is
mircea_popescu: next
they're going
to count
the holes in
the mains socket
to get
the voltage.
mircea_popescu: how people pretending
to be in math and philosophy can be
this fucking dumb is beyond me.
mircea_popescu: and srlsly, ditch
the dumbass "total wot score" model
they use
punkman: they get bigger number when
they win
mircea_popescu: the bot
that only cares of its own history has max, and
the bot
that ignores its own has min.
mircea_popescu: a bot
that
takes a betrayal against itself as badly as a betrayal against
the world has average ego.
mircea_popescu: now, on
this information, each both has an ego, defined as
the balance between
the weight
they give
their own history vs
the collected world history
mircea_popescu: c) each bot has idem 0
to 20 of
their
type and also 0
to 5 of all
types.
mircea_popescu: b) each bot has a 0
to 20% chance of knowing how
their opponent player against each bot of
their
type
mircea_popescu: specifically : a) each bot has a 0
to 20% chance of knowing how
their opponent played against each other bot.
this is fixed for
the respective bot.
assbot: IPD_Morality/the_bots.py at master
tscizzle/IPD_Morality GitHub
punkman: if anyone wants
to describe a bot, I'll code it
Mats_cd03: mircea_popescu: forgot
the '(yet)'.
mircea_popescu: so make 400 bots, 20 of each
type, meet everyone 500
times and play for n where
the probability is .95
punkman: mircea_popescu: about
that simulation,
there are 20 bots,
they meet everyone else 5
times and play for N rounds each
time
they meet, after each round
there's a 0.995 probability
they will stop.
BingoBoingo: punkman: Yeah, it's going
to be
tricky. Wonder how much hash is going
to arrive after
the diff change
punkman: BingoBoingo: we need like 220 blocks a day for
that bet
punkman: heh "JOSS defaults
to cooperation on
the first
turn, and
thereafter mirrors its partner's previous move, except after its partner cooperates, JOSS defects with some probability
to see what it can get away with every once in a while."
mircea_popescu: Mats_cd03 5 reasons why losing 10 years' investment in iraq isn't a disaster, 5 reason why higher inflation isn't higher inflation, 5 reasons why
the failure of each and every obamapolicy isn't a failure of
the left, or of blacks, or of
the electoral system, or of
the general public,
mircea_popescu: by now
the research paper journals are little more
than blogs anyway.
assbot: Iraq, oil markets, and
the U.S. economy | Econbrowser
punkman: mircea_popescu: probably publishable as a paper if you can be bothered
to run in
that
threadmill << not a big fan of academics, but I can blag it now
assbot: Course of
Theoretical Physics - Wikipedia,
the free encyclopedia
mircea_popescu: punkman L.D.Landau and E.M.Leifshitz. all
the math one could ever want.
mthreat: There was
this romanian restaurant in Austin. It was called "Dracula".
punkman: lest
there be
two dozen recipes posted one day
punkman: I
think I should make a special feed for penguin
though
mircea_popescu: but yes,
tomatoes, definitely, and mushroom,s and artichoke hearts and anchovies and so on
mircea_popescu: anyway,
trained girlz, can make it. i care not for
the city :D
mthreat: mircea_popescu: have you managed
to find good pizza in
this
town?
Namworld: Apple stock at 100? Was
there a split or did it drop a lot? I
think it was around 500-800 not long ago.
empyex: FabianB:
Traded in last 24 hours: S.MPOE X.EUR
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OneFixt: mine is not at all easy
to dump unfortunately
mircea_popescu: ah. well we're
trying
to make a canonical version of 2012 - april 2013
Mats_cd03: i wonder how long it will
take for a decent price signal
to materialize
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves can't be large ? hm.
the hansa was very large. i believe it can be quite large.
ThickAsThieves: coindesk has
to articles about people offering bitcoin options, neither mentions mpex
assbot: BTCOracle | bitcoin binary options
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The Associated Press
chetty: I
think closed is kinda relative
tho, more like
the semi-permeable membrane
ThickAsThieves: i'm more referring
to
the
the dynamics of a closed society in an effort
to bring quality/robustness or whatever
chetty: ThickAsThieves,avg life in
the
time frame was short, if you lived very long you likely had more wisdom (which is why you lived)
ThickAsThieves: understood, i'm more pointing out
that size is a factor, as in, it being closed isn't enough, it also can't be large
mircea_popescu: "democracy" as practiced among a hundred
that know each other is no democracy anyway
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves
the smaller it gets,
the harder it is
to say
FabianB: mircea_popescu: my logs are burried in old backups on disks at a place i'm unlikely
to be at in
the next 2
to 3 weeks, so unless it's still useful by
then i'll keep
them
there