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mircea_popescu: 32 is a very simple
thing and absolutely easy
to lift and package into 52 lines of code in
the .adb file + 130 in
the .ads file so 182 all in
total1, comments and
two
types of input (string or raw array of octets) included."
mircea_popescu: to quote, \"As usual,
the forum quickly pointed me in
the right direction -
thank you ave1! - namely looking under
the hood of course, in
this case GNAT's own hood,
the Systems.CRC32 package. Still,
this package makes a whole dance of eating one single character at a
time since it is written precisely
to support
the stream monstrosity on
top rather
than
to support
the user with what
they might indeed need. Happily
though, CRC
mircea_popescu: v-tree lives
through wot and
through wot alone, it's not some kind of self contained magic.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-14 16:21 diana_coman: asciilifeform,
trouble is - what do you do
then when/if
that
tree gets reground?
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-14#1862400 << #1
thing you do, is you
TALK
TO PEOPLE!
there is no jwz way out of politics. if regrind hurts you,
tell
them not
to fucking do it ; and if
they won't listen
tell whoever will listen
to not follow
the new
thing. and so fucking on.
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2018-10-14 16:18 asciilifeform: imho 'unifiers' (i.e. patch
that pulls in specific state from a parallel
tree) is a cleaner way of accomplishing
this
than cut&paste, but i was unable
to persuade.
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-14#1862397 << because cut-and-paste was never contemplated as a possible alternative, it was read-and-rewrite. because moving from one
tree
to another is exactly
translation, one must bear in mind context and only implement ~the algo~. consider how we got crc32 -- we did NOT cut-and-paste from anywhere. diana RE WROTE IT!
☝︎ mircea_popescu: kinda
the fucking point, building yggdrasil over here.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-14 16:16 asciilifeform: diana_coman: iirc mircea_popescu in particular specifically hates libs-as-separate-trees, insists
that proggy oughta include errything it eats. ( i dun recall whether he answered why it should not also
then include
the os and compiler also in same genesis, but i'ma leave
thread alone for nao)
a111: Logged on 2018-10-14 16:13 diana_coman: I honestly don't quite see
the point of
taking crc32 out for instance
mircea_popescu: in any case,
type1 might get i dunno, later-patch-taking-advantage-of-ddram whereas
type 2 might get later-patch-needed-for-old-arms etc.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: but while
there's overlap of people contributing
to both
type 1 and
type 2 branches, it's more likely
the situation will continue unground.
mircea_popescu: IF
the groups ever diverge absolutely,
they MIGHT eventually re-genesis
the
thing, making all leaves 1...n into a unified genesis and continuing from
there.
mircea_popescu: the leaves downstream from EACH n1 needn't be identical, nor needn't be different. in effect,
the
tree now has
TWO groups of maintainers :
those who maintain
type 2
tree, for embeds, will not ===
those who maintain
type 1
tree, for general use.
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2018-10-14 16:11 diana_coman: ah, you mean
that
the only way
to do
this is
to
take crc32 out of eucrypt
tree?
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-14#1862386 << not at all!
there's
two possible ways
to implement crc32 : with lookup
tables, and with plain division.
these are mutually exclusive.
type 1 is faster, and
therefore mainline.
type 2 is smaller, and
therefore of interest in certain contexts.
therefore, at leaf=n, one has
to chose : either n+1
type 1, or else n+1
type 2.
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2018-10-14 15:55 diana_coman: as it is, it will be a .vpatch after
the lookup implementation - so linear sequence rather
than alternative; you might want
to branch
the
tree instead from *before*
the lookup implementation so
that your div version is effectively alternative branch
a111: Logged on 2018-10-14 15:08 lobbes: "castle-only" may be
the way
to go anyways; I'm not sure #trilema even needs
the auctionbot
to sit in here
phf: i don't
think i'll be able
to cut rename
tonight, and
then i'll be busy until friday,
though will
try
to steal an hour here and
there
trinque: not blocked on anything afaik, improvements
to vtools can come in as another patch for
the ebuild
tree
phf: trinque: are you waiting on delete/rename or you have your own
things
to work on?
trinque: asciilifeform: what's left is finishing ebuilding-up phf's vtools,
then release
a111: Logged on 2018-10-14 20:41
trinque: billymg: hold onto
that new ebuild for cuntoo.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-14 12:55 lobbes: and speaking of auctionbot: development is complete. At
the moment I am getting ready
to begin some prod
testing and
then all
that's left is
to write
the blog post explaining
the usage. Getting close!
a111: Logged on 2018-10-14 11:56 diana_coman: bvt, get yourself a pizarro shared account and start your blog
there precisely with
those pastes, what's keeping you?
mircea_popescu: functions
to make
this functionality available." << im not so crazy about
this approach, but hey. if it links it links.
mircea_popescu: bvt "Ada exposes no functions
that have 'exclusive open' semantics, so I imported C
☟︎ mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i possibly dun wanna drag
the nice
thing into it, but i dunno, way
too early
to optimize
this partuclar pile.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-14 07:53 diana_coman: in fact
the 3rd option
that is
the one actually
to use is having different sizes on
the
two processes (i.e. different constant simply)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not redundant because
the rsa processor is "best effort", ie, only goes if
there's spacetime in machine
mircea_popescu: in fact,
this is precisely what you're objecting
to, "why should kerosene bottle have a slightly
taller red cap, should have exact same cap as water bottle!"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
there's no such
thing as label in context.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-14 07:49 diana_coman:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-14#1862213 -> it's more
than just one if statement (although unnecessary branches in
themselves are not great anyway); basically it's
the udp code itself
that has
to be messed up
to accommodate
this particular
thing - either using generic or otherwise using
the largest of
the
two and
then filtering one level higher
mircea_popescu: there's exactly nothing similar between rsa packet and serpent packet. for
the same money could ask
to have busses and flour delivered in single container.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-14 04:30 Mocky:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-13#1862167 >> I don't see how it would necessarily be any simpler aside from one `if` statement. And
there's nothing
to stop listening on separate ports and getting all benefits asciilifeform mentions with different sizes
phf: asciilifeform: i actually forgot! i'm swamped right now, but can you remind me again in about
two weeks, i have a
thing for you from
the dig
that will help with
the little piece of silicon you have
☟︎☟︎☟︎ phf: the gift
that keeps on giving
phf: the graph appears
to be complete, and
the project also presses,
thank you for jumping
through all
the hoops!
phf: diana_coman: i've updated eucrypt
to keccak, i also added ave1's patch
there. also brought udp up
to date.
phf: i like how C 2012 standard says
that x flag works "to
the extent
that
the underlying system supports exclusivity". of course no indication when it doesn't..
phf: oh i guess i see why
that would be
tricky, because of
the specialization. i don't know enough ada yet
to know how
to fix
that... perhaps just renaming it
to
Temporary_File is sufficient
☟︎ phf: but without
the name, so you call it, and you get an open file right away, rather
than dragging around a useless name)
phf: the other
thing, and
that's somewhat of a personal preference, i
think Create_Temporary_File should either act identical
to create or be called something else. right now it clashes with ada's naming convention
phf: !Q later
tell bvt ^^
phf: bvt: your patch has "Binary files..." at
the very end of it. i assume it wasn't made with vdiff
☟︎ ben_vulpes: mod6 asciilifeform BingoBoingo:
the remaining stateside fuckgoats are packed in a specific box
that i will relocate with my person.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Found on
the return of kink guy's forum. Apparently was originally found on
twitter.
phf: we're way down
the rabbit hole here
BingoBoingo: phf: it is
the NPC meme vs
the Russian bot meme
phf: so it looks like bvt is correct,
there's no way
to make ada's Create
throw an exception if
the file already exists
☟︎ BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well, if
they wish hard enough
they don't have
to not lie
phf: i was like "wtf, kind of shit ascii accidentally pasted instead of
the real url" :p
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I have come around
to
thinking of
the process
that leads
to
this "wished helplessness"
a111: Logged on 2018-10-10 01:22 asciilifeform:
https://archive.is/ltRHd << per same, of
the 4 public noadez in BingoBoingostan, 3 are in pizarro
phf: i wonder what sort of
technology
those heathen node walkers use, i.e. if it's a patched up bitcoin client, or if
they have own protocol parsers. seems like
too much serious know how for
the later
phf: yeah, i wrote a small subset of bitcoin protocol in lisp, but rolled my own binary
types. i
think i can ask for version, and i can also ask for peers, and i started on getblock functionality..